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#351 2012-02-17 21:35:47

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

fg123 wrote:

DIY wrote:

locker99 wrote:

I saw DIY’s post regarding my violin part and I decided to record it straight away…

I managed to finish this in about 30 minutes (practicing and recording) and this is the result!

I hope you guys like it!  smile


Another thing: I’ve just seen how stupid the arguments going on are, and to quote DIY they are rather ‘baseless’.

I don’t mean to sound the wise guy or anything, but guys, I think you should seriously stop blaming DIY for everything. He is a good mate of mine on Scratch and I know he pushes for professionalism.

He can be a tough guy to please, but his results are stellar! I know that for a fact by the way he conducts his collabs and even solo projects.

Although I don’t know him in real life, I’m sure if there is a person to take your band forward, it’s him. I saw his Let It Be cover that he released at the end of last year (I think) and it was EPIC!!!

Can you believe that he played ALL the instruments on that?!! I don’t know what the instrumentation in that song is, but all I know is that it is extremely hard to play... My band tried to perform it and they could not work out the exact parts at all!

In this context, DIY was definitely not wrong. What he says is right. It’s just that you guys seem to gang up against him each time a wrong statement is made on one of your parts.

Lellowsfuzz, I don’t see your point of leaving, but well, I’ve seen better pianists. They are an easy breed to find, lol!

I hope I have spoken sense to you all - do tell me if I’m in as violinist!  big_smile

Wow! I just listened to it and it is amazing! Simply... flawless...

The recording quality is superb. There is no background disturbance and it's an extremely professional job. Out of the two who've auditioned so far, you are the better one by far, I think it's safe to say.

Without delay, I say you're in!  big_smile

P.S. Thanks for clarifying the point you made to everyone!  smile

For the record, did you even listen to mine?

And yes, techno did appoint my violinist, hence the whole point of making the violin part of Gone.

And lock - sounds great! But to me it sounds like it was digitally made? Could you clarify that?

Firstly, thanks DIY! Appreciate it!  smile

fg123, it is not digitally made.  yikes

Maybe that happened when I transferred it online. I did filter it to get rid of the loud notes in Audacity, but no, I did play it. There's no harm in that, it just meanss less work for DIY! :lol

What do you mean, there a hint of reverb maybe?  smile

veggieman001, you can listen to it in that media player at the bottom of the screen.  big_smile

I think DIY listened to fg123's version because he mentioned mine's was the better of the two, indicating he did indeed. Don't worry, your's sounds great too! It is just like DIY said that your mic picks more background noise than mine and my notes are more pronounced and clear.  smile


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#352 2012-02-17 21:57:27

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

you guys still having singer auditions?


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#353 2012-02-17 22:12:11

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

fg, you could also try running it through noise removal in Audacity and see what you get.


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#354 2012-02-17 22:14:45

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

veggieman001 wrote:

fg, you could also try running it through noise removal in Audacity and see what you get.

Yeah
But it's too late now
They've promised a new violinist into the band


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#355 2012-02-17 22:27:28

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

MrMonk999 wrote:

you guys still having singer auditions?


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#356 2012-02-17 22:27:50

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

zippynk wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

fg, you could also try running it through noise removal in Audacity and see what you get.

Yeah
But it's too late now
They've promised a new violinist into the band

Only one person has decided this, and he doesn't have de facto control. Everyone else should be able to give their opinions.


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#357 2012-02-17 22:35:42

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

veggieman001 wrote:

zippynk wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

fg, you could also try running it through noise removal in Audacity and see what you get.

Yeah
But it's too late now
They've promised a new violinist into the band

Only one person has decided this, and he doesn't have de facto control. Everyone else should be able to give their opinions.

True. I didn't think about that — I guess I assumed his absolute power too early.


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#358 2012-02-17 23:46:00

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

He does enforce his "absolute power" quite clearly among us...


