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#26 2011-12-29 18:14:20

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Re: Scratch Forum Development Thread

sparks wrote:

Oh. I should have thought of that... well... maybe we should ask the ST more directly what their plans are for the fora, it may be that they will be discarding this one soon anyway.

Chances are, if they are disposing of the old forum system, they haven't started work on it, so possibly they may allow us to make the official one.


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#27 2011-12-29 23:21:35

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Re: Scratch Forum Development Thread

Keep in mind, though, that you probably will need a converter to migrate all the posts from the old forum system (FluxBB 1.2.14) to this new one you're going to write.


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#28 2011-12-30 01:42:48

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Re: Scratch Forum Development Thread

meowmeow55 wrote:

Keep in mind, though, that you probably will need a converter to migrate all the posts from the old forum system (FluxBB 1.2.14) to this new one you're going to write.

there are two options:
1. what you said (most likely).
2. keep exactly the same database structure.


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#29 2011-12-30 11:08:03

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Re: Scratch Forum Development Thread

TRocket wrote:

meowmeow55 wrote:

Keep in mind, though, that you probably will need a converter to migrate all the posts from the old forum system (FluxBB 1.2.14) to this new one you're going to write.

there are two options:
1. what you said (most likely).
2. keep exactly the same database structure.

Of course, keeping the same database structure would be quite difficult if we're going to be adding new features, so anything that reads the FluxBB database structure will probably end up being used for migration.

Also, could we find a way to implement nXIII's new forum blocks into this? Preferably not via the limiting one-line URL that it's using now, of course.  wink


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#30 2011-12-30 11:25:18

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Re: Scratch Forum Development Thread

Out of curiosity, what language will this be in?

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#31 2011-12-30 11:31:24

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Re: Scratch Forum Development Thread

Magnie wrote:

Out of curiosity, what language will this be in?

PHP is the language of choice for most forum software, so I would recommend that. Other languages would be used as and when we need them.


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#32 2011-12-30 13:02:34

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Re: Scratch Forum Development Thread

rookwood101 wrote:

Magnie wrote:

Out of curiosity, what language will this be in?

PHP is the language of choice for most forum software, so I would recommend that. Other languages would be used as and when we need them.

...as well as quite a bit of CSS & HTML, and hopefully some JS for interactivity.


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#33 2011-12-30 13:05:33

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nXIII wrote:

rookwood101 wrote:

Magnie wrote:

Out of curiosity, what language will this be in?

PHP is the language of choice for most forum software, so I would recommend that. Other languages would be used as and when we need them.

...as well as quite a bit of CSS & HTML, and hopefully some JS for interactivity.

Well, I mostly mean server-side. I'm thinking of learning Django ( Python ) and I might be interested in this.  smile

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#34 2011-12-30 13:16:57

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Re: Scratch Forum Development Thread

Magnie wrote:

nXIII wrote:

rookwood101 wrote:


PHP is the language of choice for most forum software, so I would recommend that. Other languages would be used as and when we need them.

...as well as quite a bit of CSS & HTML, and hopefully some JS for interactivity.

Well, I mostly mean server-side. I'm thinking of learning Django ( Python ) and I might be interested in this.  smile

Seems slightly obscure, but we'll see  smile


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#35 2011-12-30 13:56:44

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Re: Scratch Forum Development Thread

what would we call this fora system - scratchBB?


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#36 2011-12-30 15:01:41

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Re: Scratch Forum Development Thread

TRocket wrote:

what would we call this fora system - scratchBB?

yeah


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#37 2011-12-30 15:13:55

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Re: Scratch Forum Development Thread

I will help.
I've been web developing for years.
ScratchBB will LIVE ON!!


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#38 2011-12-30 16:25:48

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Re: Scratch Forum Development Thread

Magnie wrote:

nXIII wrote:

rookwood101 wrote:


PHP is the language of choice for most forum software, so I would recommend that. Other languages would be used as and when we need them.

...as well as quite a bit of CSS & HTML, and hopefully some JS for interactivity.

Well, I mostly mean server-side. I'm thinking of learning Django ( Python ) and I might be interested in this.  smile

Django is lovely. It takes out all the mundane stuff so you can concentrate on the fun stuff  big_smile  Once you've tried it, you never want to use anything else! Have a play with the tutorial, and you should pick it up pretty quickly  smile

I think there are similar frameworks for PHP, too; maybe something like CakePHP.


