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#1 2008-08-19 15:41:32

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Comparing Scratch (elementary sch) to Alice (middle sch) to Greenfoot

This page compares Scratch with Alice and Greenfoot
http://www.kidslike.info/computer_programming_educational_programming_languages
and discusses the pros and cons of each.

1. Scratch
* originally designed for elementary school children. Came out of MIT. Used to teach programming at Harvard.
2. Alice
* designed for middle school children. Came out of Carnegie Mellon
3. Greenfoot
* designed for high school and college students. Came out of University of Kent (England)

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#2 2008-08-19 15:44:28

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Re: Comparing Scratch (elementary sch) to Alice (middle sch) to Greenfoot

Alice! Ive started using Alice! I still dont know how to program by myself since im used to scratch, but its quite fun!


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#3 2008-08-19 15:52:19

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Re: Comparing Scratch (elementary sch) to Alice (middle sch) to Greenfoot

Hi Highschoolmusical,
Here is a basic alice tutorial  on kids like . info
http://www.kidslike.info/programming_alice_lesson_1_alien_robot_teaches_kid_robot_trick

This tells you how the screen is laid out.
http://www.kidslike.info/programming_with_alice_what_the_different_parts_of_the_screen_do

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#4 2008-08-20 14:27:56

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Re: Comparing Scratch (elementary sch) to Alice (middle sch) to Greenfoot

teachcomputers wrote:

Hi Highschoolmusical,
Here is a basic alice tutorial  on kids like . info
http://www.kidslike.info/programming_alice_lesson_1_alien_robot_teaches_kid_robot_trick

This tells you how the screen is laid out.
http://www.kidslike.info/programming_with_alice_what_the_different_parts_of_the_screen_do

those are cool! I can now do some stuff with Alice, but Scratch is easier. Ive made 2 games there in Alice


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#5 2008-08-20 14:30:47

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Re: Comparing Scratch (elementary sch) to Alice (middle sch) to Greenfoot

alice SUCKS! it a worthless piece of crud in my opinion, you can't make any games with it! the programming technique is really weird its only good for learning some minor stuff about 3D


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#6 2008-08-20 14:32:52

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Re: Comparing Scratch (elementary sch) to Alice (middle sch) to Greenfoot

no, it doesnt, well my dad says it doesnt, and its quite fun so far. There is supposed to be a way to learn Java with it, and I want to learn it


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#7 2008-09-03 18:00:05

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Re: Comparing Scratch (elementary sch) to Alice (middle sch) to Greenfoot

You can make games with it.  But you have to limit your number of objects.  Since Alice is 3D, the computations take too long if you have too many objects.

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#8 2008-09-03 18:03:52

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Re: Comparing Scratch (elementary sch) to Alice (middle sch) to Greenfoot

HighSchoolMusical,
Thanks for the positive feedback!  Please keep posting back as you try different things with Alice.

The first link on this page is for the best Alice book we've found.
http://www.kidslike.info/recommended_books_teaching_kids_programming

The list also includes recommended books for learning Scratch, Java and Python.

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#9 2008-09-26 10:31:03

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Re: Comparing Scratch (elementary sch) to Alice (middle sch) to Greenfoot

kidslikeinfo wrote:

HighSchoolMusical,
Thanks for the positive feedback!  Please keep posting back as you try different things with Alice.

The first link on this page is for the best Alice book we've found.
http://www.kidslike.info/recommended_books_teaching_kids_programming

The list also includes recommended books for learning Scratch, Java and Python.

i bought this one Alice +Java book, its cool


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#10 2008-12-06 16:23:30

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Re: Comparing Scratch (elementary sch) to Alice (middle sch) to Greenfoot

Sounds cool. I'm thinking about downloading Alice, but I'm not quitting Scratch anytime!  smile


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#11 2009-01-01 08:55:35

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Re: Comparing Scratch (elementary sch) to Alice (middle sch) to Greenfoot

Hello,

I think you could use also http://prodcessing.org to learn programming

It's based on Java. You can share yours projects on web or make applications with it. You can use sound and 3D...

( happy new year to all  smile   )


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#12 2009-01-01 09:08:44

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Re: Comparing Scratch (elementary sch) to Alice (middle sch) to Greenfoot

The link does not work !

Jan

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#13 2009-01-01 09:20:27

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Re: Comparing Scratch (elementary sch) to Alice (middle sch) to Greenfoot

http://processing.org/


I've updated my text adventure game.
Colossal Cave 150http://scratch.mit.edu/static/projects/Digimath/3003787_sm.png

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