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#26 2012-02-08 19:40:55

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Re: Aspiring Authors- WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

Whoa nice.  big_smile

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#27 2012-02-08 19:44:54

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Re: Aspiring Authors- WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

bananaman114 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

So here are a couple of rules that you should try to follow when you're writing to make your writing even better  yikes

Correct spelling is essentail

O_o

that was intentional if you didn't notice

@wicki

i said terribo, though
not bad

No I didn't, it's just ironic  tongue


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#28 2012-02-08 19:45:50

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Re: Aspiring Authors- WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

jji7skyline wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:


O_o

that was intentional if you didn't notice

@wicki

i said terribo, though
not bad

No I didn't, it's just ironic  tongue

It's not ironic if he says that it was intentional like six lines later :I


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#29 2012-02-08 19:49:30

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Re: Aspiring Authors- WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

veggieman001 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:


that was intentional if you didn't notice

@wicki

i said terribo, though
not bad

No I didn't, it's just ironic  tongue

It's not ironic if he says that it was intentional like six lines later :I

Still.... so ironic  lol

The irony was intentional?  yikes


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#30 2012-02-08 19:54:31

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Wickimen wrote:

Actually terribo fanfics are more like this

[insert terrible opening such as] Hi my name is Annalissa Rosalina Castleway [or some other ridiculously pompous/long name] but you can call me Lissy because I hate being called the samething [insert some spelling phails] as my mom who is also Annalissa Rosalina [subtlety fail]. I have golden white hair, dyed purple at the tips, that fans out behind me in the wind and bright emerald green eyes with little flecks of golden blue in them [or some other ridiculously described and horribly irrealistic personal appearance]. Today I was wearing [randomly switch past/present/future tense] a rose pink t-shirt with silvery stripes and dark blue skinny jeans I purchased at Hollister [stupid description of popular clothes]. My family is poor and we don’t have alot [spelling phail] of money [unrelated statement that makes no sense with the previously described kind of clothes the character is wearing, and is also an infodump], because we are a big family there’s [grammer failing] Bennie, Jack, Greg, Sue [everyone else has very short un-thought-out names, grammer failing].

Basically, with the description, you've got my neighbor. She's either 11 or 12, she's got white hair with purple streaks down it... (currently, although she literally dyes it something new EVERY DAY.) :0


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#31 2012-02-08 19:55:54

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Re: Aspiring Authors- WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

jji7skyline wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:


No I didn't, it's just ironic  tongue

It's not ironic if he says that it was intentional like six lines later :I

Still.... so ironic  lol

The irony was intentional?  yikes

Yeah....he's said that like 5 times now.

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#32 2012-02-08 20:03:47

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Re: Aspiring Authors- WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

jji7skyline wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:


No I didn't, it's just ironic  tongue

It's not ironic if he says that it was intentional like six lines later :I

Still.... so ironic  lol

The irony was intentional?  yikes

yes


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#33 2012-02-08 20:56:30

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Plenty of authors do not plan out their stories and characters beforehand.  Please do not state that how you did.  It's more like, "some plan out stories, others don't. Whatever works best for you."


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#34 2012-02-08 21:26:12

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Re: Aspiring Authors- WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

aren't people just supposed to learn this in school not read a guide to it


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#35 2012-02-08 21:57:53

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Re: Aspiring Authors- WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

PlutoIsHades wrote:

Plenty of authors do not plan out their stories and characters beforehand.  Please do not state that how you did.  It's more like, "some plan out stories, others don't. Whatever works best for you."

I've never known an effetive author who didn't know at least a little of where their story was going as they wrote it

but at your request, my leige


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#36 2012-02-08 22:43:23

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Re: Aspiring Authors- WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

Great guide... wink
I usually don't plan my stories out though. I just create some random characters, put them in a random place and see where that leads to.


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#37 2012-02-08 22:50:04

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ProgramCAT wrote:

Great guide... wink
I usually don't plan my stories out though. I just create some random characters, put them in a random place and see where that leads to.

