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Lightnin · 2011-12-31 10:17:01

The Scratch website is a community for everyone, regardless of race, religion, ethnicity, gender, or sexual orientation.

We support who you are, and your desire to talk about LGBT-related topics. A lot of good can come from conversations about LGBT issues. But to make sure that such topics are dealt with in a sensitive and constructive way, it takes a lot of time and energy to moderate the discussion appropriately. Unfortunately, we don’t feel we’re able to do that in the Scratch Forums.

So if you would like to discuss these topics, we encourage you to seek out other forums. Here are some links to good resources:

http://www.trevorspace.org/
http://www.itgetsbetter.org/

stevetheipad · 2011-12-31 10:24:52

I was waiting for this topic to come!

Good, this will clear out lots of confusion in the forums.

coolstuff · 2011-12-31 10:32:28

This is most certainly a well-needed decision! smile

SJRCS_011 · 2011-12-31 10:37:40

Thanks, Lightnin.
I always avoided those topics because I felt uncomfortable around them, so I'm relieved that this came along.

shadow_7283 · 2011-12-31 10:40:12

Good decision. Despite the fuss surrounding the recent forum policy changes, I'm just glad the Scratch Team has such an active role in the community that they are aware of these issues! smile

Last edited by shadow_7283 (2011-12-31 10:40:47)

rabbit1131 · 2011-12-31 12:05:50

Thanks ST!
I like the way you dealt with it.

sanddude · 2011-12-31 12:14:19

This is basically starting this whole thing up again.

coolstuff · 2011-12-31 12:21:18

sanddude wrote:
This is basically starting this whole thing up again.

How do you mean?

PlutoIsHades · 2011-12-31 12:24:56

I don't understand why this is any worse to moderate than the other huge topics.

SilverDomination · 2011-12-31 12:32:39

stevetheipad wrote:
I was waiting for this topic to come!

Same here!
*Sent from my 3ds*

coolstuff · 2011-12-31 12:48:26

PlutoIsHades wrote:
I don't understand why this is any worse to moderate than the other huge topics.

If you were a moderator, you'd understand. The idea is that this is a very controversial issue: many people are extremely homophobic and cringe at the idea; others are very accepting of the thought. Those two groups don't blend well together at all: for example, if Jim said "I hate gay people!" John, who might happen to support gay rights, would be terribly offended!

And because this particular topic has a very high likelihood of spawning such remarks, we've decided it's not within our capabilities to moderate it.

This is the same reason we banned political topics.

imnotbob · 2011-12-31 17:30:07

I honestly think we are capable of handling an LGBT topic. I do understand that some people are unaccepting, but honestly, a few people should not be enough of a reason to make LGBT topics out of the question. The Scratch community is full of LGBT people, and there should be a topic where we can talk about it. It's not spam or anything. Sometimes we need a place to talk about it-- the topic is sort of like an...outlet of sorts for us.

We can. The youngest people we have on the forums are 8, right? Even if their parents don't accept LGBT people, it won't be a problem if they see a topic. And isn't it their choice if the agree or not?

But, since hope is lost of this being un-banned from the forums...
I made a forum.
I sent an e-mail asking for the ST to accept [removed - all forums must first establish themselves as per these guidelines].
It is old, I was afraid to ask the ST to accept it, though.

Last edited by Lightnin (2011-12-31 20:07:32)

PlutoIsHades · 2011-12-31 17:32:21

imnotbob wrote:
I honestly think we are capable of handling an LGBT topic. I do understand that some people are unaccepting, but honestly, a few people should not be enough of a reason to make LGBT topics out of the question. The Scratch community is full of LGBT people, and there should be a topic where we can talk about it. It's not spam or anything. Sometimes we need a place to talk about it-- the topic is sort of like an...outlet of sorts for us.

We can. The youngest people we have on the forums are 8, right? Even if their parents don't accept LGBT people, it won't be a problem if they see a topic. And isn't it their choice if the agree or not?

But, since hope is lost of this being un-banned from the forums...
I made a forum.
I sent an e-mail asking for the ST to accept [link removed - all forums must first establish themselves as per these guidelines].

+infinity and beyond

Last edited by Paddle2See (2012-01-02 11:18:51)

Daroach1 · 2011-12-31 18:44:30

PlutoIsHades wrote:
imnotbob wrote:
I honestly think we are capable of handling an LGBT topic. I do understand that some people are unaccepting, but honestly, a few people should not be enough of a reason to make LGBT topics out of the question. The Scratch community is full of LGBT people, and there should be a topic where we can talk about it. It's not spam or anything. Sometimes we need a place to talk about it-- the topic is sort of like an...outlet of sorts for us.

We can. The youngest people we have on the forums are 8, right? Even if their parents don't accept LGBT people, it won't be a problem if they see a topic. And isn't it their choice if the agree or not?

But, since hope is lost of this being un-banned from the forums...
I made a forum.
I sent an e-mail asking for the ST to accept [link removed - all forums must first establish themselves as per these guidelines].
+infinity and beyond

+EEEEEVEEEEERRRRYYYTHIIING!!!!

Last edited by Paddle2See (2012-01-02 11:19:24)

PlutoIsHades · 2011-12-31 20:27:04

IMO, removing this because it's a controversial issue is like removing Minecraft threads because it includes fighting, and fighting in video games is a controversial issue.

imnotbob · 2011-12-31 23:43:17

Exactly. I honestly don't see the point.

