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#1 2012-02-14 12:00:21

elfin8er
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Building a Hackintosh

So, I'm thinking 'bout making my own Hackintosh. I've been wanting to make one for a long time, but my only problem is I don't know if I would be experienced enough to make it. I've done some simple things, like put wifi adapters in and things like that, but it sounds I'd have to change my video card, and motherboard.

So, if you guys think it'd be easy enough for me to do it, then my budget is around 2-4 hundred dollars. That's why I don't want to buy a mac, because of my budget. I was thinking of getting a really really cheap poopy computer from off of amazon for under 100 dollars, and then just replacing the processor, and kicking up the ram, as well as getting a external hard drive. I found this piece of poop for only around 56 bucks. (Footnote 1) Now, I need to know what kind of ram I'd need. I don't need a ton, as I probably wont be able to use if for gaming (Unless I can trick it out for gaming), so I was thinking around 8 would be good. My only problem, is that I don't know how many slots the computer has for ram, and I don't know if I'd be able to install 8 gigs on this thing. I'd probably need something else, to give myself more ram. I found 8 gigs on amazon for around 40 bucks. (Footnote 2) That brings me to just under 100 bucks. Next, I'd need a mother board, and a processor. The two things that'll probably cost the most, and then I'd need a video card, and an external hard drive. I heard that hard drives can cost a lot too. I have no clue what kind of mother board Id need, so I went over to Life Hacker, where they had a tutorial on how to make one, and they used a ASUS P7P55D-E Pro ATX Intel Motherboard. (Footnote 3) All together that brings me to around 200 bucks. For the video card, I saw a EVGA GeForce 9500 GT 01G-P3-N959-TR Video Card for 50 bucks, again on amazon (Footnote 4). I guess this'll work. Now for the processor. This is the one that'll probably break the bank. They said to use an Intel Core i7-860 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor. (Footnote 5) I was thinking I'd probably need an i5, or an i7. I guess I was sort of right. Anyway, I was right. This is the one that'll break the bank. I found one for 190 bucks. I could almost buy four of the 50 buck computer I found. That brings me to around 380. This is a bit more then I was thinking, but I may be able to still get under 400 bucks. All I need now is an external hard drive. I found a 250 gig hard drive that would probably get the work done. I'd probably upgrade at some point, but it was only 60 bucks. That brings me a little over budget, but it's still a lot cheaper then getting a mac. So, I decided that I'm NOT going to do it, and I'm just going to stick with windows for now. What do you guys think? IS there anything I could have done better to get under budget? Should I still try it? Should I just buy a mac? Should I stick to windows, and maybe get some alienware? (I'm a gamer). Tell me what you think.






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1. http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Refurbished-Computer-Desktop-2-4Ghz/dp/B003EH2HKW/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329237393&sr=1-7

2. http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technology-Modules-KHX1600C9D3K2-8GX/dp/B0037TO5C0/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329237727&sr=1-10

3. http://www.amazon.com/Socket-CrossFireX-Motherboard-P7P55-LX/dp/B002TM7JVA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329238026&sr=1-1

4. http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Express-Graphics-01G-P3-N959-TR/dp/B001ENI3C4/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329238195&sr=1-1

5. http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-Processor-LGA1156-I5-750BOX/dp/B002KQ5KDY/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329238303&sr=1-3


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#2 2012-02-14 12:01:37

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

Hackintosh?


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#3 2012-02-14 12:03:48

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

slinger wrote:

Hackintosh?

I found this definition with a quick search on the internet.

the internet wrote:

a collaborative “hacking” project to run the Mac OS X computer operating system on non-Apple personal computers with x86 architecture and x86-64 compatible processors. The effort started soon after the June 2005 Worldwide Developers Conference announcement that Apple would be transitioning their personal computers from PowerPC to Intel microprocessors.


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#4 2012-02-14 12:04:15

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

Ok, cool enough  smile


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#5 2012-02-14 12:07:35

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

The other thing I was thinking, is using my ubuntu computer, installing mac4lin, and then finding some kind of program like winehq for that let's users run macosx programs. It still wouldn't be a true mac though. Lastly, I was thinking of just trying to use one of my already existing computer, and finding a mac os x iso, and booting my computer off of that. I can't seem to find an iso for it though. Also, I don't know if my computer could handle it, as I don't know what is needed to run mac os x on another computer.


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#6 2012-02-14 12:11:12

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

That's cool, IDK if there is one for mac ox.