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#359 2012-02-18 04:00:22

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

technoguyx wrote:

fg123 wrote:

I'm the violinist in the band, so you are mistaken.

Bloody hell.

We only need violin for Gone... Not to be harsh, but you're only an invited artist.  tongue  Yes, the violin in Gone was added just for the sake of having you play, but at least I can't consider you a full-time band member.

As for the forum, he's "Band Member" in there just because he's an administrator. I consider that just an insignificant detail that has no effect over us.  wink

Liru wrote:

Does anything actually get made by this band anymore or do you just argue about it all day?

A bit of both, heh. You are right though, no point in arguing or striving to make this band "professional" if we can barely get songs done.

DIY, I never wanted this band to be professional. What could be so professional about a band formed by kids 11-15 in a kids' website, whose main audience is kids on said website, anyway? We do want this to be an organized, and efficient group, but you don't need to act all professional to get things done.

I honestly think it seems like you're trying to take over the band because I can't be online often. I did put you in charge of the band precisely because of that, but if you're going to treat anyone outside the band giving us feedback, like you do now, perhaps I should reconsider it.

Lellowsfuzz wrote:

This has gone too far.

When I joined this, I wanted to be a part of a group of kids creating music. It doesn't even seem like that's happening anymore.
I am quitting because of two reasons:

-DIY
-Not enough time

The former is the main reason. Ever since you showed up, we've made no progress whatsoever. You basically elected yourself the leader(which you're not,) and turned this band into something else. It is MAINLY(but not just) these actions that have caused me to quit the band.

~Lellowsfuzz

Sad to hear that. When I created the very first topic I wanted the same as you, just a group for fun. Not a bunch of discussions for me to sort out. I see your point about DIY, I hope we can sort all this out in the next few days.

EDIT: designer45 did reply about 2 days ago, saying she'd rather be on fg123's forum than her's. Nobody here knows if she's unbanned here yet? In any case, I'll still use fg's forum - organizing everything is much easier there than on a single topic here. Especially since it looks like an argument war zone now.  tongue

Sorry about all that, but will you ever listen to me? Locker stated some noteworthy points as well, and I hope that you will take that into consideration. It is not entirely my fault...

That is definitely not my intention. I do not aspire to take over the band, but instead I want to see FC blossom. You did make me manager, true, but it is not I who is always to blame for these arguments. I agree with Locker, I am a tough guy to please, but I don't agree with the way others approach me.

Professionalism is important, to me at least. Just cos we're "11-15 year olds", doesn't mean we can't raise our game when we very clearly have the potential. You and I are great musicians (we play many instruments, read music well, etc.), there's no point denying. How hard is it to find a person who is a good vocalist? The vocals are the only reason that I don't show FC's songs to my other friends. Even from the lot I made listen to the songs, none of them failed to comment on the vocals saying they were not good.

I can easily find us another vocalist (who is better than designer), but that isn't our main priority right now. We have the recording of tracks to do for Gone and Reload. When the time is right, let's find a vocalist. there are plenty craving for the spot.

Do you really want comments like the ones below for all our projects?

Ritasstudent wrote:

Great song, voice not the best

The_Dancing_Donut wrote:

Not a fan of the vocals

Alternatives wrote:

Not a very strong voice, but nice music.

cartooncreator wrote:

The music is good but the singer can't really hit the high notes.

VanillaCreme wrote:

who is singing? the song and guitar are awesome but i think the singer could do a little better. no offense.

FreshStudios wrote:

The singers voice does not match the tune. Sorry...

67859jun wrote:

whenever the vocalist is hitting the louder notes, it just sounds like he/she's trying to be quiet so no one hears them singing.

Those are some of the comments putting down the vocals. Wouldn't you listen to the feedback of the fans? My point is, designer's not confident and clearly is not a great singer. I have nothing personal against her, but I think that it would be pointless to shift this topic to another place just because of a singer who isn't exceptional in the first place. She quit anyway, so we must move on, finding a better vocalist although she may regret leaving at all.

