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#26 2012-01-18 18:57:33

veggieman001
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Re: The freedom of speech.

soupoftomato wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:


PIPA isn't on the shelf at all, I have no idea where people are getting that rumor from.

In fact, the Senate is going to vote on PIPA on the 24th. And last I checked (which was today) we're currently 35 senators short of stopping PIPA. Once PIPA passes, then it's likely that SOPA will pass as well since there's even less support in the U.S. government against it.

But if it's vetoed, do they have enough support to carry it on?

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They have a TON of support.

Mainly from the idiots we managed to elect
that can't use the internet for their life.

Yay.


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#27 2012-01-18 18:59:14

cheddargirl
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Re: The freedom of speech.

veggieman001 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

Nexstudent wrote:

Everyone seems to say that that S.O.P.A. and P.I.P.A. are on the shelf and done with. This is something that can be worked on any day.

PIPA isn't on the shelf at all, I have no idea where people are getting that rumor from.

In fact, the Senate is going to vote on PIPA on the 24th. And last I checked (which was today) we're currently 35 senators short of stopping PIPA. Once PIPA passes, then it's likely that SOPA will pass as well since there's even less support in the U.S. government against it.

But if it's vetoed, do they have enough support to carry it on?

You mean like vetoed by the U.S. President?

-> In case a little U.S, government 101 is needed for anyone reading this post: Whenever a bill goes through the U.S. government system, it goes through the House of Representatives, and then to the Senate. Then it usually goes to the president who might veto the bill (although there are instances where a veto can be overidden, or a bill can become law without the President's signature)

Seeing as PIPA is already under voting by the Senate (it has already been accepted by the House of Representative, which is not a a good sign), we have to wait to see if PIPA is passed by the Senate; if it's killed in the Senate, then that's good, then we just have SOPA to worry about (whose fate, if I'm not mistaken, is still under review by the House of Representatives). Otherwise (this taken from the official Government 101 page for votesmart.org):

the bill is sent to the President for review.

-   A bill becomes law if signed by the President or if not signed within 10 days and Congress is in session.
-   If Congress adjourns before the 10 days and the President has not signed the bill then it does not become law ("Pocket Veto.")
  -  If the President vetoes the bill it is sent back to Congress with a note listing his/her reasons. The chamber that originated the legislation can attempt to override the veto by a vote of two-thirds of those present. If the veto of the bill is overridden in both chambers then it becomes law.

Let's assume that the bill passes and goes to the president, who vetoes it. There's still the possibility that the veto can be overruled.

If anyone want's it, here's a good webpage explaining about how a bill becomes law.


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#28 2012-01-18 19:07:31

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Re: The freedom of speech.

SpaceManMike wrote:

If you are not american, this doesn't really affect you.

INCORRECT!


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