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#7 2012-02-14 12:12:30

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

Buy the Footnote 5 thing and save up so that when its finished you have the better quality one instead of the regular piece of *.


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#8 2012-02-14 12:29:17

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

Hack in to sh?


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#9 2012-02-14 12:34:57

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

WindowsExplorer wrote:

Hack in to sh?

Are you asking what it is? I found this definition with a quick search on the internet.

the internet wrote:

a collaborative “hacking” project to run the Mac OS X computer operating system on non-Apple personal computers with x86 architecture and x86-64 compatible processors. The effort started soon after the June 2005 Worldwide Developers Conference announcement that Apple would be transitioning their personal computers from PowerPC to Intel microprocessors.


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#10 2012-02-14 12:36:13

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

elfin8er wrote:

WindowsExplorer wrote:

Hack in to sh?

Are you asking what it is? I found this definition with a quick search on the internet.

the internet wrote:

a collaborative “hacking” project to run the Mac OS X computer operating system on non-Apple personal computers with x86 architecture and x86-64 compatible processors. The effort started soon after the June 2005 Worldwide Developers Conference announcement that Apple would be transitioning their personal computers from PowerPC to Intel microprocessors.

Not really, just sounds funny when you say it like that.


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#11 2012-02-14 13:47:55

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

WindowsExplorer wrote:

elfin8er wrote:

WindowsExplorer wrote:

Hack in to sh?

Are you asking what it is? I found this definition with a quick search on the internet.

the internet wrote:

a collaborative “hacking” project to run the Mac OS X computer operating system on non-Apple personal computers with x86 architecture and x86-64 compatible processors. The effort started soon after the June 2005 Worldwide Developers Conference announcement that Apple would be transitioning their personal computers from PowerPC to Intel microprocessors.

Not really, just sounds funny when you say it like that.

Oh. lol!


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#12 2012-02-14 17:34:36

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

I don't see why you would want to ruin perfectly good hardware with OS X, but ok..... here's a few things to keep in mind:

1: Unless you are going to do serious gaming (like Crysis 1), you don't need 8GB of RAM. You could get away with 6 or 4GB.

2: The Geforce 9xxx series is about 3 years old, which is alot for technology. Go for a Geforce 4xx or 5xx, or Radeon HD 5xxx or 6xxx for ATI/AMD cards.

3: The i# series processors with a 3-digit model number (like your i7 860) are last-generation ("Clarkdale" architecture). You can get a current-gen ("Sandy Bridge") for the same amount of money, or even less (Clarkdales aren't made anymore, so the prices are going up a little), and get better performance.

4: It isn't easy to upgrade a really old PC. They will likely use discontinued and obsolete standards (like AGP slots and DDR1 RAM) that you can't get decent parts for. Go for a modern budget PC for about $300-$600, and work from there. Will cost more, but you can't fit an i7 in a Pentium 4 machine.  wink

5: Do NOT get an Alienware! They are overpriced, and come with tons of bloatware, which slow them down to budget PC speeds! You are way better off building your own PC, or at least getting a brand known for high-performance PCs with competitive prices (like HP or Acer).

Hope this helps, no matter if you put Windows or OS X on it.  smile


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#13 2012-02-14 17:58:42

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

If it's really old, it won't have any room for more RAM (it might only have one slot or something), so you should check.


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#14 2012-02-14 18:20:07

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

Ew. Why do you want a Mac in the first place?

I mean, sure, it's a bit easier to use than Windows, but you can't do much with it.


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#15 2012-02-14 18:21:12

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

Hackintosh! I've always wanted to make one of these!  big_smile  I'm your man.

First of all, Get an i5 instead of an i7, as hyperthreading is not totally important, and you'll get better performance on an i5.


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#16 2012-02-14 19:01:18

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

jji7skyline wrote:

Hackintosh! I've always wanted to make one of these!  big_smile  I'm your man.

First of all, Get an i5 instead of an i7, as hyperthreading is not totally important, and you'll get better performance on an i5.

True, hyperthreading is not important unless your programs can efficiently use 4+ cores. But an i5 will not outperform an i7, unless you have a low capacity PSW. An i7 has more improvements over an i5 than just hyperthreading. It also has more cache, and usually higher clock speeds.