That works, but the plot tends to uh

get better if you plan it out

i did that once and i ended up with 60 pages of uh
weirdness
but it was really bad weirdness so i threw it out

and yeah you don't have to plan out your stories but i reccomend it  yikes


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#38 2012-02-09 05:33:35

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Re: Aspiring Authors- WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

bananaman114 wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

Plenty of authors do not plan out their stories and characters beforehand.  Please do not state that how you did.  It's more like, "some plan out stories, others don't. Whatever works best for you."

I've never known an effetive author who didn't know at least a little of where their story was going as they wrote it

but at your request, my leige

That's not what you said.  You said to plan out your story entirely.  For many people(me included), that doesn't work.  Read a book about writing and you'll see what I'm talking about.


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#39 2012-02-09 08:35:39

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Re: Aspiring Authors- WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

PlutoIsHades wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

Plenty of authors do not plan out their stories and characters beforehand.  Please do not state that how you did.  It's more like, "some plan out stories, others don't. Whatever works best for you."

I've never known an effetive author who didn't know at least a little of where their story was going as they wrote it

but at your request, my leige

That's not what you said.  You said to plan out your story entirely.  For many people(me included), that doesn't work.  Read a book about writing and you'll see what I'm talking about.

It is probably a good idea. But you can change it if you need to, along the way.
Its just a base, which is good so you don't get offtrack.  wink

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#40 2012-02-09 15:42:30

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Re: Aspiring Authors- WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

ProgrammingFreak wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:


I've never known an effetive author who didn't know at least a little of where their story was going as they wrote it

but at your request, my leige

That's not what you said.  You said to plan out your story entirely.  For many people(me included), that doesn't work.  Read a book about writing and you'll see what I'm talking about.

It is probably a good idea. But you can change it if you need to, along the way.
Its just a base, which is good so you don't get offtrack.  wink

that's what i meant

my story so far has gone through five or so different endings!


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#41 2012-02-09 16:31:14

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Re: Aspiring Authors- WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

ProgrammingFreak wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:


I've never known an effetive author who didn't know at least a little of where their story was going as they wrote it

but at your request, my leige

That's not what you said.  You said to plan out your story entirely.  For many people(me included), that doesn't work.  Read a book about writing and you'll see what I'm talking about.

It is probably a good idea. But you can change it if you need to, along the way.
Its just a base, which is good so you don't get offtrack.  wink

Personally, I will come up with several possible scenes or ideas, but never the full story.  I just come up with it as I go along, for the most part.  It is honestly however you write best.


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#42 2012-02-09 17:30:05

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Re: Aspiring Authors- WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

PlutoIsHades wrote:

ProgrammingFreak wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

That's not what you said.  You said to plan out your story entirely.  For many people(me included), that doesn't work.  Read a book about writing and you'll see what I'm talking about.

It is probably a good idea. But you can change it if you need to, along the way.
Its just a base, which is good so you don't get offtrack.  wink

Personally, I will come up with several possible scenes or ideas, but never the full story.  I just come up with it as I go along, for the most part.  It is honestly however you write best.

but do the scenes have an order to them?


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#43 2012-02-09 17:33:15

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Re: Aspiring Authors- WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

+W
(even better than an A!)


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#44 2012-02-09 17:38:59

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GLaDOS2 wrote:

+W
(even better than an A!)

according to logic it would be far far worse then an A


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#45 2012-02-09 17:48:24

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Re: Aspiring Authors- WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

bananaman114 wrote:

GLaDOS2 wrote:

+W
(even better than an A!)

according to logic it would be far far worse then an A

Turn it upside down - M
IT'S 2 A's... um... oh.