@ All:

I'm not using my 'absolute power', so don't talk nonsense. Only a fool would deny that Locker's violin part is better than fg's. I'm sure Techno will agree with me in saying that it is so, and now that we need to move on, I suggest we take Locker's bit since it is conveniently free of any background disturbances and pitchy notes.

Techno, trust me in what I'm doing, and I can assure you that I will guide FC well.  smile


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#360 2012-02-18 07:44:27

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

Guys, please stop arguing. It is NOT DIY`s fault. It is no ones fault. It is just silly arguments which are not worth arguing about. Think about it. Frozen Coco is Scratch`s first actually working band. Why break it up now? You guys were doing so well!

Come on, do you want to be part of something awesome, or not?

Also, please do not use words like bloody in terms of insult, It IS unkind, and many people are unhappy about this. Take Paddle2See`s signature for example.

From now on, lets all get along together and keep the record of first working band.

I have faith in you, and I still do. I have stuck with it. I love music, and would like to join, but my mic is rubbish.

Also, sorry for ANOTHER loss in the band. This time Lellowsfuzz.

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#361 2012-02-18 07:54:17

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

I think the problem is that you don't support eachother as a band, you just insult and argue with eachother and make eachother feel bad until people leave then you go on a hunt for yet more band members. You also tell people how bad they are when they've been replaced, but you end up crawling back when their replacement leaves because of the arguing.

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#362 2012-02-18 08:51:11

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

Liru wrote:

I think the problem is that you don't support eachother as a band, you just insult and argue with eachother and make eachother feel bad until people leave then you go on a hunt for yet more band members. You also tell people how bad they are when they've been replaced, but you end up crawling back when their replacement leaves because of the arguing.

We do not need these kind of posts. Like this one. They just spark more arguments.


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#363 2012-02-18 10:04:03

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

Zeusking19 wrote:

Liru wrote:

I think the problem is that you don't support eachother as a band, you just insult and argue with eachother and make eachother feel bad until people leave then you go on a hunt for yet more band members. You also tell people how bad they are when they've been replaced, but you end up crawling back when their replacement leaves because of the arguing.

We do not need these kind of posts. Like this one. They just spark more arguments.

It's kind of true though  hmm


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#364 2012-02-18 10:43:15

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

DIY wrote:

@ All:

I'm not using my 'absolute power', so don't talk nonsense.

Sorry. I probably shouldn't said that. I'll be more careful about what I say from now on.

@fg123: If FC is going to use your forum, could you please make the band discussion at least readable to the public? I'm not asking for you to make it available for everyone to post in it, just read it.


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#365 2012-02-18 11:12:42

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

DIY wrote:

a1130 wrote:

Sorry for being inactive, I can post a recording of me singing over the weekend.

Please do post if you are a female singer.  smile

I'm a boy, but my vocal range is probably alto, not too low. Also, if Lellows is quitting I can take his place as piano player. I have a few recordings in my projects of me playing.

Also next week I'll be going on vacation so I'll be inactive until next Thursday. Sorry  sad

But I will still post a project of me singing when I can  smile

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#366 2012-02-18 11:22:14

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

Zeusking19 wrote:

Guys, please stop arguing. It is NOT DIY`s fault. It is no ones fault. It is just silly arguments which are not worth arguing about. Think about it. Frozen Coco is Scratch`s first actually working band. Why break it up now? You guys were doing so well!

Come on, do you want to be part of something awesome, or not?

Also, please do not use words like bloody in terms of insult, It IS unkind, and many people are unhappy about this. Take Paddle2See`s signature for example.

From now on, lets all get along together and keep the record of first working band.

I have faith in you, and I still do. I have stuck with it. I love music, and would like to join, but my mic is rubbish.

Also, sorry for ANOTHER loss in the band. This time Lellowsfuzz.

I fully back you on that point. Thank you very very much for clarifying that fact.  big_smile

Liru, please, we do not need posts like that, as ZK said.

