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#1 2012-02-09 12:39:43

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Panther to mac/linux app

can someone make one?

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#2 2012-02-09 13:21:38

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Re: Panther to mac/linux app

Magnie wrote a ubuntu tutorial here on the Panther site. I don't know if it's any use though. As far as I know it will work or be similar to commands for any unix based system. Are you thinking about using Panther with the Raspberry Pi? I sure am!

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#3 2012-02-09 13:38:18

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Re: Panther to mac/linux app

sparks wrote:

Magnie wrote a ubuntu tutorial here on the Panther site. I don't know if it's any use though. As far as I know it will work or be similar to commands for any unix based system. Are you thinking about using Panther with the Raspberry Pi? I sure am!

I meant panther project

there is a simpler way to use panther on other OS'S
mac - double-click the panther image file
if it comes up with "select a application" choose scratch


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#4 2012-02-09 13:41:58

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Re: Panther to mac/linux app

OI sparks - did you make panther?
if you did can you help with this?
http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=89076

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#5 2012-02-09 13:55:17

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Re: Panther to mac/linux app

I am one of the Panther Developers but I'm not a heavy smalltalker so can't help much there I'm afraid  hmm


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#6 2012-02-09 13:58:55

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Re: Panther to mac/linux app

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#7 2012-02-09 14:13:18

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Re: Panther to mac/linux app

You have to compile the project into Squeak, then Squeak into Small Talk, then Small Talk into whatever language it's coded in, all the way down to actual binary format before you have an actual "exe" for Unix. Mac is probably simpler and you can probably just bundle the project into a single file (.app possibly) and then run it.

There was some topic that you could bundle projects into .jar format, which you can just double-click and it'll run as long as you have Java installed.

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#8 2012-02-09 14:53:44

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Re: Panther to mac/linux app

complicated  sad

how do you do that?  tongue


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#9 2012-02-09 19:49:58

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Re: Panther to mac/linux app

muppetds wrote:

complicated  sad

how do you do that?  tongue

I'm not sure, I've never used it.

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#10 2012-02-10 00:14:05

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Re: Panther to mac/linux app

Magnie wrote:

You have to compile the project into Squeak, then Squeak into Small Talk, then Small Talk into whatever language it's coded in, all the way down to actual binary format before you have an actual "exe" for Unix. Mac is probably simpler and you can probably just bundle the project into a single file (.app possibly) and then run it.

There was some topic that you could bundle projects into .jar format, which you can just double-click and it'll run as long as you have Java installed.

Unix doesn't use exe programs.


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#11 2012-02-10 00:39:35

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Re: Panther to mac/linux app

nathanprocks wrote:

Magnie wrote:

You have to compile the project into Squeak, then Squeak into Small Talk, then Small Talk into whatever language it's coded in, all the way down to actual binary format before you have an actual "exe" for Unix. Mac is probably simpler and you can probably just bundle the project into a single file (.app possibly) and then run it.

There was some topic that you could bundle projects into .jar format, which you can just double-click and it'll run as long as you have Java installed.

Unix doesn't use exe programs.

Unix uses "executable" programs, you chmod +x to the files to turn them into "exes". There are binary programs for Unix which technically are "exes" in that sense.

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#12 2012-02-12 09:19:51

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Re: Panther to mac/linux app

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#13 2012-02-12 11:06:14

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Re: Panther to mac/linux app

Well, if someone can give me the squeak .image file for compiled Panther2EXE projects, I can make a (complicated) way to compile panther to mac using the BYOB compiler.


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#14 2012-02-12 12:52:28

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Re: Panther to mac/linux app

you mean the panther2exe image?


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#15 2012-02-12 12:57:28

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Re: Panther to mac/linux app

muppetds wrote:

you mean the panther2exe image?

yeah. Kind of. The image that opens up when you open a compiled panther project.


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#16 2012-02-12 13:03:44

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Re: Panther to mac/linux app

zippynk wrote:

muppetds wrote:

you mean the panther2exe image?

yeah. Kind of. The image that opens up when you open a compiled panther project.

confused

can  you explain a lot simply


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#17 2012-02-12 16:30:33

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Re: Panther to mac/linux app

Magnie wrote:

You have to compile the project into Squeak, then Squeak into Small Talk, then Small Talk into whatever language it's coded in, all the way down to actual binary format before you have an actual "exe" for Unix. Mac is probably simpler and you can probably just bundle the project into a single file (.app possibly) and then run it.

There was some topic that you could bundle projects into .jar format, which you can just double-click and it'll run as long as you have Java installed.

Let me just say, I didn't help develop Panther, but I really want to help out with this ever since I tried out the mod.
     I wanted to mention that for Macs, if you place a '.app' extension you will have to run the newly compiled application on Macintosh OS 9 Classic, which needs a specialized system folder to run(run-on sentence).
     Anyway, my Squeak Small Talking ability is incredibly weak, and ten-year-olds don't go around asking their school principals for a specialized after school program. My point is that not every one can use Squeak, (for me it wouldn't matter because it won't even download correctly on my computer) so I was thinking that it'd be a good idea to create some responsibilities for the programming of Panther and other Scratch modifications. You know, Graphics Design, Website Maintainence, that kind of thing.
     About the '.jar' theory, Java Applets malfunction easily on older versions of Macintosh computers, so a piece of advice: install the most updated version of Java possible for your operating system as you can!! Trust me, I've learned the hard way.'

Just an idea. : )


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#18 2012-02-13 03:01:35

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Re: Panther to mac/linux app

ArtyArtArt679234 wrote:

Magnie wrote:

You have to compile the project into Squeak, then Squeak into Small Talk, then Small Talk into whatever language it's coded in, all the way down to actual binary format before you have an actual "exe" for Unix. Mac is probably simpler and you can probably just bundle the project into a single file (.app possibly) and then run it.

There was some topic that you could bundle projects into .jar format, which you can just double-click and it'll run as long as you have Java installed.

Let me just say, I didn't help develop Panther, but I really want to help out with this ever since I tried out the mod.
     I wanted to mention that for Macs, if you place a '.app' extension you will have to run the newly compiled application on Macintosh OS 9 Classic, which needs a specialized system folder to run(run-on sentence).
     Anyway, my Squeak Small Talking ability is incredibly weak, and ten-year-olds don't go around asking their school principals for a specialized after school program. My point is that not every one can use Squeak, (for me it wouldn't matter because it won't even download correctly on my computer) so I was thinking that it'd be a good idea to create some responsibilities for the programming of Panther and other Scratch modifications. You know, Graphics Design, Website Maintainence, that kind of thing.
     About the '.jar' theory, Java Applets malfunction easily on older versions of Macintosh computers, so a piece of advice: install the most updated version of Java possible for your operating system as you can!! Trust me, I've learned the hard way.'

Just an idea. : )

@ magnie that topic is sb to jar


@ Arty go to bugs and glitches (i believe thats whats its called nowadays)


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