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#39 2011-12-30 16:39:49

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Re: Scratch Forum Development Thread

blob8108 wrote:

Magnie wrote:

nXIII wrote:

...as well as quite a bit of CSS & HTML, and hopefully some JS for interactivity.

Well, I mostly mean server-side. I'm thinking of learning Django ( Python ) and I might be interested in this.  smile

Django is lovely. It takes out all the mundane stuff so you can concentrate on the fun stuff  big_smile  Once you've tried it, you never want to use anything else! Have a play with the tutorial, and you should pick it up pretty quickly  smile

I think there are similar frameworks for PHP, too; maybe something like CakePHP.

maybe but I think most of the ATers know PHP very well already
Django sounds to me like a simpler, python version of JBOSS?

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#40 2011-12-30 17:03:56

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Re: Scratch Forum Development Thread

TRocket wrote:

blob8108 wrote:

Magnie wrote:


Well, I mostly mean server-side. I'm thinking of learning Django ( Python ) and I might be interested in this.  smile

Django is lovely. It takes out all the mundane stuff so you can concentrate on the fun stuff  big_smile  Once you've tried it, you never want to use anything else! Have a play with the tutorial, and you should pick it up pretty quickly  smile

I think there are similar frameworks for PHP, too; maybe something like CakePHP.

maybe but I think most of the ATers know PHP very well already
Django sounds to me like a simpler, python version of JBOSS?

Yep, we ATters know PHP WAY, WAY better.  smile
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#41 2011-12-30 17:04:35

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Re: Scratch Forum Development Thread

Cool! I'd like to help, but I'm not sure how.  hmm


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#42 2011-12-30 17:18:27

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WindowsExplorer wrote:

Cool! I'd like to help, but I'm not sure how.  hmm

we haven't started yet!  wink  we are waiting for the ST to "commission" us


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#43 2011-12-30 18:07:18

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Re: Scratch Forum Development Thread

cocolover76 wrote:

TRocket wrote:

blob8108 wrote:

I think there are similar frameworks for PHP, too; maybe something like CakePHP.

maybe but I think most of the ATers know PHP very well already
Django sounds to me like a simpler, python version of JBOSS?

Yep, we ATters know PHP WAY, WAY better.  smile

Really? That's a shame -- I've done quite a bit of both, and I find Python code much cleaner and more readable. PHP is just a little more convenient to set up.  smile


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#44 2011-12-30 18:18:12

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Re: Scratch Forum Development Thread

blob8108 wrote:

cocolover76 wrote:

TRocket wrote:

maybe but I think most of the ATers know PHP very well already
Django sounds to me like a simpler, python version of JBOSS?

Yep, we ATters know PHP WAY, WAY better.  smile

Really? That's a shame -- I've done quite a bit of both, and I find Python code much cleaner and more readable. PHP is just a little more convenient to set up.  smile

Also, I'm sure gbear would be willing to let us create and test the project on escratch.org  smile

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#45 2011-12-30 22:32:41

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Re: Scratch Forum Development Thread

I would like to help.
I know HTML, HTML5, JS, PHP, and Python (though not much in the web design with python, but Magnie sent me a few articles...)


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#46 2011-12-30 22:53:50

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I think it would be good for us all to learn a new language and for those of us that already know Python would learn about web-design with Python.

So it's a learn-learn ( win-win  tongue  ) for us all and I think it would be fun to create a site with Python, especially a forum since there are so few Python forums out there.

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#47 2011-12-31 01:29:46

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I'd help with design.


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#48 2011-12-31 01:40:06

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Re: Scratch Forum Development Thread

I'd love to help. I'm good at PHP.

About the hashing method...
I believe FluxBB uses MD5.


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#49 2011-12-31 02:01:43

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Re: Scratch Forum Development Thread

fg123 wrote:

I'd love to help. I'm good at PHP.

About the hashing method...
I believe FluxBB uses MD5.

the hashing shouldn't be a problem since we could use MD5 too  smile


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#50 2011-12-31 02:20:51

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Re: Scratch Forum Development Thread

TRocket wrote:

fg123 wrote:

I'd love to help. I'm good at PHP.

About the hashing method...
I believe FluxBB uses MD5.

the hashing shouldn't be a problem since we could use MD5 too  smile

I think we should move on to sha512 or higher.  tongue

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