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#17 2012-02-14 20:59:26

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

Yeah, maybe this is too advanced for me  tongue  You guys are talking gibberish to me  tongue  I sorta get bits here and there, but not much  tongue


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#18 2012-02-14 21:13:17

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

elfin8er wrote:

Yeah, maybe this is too advanced for me  tongue  You guys are talking gibberish to me  tongue  I sorta get bits here and there, but not much  tongue

perhaps then you shouldnt make one
if you dont understand it


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#19 2012-02-14 23:31:31

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

I've built one too, and depending on the specs, it can actually run very fast and very well. I can post my specs if you want.
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#20 2012-02-14 23:45:05

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

fire219 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

Hackintosh! I've always wanted to make one of these!  big_smile  I'm your man.

First of all, Get an i5 instead of an i7, as hyperthreading is not totally important, and you'll get better performance on an i5.

True, hyperthreading is not important unless your programs can efficiently use 4+ cores. But an i5 will not outperform an i7, unless you have a low capacity PSW. An i7 has more improvements over an i5 than just hyperthreading. It also has more cache, and usually higher clock speeds.

You get a higher clock speed with i5 than with i7 for the same price. That's why many people get a i5 when they build computers, and a reason why it's so popular.

Same with cache, you can get more cache on i5 than on i7 for the same price. If you're a gamer, you're going to need a 1GB graphics at least, and possibly a Full HD monitor.

BTW: You're almost certainly not going to be able to fit 8GB of ram on there. Whatever it comes with as standard should be enough though.


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#21 2012-02-15 15:35:37

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

Ask Harakou, he's good with installing computer parts.

/inb4he comes to brag about his brony computer of epicness


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#22 2012-02-15 15:51:57

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

jji7skyline wrote:

fire219 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

Hackintosh! I've always wanted to make one of these!  big_smile  I'm your man.

First of all, Get an i5 instead of an i7, as hyperthreading is not totally important, and you'll get better performance on an i5.

True, hyperthreading is not important unless your programs can efficiently use 4+ cores. But an i5 will not outperform an i7, unless you have a low capacity PSW. An i7 has more improvements over an i5 than just hyperthreading. It also has more cache, and usually higher clock speeds.

You get a higher clock speed with i5 than with i7 for the same price. That's why many people get a i5 when they build computers, and a reason why it's so popular.

Same with cache, you can get more cache on i5 than on i7 for the same price. If you're a gamer, you're going to need a 1GB graphics at least, and possibly a Full HD monitor.

BTW: You're almost certainly not going to be able to fit 8GB of ram on there. Whatever it comes with as standard should be enough though.

Where did that piece of *y information come from?  an i7 has higher clock speeds than an i5.  -_-


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#23 2012-02-15 16:56:30

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

jji7skyline wrote:

fire219 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

Hackintosh! I've always wanted to make one of these!  big_smile  I'm your man.

First of all, Get an i5 instead of an i7, as hyperthreading is not totally important, and you'll get better performance on an i5.

True, hyperthreading is not important unless your programs can efficiently use 4+ cores. But an i5 will not outperform an i7, unless you have a low capacity PSW. An i7 has more improvements over an i5 than just hyperthreading. It also has more cache, and usually higher clock speeds.

You get a higher clock speed with i5 than with i7 for the same price. That's why many people get a i5 when they build computers, and a reason why it's so popular.

Same with cache, you can get more cache on i5 than on i7 for the same price. If you're a gamer, you're going to need a 1GB graphics at least, and possibly a Full HD monitor.

BTW: You're almost certainly not going to be able to fit 8GB of ram on there. Whatever it comes with as standard should be enough though.

Higher clock speeds for same, maybe. Cache, no. For example....

1Lets pit the most common high end consumer version of each against each other: the 2500K (i5) and the 2600K (i7). The 2600 has 8MB of cache. The 2500 has only 6MB. The 2600 runs at 3.4Ghz, the 2500 at 3.3Ghz. i7 wins.

The 2550K is the highest end i5 available, and its only difference from the 2500 is an extra 100Mhz on the clock speed. There isn't an i7 in the same price range as the i5s at this time (the Clarkdales are even more expensive, before you say that). Your argument is invalid.

Oh, and the reason the i5 is more popular is because it is cheaper and therefore better for non-hardcore gamers, not because it has higher performance.  wink


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#24 2012-02-15 20:36:58

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

When I first saw this post, I thought you were going to make a program to hack things.  tongue

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#25 2012-02-16 15:04:49

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Re: Building a Hackintosh

Why do you want a Mac OS?  Windows 7 is SOOO much better.  The OS has actually frozen, crashed, and done everything that OS's shouldn't do.  Plus it makes the fans go crazy (as in the heating).  Also, the way they handle wi-fi can cause serious problems.  And Flash movies are harder on their battery than on other computers (And No Comments On How Flash Is 'Dead").

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