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#1 2012-02-02 16:26:17

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Redwall

I've read every Redwall book, and most of 'em are epic.  My favorites, though, have to be Rakkety Tam and Marlfox.

Discuss Redwall in all its 400-page-per-book awesomeness!

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#2 2012-02-02 20:11:10

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Re: Redwall

Ugh those weren't any good


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#3 2012-02-02 20:14:03

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Re: Redwall

I thought they were pretty good...I read a lot of them to my son when he was young.  But trying to read what those moles were saying was a nightmare.  Maybe it's easier if you're from the UK  smile


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#4 2012-02-02 20:16:17

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Re: Redwall

I've read the original Redwall and another book of the series called Mariel of Redwallsmile

There were a few Redwall cartoon series for the original Redwall, Mattimeo, and Martin the Warrior, but they're not very accurate in terms of plot.  hmm


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#5 2012-02-02 20:17:46

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Re: Redwall

Never read any of them


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#6 2012-02-02 20:19:43

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Re: Redwall

ive read some of Martin the Warrior and it was pretty good though i never got to finish


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#7 2012-02-02 20:31:18

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Re: Redwall

Paddle2See wrote:

I thought they were pretty good...I read a lot of them to my son when he was young.  But trying to read what those moles were saying was a nightmare.  Maybe it's easier if you're from the UK  smile

The mole accent just takes a lot of practice.  After you've a read a bunch of the books, it comes pretty smoothly.

brettman98 wrote:

Ugh those weren't any good

Um...that's very helpful...and mean...


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#8 2012-02-02 20:36:10

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Re: Redwall

PlutoIsHades wrote:

Paddle2See wrote:

I thought they were pretty good...I read a lot of them to my son when he was young.  But trying to read what those moles were saying was a nightmare.  Maybe it's easier if you're from the UK  smile

The mole accent just takes a lot of practice.  After you've a read a bunch of the books, it comes pretty smoothly.

brettman98 wrote:

Ugh those weren't any good

Um...that's very helpful...and mean...

I thought you wanted to DISCUSS the REDWALL books!
I DIDN'T LIKE THEM.
I can HAVE an OPINION.
Don't post here if you don't like people with opinions!


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#9 2012-02-02 20:37:49

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Re: Redwall

cheddargirl wrote:

I've read the original Redwall and another book of the series called Mariel of Redwallsmile

There were a few Redwall cartoon series for the original Redwall, Mattimeo, and Martin the Warrior, but they're not very accurate in terms of plot.  hmm

Mariel of Redwall is pretty good, IMO.  Tarquin's pretty funny.  big_smile


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#10 2012-02-02 20:38:52

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Re: Redwall

brettman98 wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

Paddle2See wrote:

I thought they were pretty good...I read a lot of them to my son when he was young.  But trying to read what those moles were saying was a nightmare.  Maybe it's easier if you're from the UK  smile

The mole accent just takes a lot of practice.  After you've a read a bunch of the books, it comes pretty smoothly.

brettman98 wrote:

Ugh those weren't any good

Um...that's very helpful...and mean...

I thought you wanted to DISCUSS the REDWALL books!
I DIDN'T LIKE THEM.
I can HAVE an OPINION.
Don't post here if you don't like people with opinions!

No, the way you phrased it was really mean.  It's one thing to say, "I disliked those books" and totally another to say "Ugh those weren't any good".


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#11 2012-02-02 20:40:13

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Re: Redwall

PlutoIsHades wrote:

brettman98 wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

Paddle2See wrote:

I thought they were pretty good...I read a lot of them to my son when he was young.  But trying to read what those moles were saying was a nightmare.  Maybe it's easier if you're from the UK  smile

The mole accent just takes a lot of practice.  After you've a read a bunch of the books, it comes pretty smoothly.


Um...that's very helpful...and mean...

I thought you wanted to DISCUSS the REDWALL books!
I DIDN'T LIKE THEM.
I can HAVE an OPINION.
Don't post here if you don't like people with opinions!

No, the way you phrased it was really mean.  It's one thing to say, "I disliked those books" and totally another to say "Ugh those weren't any good".

it's my personal opinion, and those phrases are one in the same, so you do not have to be rude!


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#12 2012-02-02 20:42:18

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Re: Redwall

brettman98 wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

brettman98 wrote:


I thought you wanted to DISCUSS the REDWALL books!
I DIDN'T LIKE THEM.
I can HAVE an OPINION.
Don't post here if you don't like people with opinions!

No, the way you phrased it was really mean.  It's one thing to say, "I disliked those books" and totally another to say "Ugh those weren't any good".

it's my personal opinion, and those phrases are one in the same, so you do not have to be rude!

Heh, I thought being polite wasn't yelling "THOSE ARE TOTAL TRASH".  Which is basically what you were saying.  I am not trying to be rude.  I am simply pointing out that you were not being at all considerate of others' feelings.


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#13 2012-02-02 20:43:01

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Re: Redwall

brettman98 wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

brettman98 wrote:


I thought you wanted to DISCUSS the REDWALL books!
I DIDN'T LIKE THEM.
I can HAVE an OPINION.
Don't post here if you don't like people with opinions!

No, the way you phrased it was really mean.  It's one thing to say, "I disliked those books" and totally another to say "Ugh those weren't any good".

it's my personal opinion, and those phrases are one in the same, so you do not have to be rude!

