fire219 wrote:
jji7skyline wrote:
fire219 wrote:
True, hyperthreading is not important unless your programs can efficiently use 4+ cores. But an i5 will not outperform an i7, unless you have a low capacity PSW. An i7 has more improvements over an i5 than just hyperthreading. It also has more cache, and usually higher clock speeds.You get a higher clock speed with i5 than with i7 for the same price. That's why many people get a i5 when they build computers, and a reason why it's so popular.
Same with cache, you can get more cache on i5 than on i7 for the same price. If you're a gamer, you're going to need a 1GB graphics at least, and possibly a Full HD monitor.
BTW: You're almost certainly not going to be able to fit 8GB of ram on there. Whatever it comes with as standard should be enough though.Higher clock speeds for same, maybe. Cache, no. For example....
1Lets pit the most common high end consumer version of each against each other: the 2500K (i5) and the 2600K (i7). The 2600 has 8MB of cache. The 2500 has only 6MB. The 2600 runs at 3.4Ghz, the 2500 at 3.3Ghz. i7 wins.
The 2550K is the highest end i5 available, and its only difference from the 2500 is an extra 100Mhz on the clock speed. There isn't an i7 in the same price range as the i5s at this time (the Clarkdales are even more expensive, before you say that). Your argument is invalid.
Oh, and the reason the i5 is more popular is because it is cheaper and therefore better for non-hardcore gamers, not because it has higher performance.
Maybe for higher end cpus, but not for lower end ones
(From what the OP said, the guy might be on quite a tight budget )
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jji7skyline wrote:
fire219 wrote:
jji7skyline wrote:
You get a higher clock speed with i5 than with i7 for the same price. That's why many people get a i5 when they build computers, and a reason why it's so popular.
Same with cache, you can get more cache on i5 than on i7 for the same price. If you're a gamer, you're going to need a 1GB graphics at least, and possibly a Full HD monitor.
BTW: You're almost certainly not going to be able to fit 8GB of ram on there. Whatever it comes with as standard should be enough though.Higher clock speeds for same, maybe. Cache, no. For example....
1Lets pit the most common high end consumer version of each against each other: the 2500K (i5) and the 2600K (i7). The 2600 has 8MB of cache. The 2500 has only 6MB. The 2600 runs at 3.4Ghz, the 2500 at 3.3Ghz. i7 wins.
The 2550K is the highest end i5 available, and its only difference from the 2500 is an extra 100Mhz on the clock speed. There isn't an i7 in the same price range as the i5s at this time (the Clarkdales are even more expensive, before you say that). Your argument is invalid.
Oh, and the reason the i5 is more popular is because it is cheaper and therefore better for non-hardcore gamers, not because it has higher performance.Maybe for higher end cpus, but not for lower end ones
(From what the OP said, the guy might be on quite a tight budget )
maxskywalker wrote:
Why do you want a Mac OS? Windows 7 is SOOO much better. The OS has actually frozen, crashed, and done everything that OS's shouldn't do. Plus it makes the fans go crazy (as in the heating). Also, the way they handle wi-fi can cause serious problems. And Flash movies are harder on their battery than on other computers (And No Comments On How Flash Is 'Dead").
Windows 7? To be honest, I have it dualbooting on my iMac and it is good. Good is relative to Vista and XP of course
It's still frozen many times where OSX hasn't
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I wouldnt get iatkos.
I would download iBoot from Tonymacx86 and buy a retail OS X lion disc from the apple store.
(Yes, they do retail discs too.)
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elfin8er wrote:
So, I'm thinking 'bout making my own Hackintosh. I've been wanting to make one for a long time, but my only problem is I don't know if I would be experienced enough to make it. I've done some simple things, like put wifi adapters in and things like that, but it sounds I'd have to change my video card, and motherboard.
So, if you guys think it'd be easy enough for me to do it, then my budget is around 2-4 hundred dollars. That's why I don't want to buy a mac, because of my budget. I was thinking of getting a really really cheap poopy computer from off of amazon for under 100 dollars, and then just replacing the processor, and kicking up the ram, as well as getting a external hard drive. I found this piece of poop for only around 56 bucks. (Footnote 1) Now, I need to know what kind of ram I'd need. I don't need a ton, as I probably wont be able to use if for gaming (Unless I can trick it out for gaming), so I was thinking around 8 would be good. My only problem, is that I don't know how many slots the computer has for ram, and I don't know if I'd be able to install 8 gigs on this thing. I'd probably need something else, to give myself more ram. I found 8 gigs on amazon for around 40 bucks. (Footnote 2) That brings me to just under 100 bucks. Next, I'd need a mother board, and a processor. The two things that'll probably cost the most, and then I'd need a video card, and an external hard drive. I heard that hard drives can cost a lot too. I have no clue what kind of mother board Id need, so I went over to Life Hacker, where they had a tutorial on how to make one, and they used a ASUS P7P55D-E Pro ATX Intel Motherboard. (Footnote 3) All together that brings me to around 200 bucks. For the video card, I saw a EVGA GeForce 9500 GT 01G-P3-N959-TR Video Card for 50 bucks, again on amazon (Footnote 4). I guess this'll work. Now for the processor. This is the one that'll probably break the bank. They said to use an Intel Core i7-860 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor. (Footnote 5) I was thinking I'd probably need an i5, or an i7. I guess I was sort of right. Anyway, I was right. This is the one that'll break the bank. I found one for 190 bucks. I could almost buy four of the 50 buck computer I found. That brings me to around 380. This is a bit more then I was thinking, but I may be able to still get under 400 bucks. All I need now is an external hard drive. I found a 250 gig hard drive that would probably get the work done. I'd probably upgrade at some point, but it was only 60 bucks. That brings me a little over budget, but it's still a lot cheaper then getting a mac. So, I decided that I'm NOT going to do it, and I'm just going to stick with windows for now. What do you guys think? IS there anything I could have done better to get under budget? Should I still try it? Should I just buy a mac? Should I stick to windows, and maybe get some alienware? (I'm a gamer). Tell me what you think.
Footnotes
1. http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Refurbished-Computer-Desktop-2-4Ghz/dp/B003EH2HKW/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329237393&sr=1-7
2. http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technology-Modules-KHX1600C9D3K2-8GX/dp/B0037TO5C0/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329237727&sr=1-10
3. http://www.amazon.com/Socket-CrossFireX-Motherboard-P7P55-LX/dp/B002TM7JVA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329238026&sr=1-1
4. http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Express-Graphics-01G-P3-N959-TR/dp/B001ENI3C4/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329238195&sr=1-1
5. http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-Processor-LGA1156-I5-750BOX/dp/B002KQ5KDY/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329238303&sr=1-3
I think you've been reading too many LifeHacker articles. (Yes, I look at them too )
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