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#46 2012-02-09 17:54:19

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Re: Aspiring Authors- WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

bananaman114 wrote:

So here are a couple of rules that you should try to follow when you're writing to make your writing even better  yikes

Correct spelling is essentail
Don't use, unnecessary commas
About them sentence fragments
Avoid cliches like the plague
Don't use no double negatives


ok those were essentially jokes but still follow them
also i can't write anything that isn't fiction that doesn't suck

so uh

PLOT

Ok so if you want to write something good then you have to make sure you have a good plot
this is by far the hardest part!
so you think and you think
not just what you want your story to be about
but you plan the entire story through
sometimes it helps if you write it down unless you wnat to commit it to memory
then you go back
and see if you can make the plot any better
and
avoid cliche like MAD here
if it's been in other books people don't usually want to read about it
for example uh
a brave adventurer goes on a journey to rescue the lost princess
mega cliche!
but uh say
a young girl is trapped in an underground city, and the secrets of the city unravel as she travels to get out, and she finds a secret that could save her own world

that's ok
but then you have to add more
so add characters
fully plan it out
and then you're about done in that respect
I'd like to add that uh apperently many authors don't plan out their stories so uh whatever works best for you

ok so i wrote something with a couple of characters and i had no idea what i was going to do with them but then it came out alright
wrote it a lot faster


POST MODERNISM

this is a kind of neat little trick that i started using a while ago and i find it really works
you've probably seen it in a movie

so what you do is you start in the middle of a scene, instead of the beginning
so like instead of;
"elise got out of bed early this morning, for her mother was tired and she would have to make breakfast for the family"
you would go
"Her hand shook under the weight of the pan as she prepared eggs that morning. "

only that kind of sucks so don't write it like that but you see what i mean, right?

EDITING
IS A VERY VERY BAD IDEA

Actually, no it's not
be sure to edit your work!
but when you're writing a rough draft do NOT edit
it will take too much time and you'll never get anything done

I personally am really bad at this myself but it's still a good rule to follow!

MY BIGGEST RULE EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER
DO NOT:
write too much
just because a book is long doesn't mean it's great
it just means the author put a lot of time into it
and don't just state things either
IMPLY them
so instead of
"The car slammed through the solid glass building and hit a tree"
you could say
"Glass sprinkled to the floor as the vehicle swerved into the tree on the other side of the building"
ok that's a bad example but hopefully you see what i mean

"Good writers imply, good readers infer"

if there's something i forgot which there probably was i'll add it later

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#47 2012-02-09 17:57:58

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I must've read those ironic sentences thingies about a million times now.


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#48 2012-02-09 18:01:27

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In discussion of planning, I tend not to write my plans down, maybe a VERY rough draft, before I start a "true" rough draft where I form ideas as I write.

J.K. Rowling said she wanted a pen to record thoughts on the train where she thought up Harry Potter, but was too embarrassed to ask anyone and that the ideas were more "full" in her head as she thought on them. Which is sorta what I do.


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#49 2012-02-09 19:02:54

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Re: Aspiring Authors- WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

bananaman114 wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

ProgrammingFreak wrote:

It is probably a good idea. But you can change it if you need to, along the way.
Its just a base, which is good so you don't get offtrack.  wink

Personally, I will come up with several possible scenes or ideas, but never the full story.  I just come up with it as I go along, for the most part.  It is honestly however you write best.

but do the scenes have an order to them?

Not really.  Sometimes I'll have an idea for an earlier scene, sometimes a late one, but I never have an specific order to them before I write.

Thanks for adding that bit in the original post, but the "uh"s make it feel like you're mocking and ridiculing me and other authors who don't plan.  It's slightly angering and makes me feel bad.

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#50 2012-02-09 22:09:16

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Re: Aspiring Authors- WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

PlutoIsHades wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:


Personally, I will come up with several possible scenes or ideas, but never the full story.  I just come up with it as I go along, for the most part.  It is honestly however you write best.

but do the scenes have an order to them?

Not really.  Sometimes I'll have an idea for an earlier scene, sometimes a late one, but I never have an specific order to them before I write.

Thanks for adding that bit in the original post, but the "uh"s make it feel like you're mocking and ridiculing me and other authors who don't plan.  It's slightly angering and makes me feel bad.

no i uh just say "uh" a lot
and i'm not too certain how great the plot can really come out if you don't plan


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