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#26 2012-02-03 17:54:05

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Re: Redwall

I have read all of them.
In all their 500 page epicness.
@Paddle I love the moles, it's easy to read them IMO.
@Cheddar Aww! You should have read Lord Brocktree! It's the best one!


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#27 2012-02-03 17:56:07

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Re: Redwall

Redwall's okay... ish
Eh
No
I never really got into it


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#28 2012-02-03 18:01:36

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Re: Redwall

rabbit1131 wrote:

I have read all of them.
In all their 500 page epicness.
@Paddle I love the moles, it's easy to read them IMO.
@Cheddar Aww! You should have read Lord Brocktree! It's the best one!

Lord Brocktree is pretty good.  I like Dotti.  big_smile


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#29 2012-02-03 20:08:03

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Re: Redwall

my-chemical-romance wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

my-chemical-romance wrote:

Actually, saying "They're not good" is stating your opinion as a fact

lol.

Have you learned about opinions?
You don't have to directly state you are saying an opinion to say one.

Stating it as a fact creates conflict, it's obvious that it's opinion. One of the ways to bully is to make things sound like fact, when's the last time a bully said "In my opinion, everyone hates you"? Stating an opinion as a fact will make people think you're trying to deny everyone else of their opinion.

I think everyone should get an opinion, but don't complain about people disagreeing when you post something negative in its thread.

I didn't hear you say, "in my opinion, stating it as a fact creates conflict."
so don't everyone jump on the hypocrite bandwagon now.

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#30 2012-02-03 20:19:49

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Re: Redwall

brettman98 wrote:

my-chemical-romance wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:


lol.

Have you learned about opinions?
You don't have to directly state you are saying an opinion to say one.

Stating it as a fact creates conflict, it's obvious that it's opinion. One of the ways to bully is to make things sound like fact, when's the last time a bully said "In my opinion, everyone hates you"? Stating an opinion as a fact will make people think you're trying to deny everyone else of their opinion.

I think everyone should get an opinion, but don't complain about people disagreeing when you post something negative in its thread.

I didn't hear you say, "in my opinion, stating it as a fact creates conflict."
so don't everyone jump on the hypocrite bandwagon now.

But that's not an opinion.  Most times, it does creat conflict.


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#31 2012-02-03 20:20:48

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Re: Redwall

PlutoIsHades wrote:

brettman98 wrote:

my-chemical-romance wrote:


Stating it as a fact creates conflict, it's obvious that it's opinion. One of the ways to bully is to make things sound like fact, when's the last time a bully said "In my opinion, everyone hates you"? Stating an opinion as a fact will make people think you're trying to deny everyone else of their opinion.

I think everyone should get an opinion, but don't complain about people disagreeing when you post something negative in its thread.

I didn't hear you say, "in my opinion, stating it as a fact creates conflict."
so don't everyone jump on the hypocrite bandwagon now.

But that's not an opinion.  Most times, it does creat conflict.

I never meant to create conflict. and that is an opinion, because in my opinion, stating an opinion to seem like a fact does not create conflict.


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#32 2012-02-03 20:24:08

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Re: Redwall

brettman98 wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

brettman98 wrote:


I didn't hear you say, "in my opinion, stating it as a fact creates conflict."
so don't everyone jump on the hypocrite bandwagon now.

But that's not an opinion.  Most times, it does creat conflict.

I never meant to create conflict. and that is an opinion, because in my opinion, stating an opinion to seem like a fact does not create conflict.

But look at it this way: you want to discuss something you really care about.  Someone comes up to you and says "oh those are horrible they suck".  Will you get a little mad because the person is using  really snotty, know-it-all phrasing?


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#33 2012-02-03 20:24:55

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Re: Redwall

I saw the books at a cheap used book sale once but I didn't want them  yikes


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#34 2012-02-03 20:27:04

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Re: Redwall

bananaman114 wrote:

I saw the books at a cheap used book sale once but I didn't want them  yikes

tongue
Have you tried them?