Actually, saying "They're not good" is stating your opinion as a fact, which will make someone argue against it, then you reply with "I'm allowed to have an opinion", which you are, and so is everyone else, so if you don't want to argue then don't post negative opinions on threads of things you don't like.

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#14 2012-02-02 20:44:05

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Re: Redwall

PlutoIsHades wrote:

brettman98 wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:


No, the way you phrased it was really mean.  It's one thing to say, "I disliked those books" and totally another to say "Ugh those weren't any good".

it's my personal opinion, and those phrases are one in the same, so you do not have to be rude!

Heh, I thought being polite wasn't yelling "THOSE ARE TOTAL TRASH".  Which is basically what you were saying.  I am not trying to be rude.  I am simply pointing out that you were not being at all considerate of others' feelings.

I don't get what you're saying. I'm not yelling whatever stupid slander you said, and you are very much trying to be rude by slapping me in the face with some sort of backwards logic while i just stated an opinion.


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#15 2012-02-02 20:44:34

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Re: Redwall

Slightly more on topic: Brett, what book did you read that made you say they aren't any good?


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#16 2012-02-02 20:46:05

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Re: Redwall

PlutoIsHades wrote:

Slightly more on topic: Brett, what book did you read that made you say they aren't any good?

ive read about 3-5, and i just found that the villains are too dumb, none of the good guys are ever in any real dramatic situations, and they seem so repetitive :\


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#17 2012-02-02 20:47:30

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Re: Redwall

brettman98 wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

Slightly more on topic: Brett, what book did you read that made you say they aren't any good?

ive read about 3-5, and i just found that the villains are too dumb, none of the good guys are ever in any real dramatic situations, and they seem so repetitive :\

Do you remember the titles?  Or any of the characters?
They are a bit repetitive, but each has something unique.


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#18 2012-02-02 20:48:32

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Re: Redwall

PlutoIsHades wrote:

brettman98 wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

Slightly more on topic: Brett, what book did you read that made you say they aren't any good?

ive read about 3-5, and i just found that the villains are too dumb, none of the good guys are ever in any real dramatic situations, and they seem so repetitive :\

Do you remember the titles?  Or any of the characters?
They are a bit repetitive, but each has something unique.

uhm, the abbot one, some marsomething one, the one titled redwall, maybe one or two others...


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#19 2012-02-02 21:53:35

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Redwall is pretty good but it gets a little boring after a while (to me, anyway). Did you know there's a cookbook for it?


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#20 2012-02-03 06:00:47

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Re: Redwall

brettman98 wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

brettman98 wrote:


ive read about 3-5, and i just found that the villains are too dumb, none of the good guys are ever in any real dramatic situations, and they seem so repetitive :\

Do you remember the titles?  Or any of the characters?
They are a bit repetitive, but each has something unique.

uhm, the abbot one, some marsomething one, the one titled redwall, maybe one or two others...

Marlfox.  Redwall.  And "the abbot one" - there's no way to know which one that is from!
Was there anything you liked about them?


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#21 2012-02-03 06:02:00

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Re: Redwall

luiysia wrote:

Redwall is pretty good but it gets a little boring after a while (to me, anyway). Did you know there's a cookbook for it?

Yeah.  Haven't tried the cookbook yet, though.  tongue


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#22 2012-02-03 10:43:01

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Re: Redwall

my-chemical-romance wrote:

brettman98 wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:


No, the way you phrased it was really mean.  It's one thing to say, "I disliked those books" and totally another to say "Ugh those weren't any good".

it's my personal opinion, and those phrases are one in the same, so you do not have to be rude!

Actually, saying "They're not good" is stating your opinion as a fact

lol.

Have you learned about opinions?
You don't have to directly state you are saying an opinion to say one.


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#23 2012-02-03 10:49:22

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Re: Redwall

soupoftomato wrote:

my-chemical-romance wrote:

brettman98 wrote:


it's my personal opinion, and those phrases are one in the same, so you do not have to be rude!

Actually, saying "They're not good" is stating your opinion as a fact

lol.

Have you learned about opinions?
You don't have to directly state you are saying an opinion to say one.

Stating it as a fact creates conflict, it's obvious that it's opinion. One of the ways to bully is to make things sound like fact, when's the last time a bully said "In my opinion, everyone hates you"? Stating an opinion as a fact will make people think you're trying to deny everyone else of their opinion.

I think everyone should get an opinion, but don't complain about people disagreeing when you post something negative in its thread.

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#24 2012-02-03 15:42:12

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Re: Redwall

my-chemical-romance wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

my-chemical-romance wrote:


Actually, saying "They're not good" is stating your opinion as a fact

lol.

Have you learned about opinions?
You don't have to directly state you are saying an opinion to say one.

Stating it as a fact creates conflict, it's obvious that it's opinion. One of the ways to bully is to make things sound like fact, when's the last time a bully said "In my opinion, everyone hates you"? Stating an opinion as a fact will make people think you're trying to deny everyone else of their opinion.

I think everyone should get an opinion, but don't complain about people disagreeing when you post something negative in its thread.

I wasn't complaining.  I respect Brett's opinion.  What I don't respect is the way he phrased it.  The phrasing was hurtful to people who actually do like and enjoy these books.


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#25 2012-02-03 16:31:43

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Re: Redwall

Okay people!  LET'S GET BACK ON TOPIC, PLEASE!


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