I'm sorry, Scratch, but you have let me down... those threads are like an outlet for us. Some LGBT people can not talk to others and need a place to do so...

puppetadventurer · 2011-12-31 23:54:50

imnotbob wrote:
I honestly think we are capable of handling an LGBT topic. I do understand that some people are unaccepting, but honestly, a few people should not be enough of a reason to make LGBT topics out of the question. The Scratch community is full of LGBT people, and there should be a topic where we can talk about it. It's not spam or anything. Sometimes we need a place to talk about it-- the topic is sort of like an...outlet of sorts for us.

We can. The youngest people we have on the forums are 8, right? Even if their parents don't accept LGBT people, it won't be a problem if they see a topic. And isn't it their choice if the agree or not?

But, since hope is lost of this being un-banned from the forums...
I made a forum.
I sent an e-mail asking for the ST to accept [removed - all forums must first establish themselves as per these guidelines].
It is old, I was afraid to ask the ST to accept it, though.

you guys proved that you couldn't responsibly talk about lgbt without flaming and being mean and stuff so yeah

imnotbob · 2012-01-01 00:43:01

puppetadventurer wrote:
imnotbob wrote:
I honestly think we are capable of handling an LGBT topic. I do understand that some people are unaccepting, but honestly, a few people should not be enough of a reason to make LGBT topics out of the question. The Scratch community is full of LGBT people, and there should be a topic where we can talk about it. It's not spam or anything. Sometimes we need a place to talk about it-- the topic is sort of like an...outlet of sorts for us.

We can. The youngest people we have on the forums are 8, right? Even if their parents don't accept LGBT people, it won't be a problem if they see a topic. And isn't it their choice if the agree or not?

But, since hope is lost of this being un-banned from the forums...
I made a forum.
I sent an e-mail asking for the ST to accept [removed - all forums must first establish themselves as per these guidelines].
It is old, I was afraid to ask the ST to accept it, though.
you guys proved that you couldn't responsibly talk about lgbt without flaming and being mean and stuff so yeah

I honestly have no hope anymore. We won't get the right to post topics back--not for a while, if we ever do.

TVflea · 2012-01-01 01:23:11

It's one topic, THAT'S IT!

"oh no, my helicopter topic got taken down, i'm going to go wither away in this corner"

god, some people take things way too seriously.

imnotbob · 2012-01-01 01:26:27

It's an outlet for us.
Most of us, at least.
Did you just go "tl;dr" when you saw my post?

TVflea · 2012-01-01 01:35:24

imnotbob wrote:
It's an outlet for us.
Most of us, at least.
Did you just go "tl;dr" when you saw my post?

"us"?

Gay people are still people, the same as me and some other straight person.

And yeah, your first post was kinda long.

PlutoIsHades · 2012-01-01 06:44:58

puppetadventurer wrote:
imnotbob wrote:
I honestly think we are capable of handling an LGBT topic. I do understand that some people are unaccepting, but honestly, a few people should not be enough of a reason to make LGBT topics out of the question. The Scratch community is full of LGBT people, and there should be a topic where we can talk about it. It's not spam or anything. Sometimes we need a place to talk about it-- the topic is sort of like an...outlet of sorts for us.

We can. The youngest people we have on the forums are 8, right? Even if their parents don't accept LGBT people, it won't be a problem if they see a topic. And isn't it their choice if the agree or not?

But, since hope is lost of this being un-banned from the forums...
I made a forum.
I sent an e-mail asking for the ST to accept [removed - all forums must first establish themselves as per these guidelines].
It is old, I was afraid to ask the ST to accept it, though.
you guys proved that you couldn't responsibly talk about lgbt without flaming and being mean and stuff so yeah

The majority of us weren't flaming. The majority of us enjoyed having a topic on this. A few users weren't being so nice and flaming. Don't lump us all in with the flamers.

PlutoIsHades · 2012-01-01 07:07:38

coolstuff wrote:
PlutoIsHades wrote:
I don't understand why this is any worse to moderate than the other huge topics.
If you were a moderator, you'd understand. The idea is that this is a very controversial issue: many people are extremely homophobic and cringe at the idea; others are very accepting of the thought. Those two groups don't blend well together at all: for example, if Jim said "I hate gay people!" John, who might happen to support gay rights, would be terribly offended!

And because this particular topic has a very high likelihood of spawning such remarks, we've decided it's not within our capabilities to moderate it.

This is the same reason we banned political topics.

But the same thing, people getting massively offended, could happen from so many other topics too.

imnotbob · 2012-01-01 10:38:29

TVflea wrote:
imnotbob wrote:
It's an outlet for us.
Most of us, at least.
Did you just go "tl;dr" when you saw my post?
"us"?

Gay people are still people, the same as me and some other straight person.

And yeah, your first post was kinda long.

"Us" being LGBT people (mainly the ones on Scratch).

It explains things a bit more.

wolvesstar97 · 2012-01-01 12:53:51

SJRCS_011 wrote:
Thanks, Lightnin.
I always avoided those topics because I felt uncomfortable around them, so I'm relieved that this came along.

+1.

I actually flagged it saying that I didnt think there has to be a topic like this on Scratch.

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