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#35 2012-02-03 20:29:58

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Re: Redwall

PlutoIsHades wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

I saw the books at a cheap used book sale once but I didn't want them  yikes

tongue
Have you tried them?

No
to be honest they seemed like another cliche fantasy
mixed with animals

which I couldn't stand

well at the time I could stand the cliche fantasy part
and a couple of animal stories were good but not many

so uh
what are they like?


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#36 2012-02-03 20:41:35

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Re: Redwall

bananaman114 wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

I saw the books at a cheap used book sale once but I didn't want them  yikes

tongue
Have you tried them?

No
to be honest they seemed like another cliche fantasy
mixed with animals

which I couldn't stand

well at the time I could stand the cliche fantasy part
and a couple of animal stories were good but not many

so uh
what are they like?

Mice, squirrels, hedgehogs, moles, and hares running around with swords, fighting evil, but with a lot of messages about friendship.


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#37 2012-02-03 21:12:20

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Re: Redwall

PlutoIsHades wrote:

brettman98 wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:


But that's not an opinion.  Most times, it does creat conflict.

I never meant to create conflict. and that is an opinion, because in my opinion, stating an opinion to seem like a fact does not create conflict.

But look at it this way: you want to discuss something you really care about.  Someone comes up to you and says "oh those are horrible they suck".  Will you get a little mad because the person is using  really snotty, know-it-all phrasing?

i didn't think i was using snotty know it all phrasing, why are you being so cruel? :c
and yes, when my friend said radiohead sucked, but he has never actually heard radiohead. i have read redwall (haha) and I didn't like it :S


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#38 2012-02-03 21:17:11

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Re: Redwall

PlutoIsHades wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:


tongue
Have you tried them?

No
to be honest they seemed like another cliche fantasy
mixed with animals

which I couldn't stand

well at the time I could stand the cliche fantasy part
and a couple of animal stories were good but not many

so uh
what are they like?

Mice, squirrels, hedgehogs, moles, and hares running around with swords, fighting evil, but with a lot of messages about friendship.

yes
a cliche animal story mixed with a cliche fantasy


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#39 2012-02-04 07:26:41

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Re: Redwall

bananaman114 wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:


No
to be honest they seemed like another cliche fantasy
mixed with animals

which I couldn't stand

well at the time I could stand the cliche fantasy part
and a couple of animal stories were good but not many

so uh
what are they like?

Mice, squirrels, hedgehogs, moles, and hares running around with swords, fighting evil, but with a lot of messages about friendship.

yes
a cliche animal story mixed with a cliche fantasy

Eh, I enjoy them.  tongue


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#40 2012-02-04 07:31:28

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Re: Redwall

PlutoIsHades wrote:

brettman98 wrote:

my-chemical-romance wrote:


Stating it as a fact creates conflict, it's obvious that it's opinion. One of the ways to bully is to make things sound like fact, when's the last time a bully said "In my opinion, everyone hates you"? Stating an opinion as a fact will make people think you're trying to deny everyone else of their opinion.

I think everyone should get an opinion, but don't complain about people disagreeing when you post something negative in its thread.

I didn't hear you say, "in my opinion, stating it as a fact creates conflict."
so don't everyone jump on the hypocrite bandwagon now.

But that's not an opinion.  Most times, it does creat conflict.

I was just about to state that.

The majority of the time stating it as a fact when it is not actually causes conflict, I'm stating a fact as a fact. Saying "I don't like them" when you don't like them is a fact, saying "They're really bad" is an opinion, even if you're a huge fan of them.

Nobody's being cruel to you, they're just disagreeing, you disagreed with them, so don't randomly stroll into a thread about something, say it sucks then expect nobody to react.

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#41 2012-02-04 09:07:26

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Re: Redwall

my-chemical-romance wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

brettman98 wrote:


I didn't hear you say, "in my opinion, stating it as a fact creates conflict."
so don't everyone jump on the hypocrite bandwagon now.