With that said, let's get our recordings done and carry on this thread. jslomba, I haven't heard from you, so could you start on drums for Gone/Reload?  smile


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#367 2012-02-18 11:44:54

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

Seems like DIY hasn't noticed this.  hmm

a1130 wrote:

DIY wrote:

a1130 wrote:

Sorry for being inactive, I can post a recording of me singing over the weekend.

Please do post if you are a female singer.  smile

I'm a boy, but my vocal range is probably alto, not too low. Also, if Lellows is quitting I can take his place as piano player. I have a few recordings in my projects of me playing.

Also next week I'll be going on vacation so I'll be inactive until next Thursday. Sorry  sad

But I will still post a project of me singing when I can  smile

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#368 2012-02-18 11:50:55

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

a1130 wrote:

Seems like DIY hasn't noticed this.  hmm

a1130 wrote:

DIY wrote:


Please do post if you are a female singer.  smile

I'm a boy, but my vocal range is probably alto, not too low. Also, if Lellows is quitting I can take his place as piano player. I have a few recordings in my projects of me playing.

Also next week I'll be going on vacation so I'll be inactive until next Thursday. Sorry  sad

But I will still post a project of me singing when I can  smile

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Sorry, but what relevance does this have to us?


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#369 2012-02-18 12:23:05

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

DIY wrote:

What relavance does this have with us?

I play piano has well and I can be a piano player as well. Didn't Lellowsfuzz quit?

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#370 2012-02-18 12:33:13

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

a1130 wrote:

DIY wrote:

What relavance does this have with us?

I play piano has well and I can be a piano player as well. Didn't Lellowsfuzz quit?

That's good to know. Though I can play piano, it may be good to have another member.


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#371 2012-02-18 13:31:15

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I will leave you guys to it. If more arguments start, give me a shout.


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#372 2012-02-18 13:46:15

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

DIY wrote:

a1130 wrote:

DIY wrote:

What relavance does this have with us?

I play piano has well and I can be a piano player as well. Didn't Lellowsfuzz quit?

That's good to know. Though I can play piano, it may be good to have another member.

I have a project of me playing piano if you need me to audition. (I've said that before lots of times)

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#373 2012-02-18 15:26:11

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

Liru wrote:

I think the problem is that you don't support eachother as a band, you just insult and argue with eachother and make eachother feel bad until people leave then you go on a hunt for yet more band members. You also tell people how bad they are when they've been replaced, but you end up crawling back when their replacement leaves because of the arguing.

For the record, they were doing fine before DIY came. Not blaming anyone, for the record, I just wanted to point it out. Maybe, DIY, you could be more accepting of other's opinions?

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#374 2012-02-18 15:29:16

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Re: Frozen Coco: Take 3

fg123 wrote:

Liru wrote:

I think the problem is that you don't support eachother as a band, you just insult and argue with eachother and make eachother feel bad until people leave then you go on a hunt for yet more band members. You also tell people how bad they are when they've been replaced, but you end up crawling back when their replacement leaves because of the arguing.

For the record, they were doing fine before DIY came. Not blaming anyone, for the record, I just wanted to point it out. Maybe, DIY, you could be more accepting of other's opinions?

imo it's you. what are you even doing here, arguing with diy all the time? you're not actually in the band.


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#375 2012-02-18 15:31:18

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Agentpieface wrote:

fg123 wrote:

Liru wrote:

I think the problem is that you don't support eachother as a band, you just insult and argue with eachother and make eachother feel bad until people leave then you go on a hunt for yet more band members. You also tell people how bad they are when they've been replaced, but you end up crawling back when their replacement leaves because of the arguing.

For the record, they were doing fine before DIY came. Not blaming anyone, for the record, I just wanted to point it out. Maybe, DIY, you could be more accepting of other's opinions?

imo it's you. what are you even doing here, arguing with diy all the time? you're not actually in the band.

If you say so....


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