But that's not an opinion.  Most times, it does creat conflict.

I was just about to state that.

The majority of the time stating it as a fact when it is not actually causes conflict, I'm stating a fact as a fact. Saying "I don't like them" when you don't like them is a fact, saying "They're really bad" is an opinion, even if you're a huge fan of them.

Nobody's being cruel to you, they're just disagreeing, you disagreed with them, so don't randomly stroll into a thread about something, say it sucks then expect nobody to react.

as an opinion.
i think that maybe you people are blowing this way out of proportion and should go back to discussing the actual topic? :]


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#42 2012-02-04 09:11:15

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Re: Redwall

brettman98 wrote:

my-chemical-romance wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:


But that's not an opinion.  Most times, it does creat conflict.

I was just about to state that.

The majority of the time stating it as a fact when it is not actually causes conflict, I'm stating a fact as a fact. Saying "I don't like them" when you don't like them is a fact, saying "They're really bad" is an opinion, even if you're a huge fan of them.

Nobody's being cruel to you, they're just disagreeing, you disagreed with them, so don't randomly stroll into a thread about something, say it sucks then expect nobody to react.

as an opinion.
i think that maybe you people are blowing this way out of proportion and should go back to discussing the actual topic? :]

geez, the amount of times I've heard that, and the scenario in which it's normally said.

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#43 2012-02-04 13:03:35

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Re: Redwall

I read Martin the Warrior, Rakkety Tam, The Legend of Luke and The Long Patrol when I was 9-11. My favourite was Rakkety Tam. I love the poem to this day still (:


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#44 2012-02-04 13:08:21

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Re: Redwall

Alternatives wrote:

I read Martin the Warrior, Rakkety Tam, The Legend of Luke and The Long Patrol when I was 9-11. My favourite was Rakkety Tam. I love the poem to this day still (:

Whenever I listen to the audiobook, I look forward to hearing the poem being sung.  smile

Rakkety, Rakkety, Rakkety Tam
The drums are beatin' braw
Rakkety, Rakkety, Rakkety Tam
Are ya marchin' off tae war?

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#45 2012-02-04 13:23:07

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Re: Redwall

I read Redwall, but not any of the others. It was OK.

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#46 2012-02-04 13:56:40

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Re: Redwall

my-chemical-romance wrote:

brettman98 wrote:

my-chemical-romance wrote:


I was just about to state that.

The majority of the time stating it as a fact when it is not actually causes conflict, I'm stating a fact as a fact. Saying "I don't like them" when you don't like them is a fact, saying "They're really bad" is an opinion, even if you're a huge fan of them.

Nobody's being cruel to you, they're just disagreeing, you disagreed with them, so don't randomly stroll into a thread about something, say it sucks then expect nobody to react.

as an opinion.
i think that maybe you people are blowing this way out of proportion and should go back to discussing the actual topic? :]

geez, the amount of times I've heard that, and the scenario in which it's normally said.

eh, okay.


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#47 2012-02-04 20:42:11

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Re: Redwall

scimonster wrote:

I read Redwall, but not any of the others. It was OK.

The original Redwall book is really different from all the other books.  It's up to you to decide whether that way is good or bad.


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#48 2012-02-15 16:41:11

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Re: Redwall

Bump.


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#49 2012-02-15 17:38:32

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Re: Redwall

I have the original, I really liked it.

EDIT: I just got some more, the only thing I don't like is that somehow in every one I've read one of my favorite characters dies  sad

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#50 2012-03-12 20:48:13

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Re: Redwall

jet_pilot wrote:

I have the original, I really liked it.

EDIT: I just got some more, the only thing I don't like is that somehow in every one I've read one of my favorite characters dies  sad

That happens to me too, about half the time!
SPOILER ALERT
Methusaleh, why?!  Felldoh, why?!  Swiffo, why?!

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