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#51 2011-12-29 14:09:21

RedRocker227
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Re: Images Disabled

cheddargirl wrote:

WingsGames wrote:

They just disabled images because of the troll attack! I'm surprised....

I'm not.

Images were disabled when some other users did a similar thing a while back. My guess is that they'll remain disabled until something can be figured out on how to better deal with these kinds of attacks in the future, much like last time.

How long do you think that'll take?


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#52 2011-12-29 14:10:52

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Re: Images Disabled

RedRocker227 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

WingsGames wrote:

They just disabled images because of the troll attack! I'm surprised....

I'm not.

Images were disabled when some other users did a similar thing a while back. My guess is that they'll remain disabled until something can be figured out on how to better deal with these kinds of attacks in the future, much like last time.

How long do you think that'll take?

That I don't know.  hmm


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#53 2011-12-29 14:12:39

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Re: Images Disabled

cheddargirl wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:


I'm not.

Images were disabled when some other users did a similar thing a while back. My guess is that they'll remain disabled until something can be figured out on how to better deal with these kinds of attacks in the future, much like last time.

How long do you think that'll take?

That I don't know.  hmm

Oh, okay.
How long did it take last time it happened then?


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#54 2011-12-29 14:41:53

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Re: Images Disabled

RedRocker227 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:

How long do you think that'll take?

That I don't know.  hmm

Oh, okay.
How long did it take last time it happened then?

It took a couple of days last time. But back then, the solution to the problem was somewhat more simple - New Scratcher accounts have limitations until they're upgraded to Scratcher.

This seems to be a rather different case where older users post inappropriate images, so coming up with a solution to the trolling problem isn't as easy (if you look towards some of the solutions that people are suggesting, they're not exactly easy to implement, or they have their own cons as well).

Such incidences are not limited to just Scratch, other forums usually encounter these kind of problems, too, at some point or another. Some have gotten so far up to the point where links and images are disabled permanently (or, in one scary case, all posts were screened before they were ever made public), but that's kind of going a bit too far now, don't you think? Hopefully we'll come up with a solution, one that doesn't come to extreme points like that. For now just be patient until a viable solution is figured out.  smile


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#55 2011-12-29 14:44:23

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Re: Images Disabled

cheddargirl wrote:

(or, in one scary case, all posts were screened before they were ever made public)

That's what Stacks is like--it's so annoying
Argh I hope that never happens to Scratch


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#56 2011-12-29 14:44:57

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Re: Images Disabled

cheddargirl wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:


That I don't know.  hmm

Oh, okay.
How long did it take last time it happened then?

It took a couple of days last time. But back then, the solution to the problem was somewhat more simple - New Scratcher accounts have limitations until they're upgraded to Scratcher.

This seems to be a rather different case where older users post inappropriate images, so coming up with a solution to the trolling problem isn't as easy (if you look towards some of the solutions that people are suggesting, they're not exactly easy to implement, or they have their own cons as well).

Such incidences are not limited to just Scratch, other forums usually encounter these kind of problems, too, at some point or another. Some have gotten so far up to the point where links and images are disabled permanently (or, in one scary case, all posts were screened before they were ever made public), but that's kind of going a bit too far now, don't you think? Hopefully we'll come up with a solution, one that doesn't come to extreme points like that. For now just be patient until a viable solution is figured out.  smile

Only members with 500 posts can post images?

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#57 2011-12-29 14:46:09

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Re: Images Disabled

Okay, thanks for replying.
But what do you mean by "all posts were screened"?


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#58 2011-12-29 14:46:51

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Re: Images Disabled

RedRocker227 wrote:

Okay, thanks for replying.
But what do you mean by "all posts were screened"?

Seen by a moderator.

Also, 1337 posts  tongue

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#59 2011-12-29 14:47:32

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Re: Images Disabled

RedRocker227 wrote:

Okay, thanks for replying.
But what do you mean by "all posts were screened"?

Post is submitted
Post goes to mods and wait there for a long time while other posts gets read
Finally, post is read and deemed appropriate or inappropriate
Appropriate posts are finally visible to everyone
It can take days for a post to get read on a forum that's used a lot.


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#60 2011-12-29 14:47:36

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Re: Images Disabled

http://witchkingofangmar.weebly.com/uploads/1/0/1/4/10144921/4203432_orig.png

^img test

I support bringing it back.


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#61 2011-12-29 14:50:42

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Re: Images Disabled

Daroach1 wrote:

And none of you have started the petition yet?


Okay:

People who want img tag back:
CheeseMunchy
nightmarescratcher
Daroach1
agscratcher
WingsGames

Of course they will add it back.


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#62 2011-12-29 14:51:24

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Re: Images Disabled

CheeseMunchy wrote:

Daroach1 wrote:

And none of you have started the petition yet?


Okay:

People who want img tag back:
CheeseMunchy
nightmarescratcher
Daroach1
agscratcher
WingsGames

Of course they will add it back.

Yes, of course.


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#63 2011-12-29 14:54:12

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Re: Images Disabled

nightmarescratcher wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:

Daroach1 wrote:

And none of you have started the petition yet?


Okay:

Of course they will add it back.

Yes, of course.

So what is the point of this petition? :p


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#64 2011-12-29 14:56:51

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Re: Images Disabled

my-chemical-romance wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

RedRocker227 wrote:


Oh, okay.
How long did it take last time it happened then?

It took a couple of days last time. But back then, the solution to the problem was somewhat more simple - New Scratcher accounts have limitations until they're upgraded to Scratcher.

This seems to be a rather different case where older users post inappropriate images, so coming up with a solution to the trolling problem isn't as easy (if you look towards some of the solutions that people are suggesting, they're not exactly easy to implement, or they have their own cons as well).

Such incidences are not limited to just Scratch, other forums usually encounter these kind of problems, too, at some point or another. Some have gotten so far up to the point where links and images are disabled permanently (or, in one scary case, all posts were screened before they were ever made public), but that's kind of going a bit too far now, don't you think? Hopefully we'll come up with a solution, one that doesn't come to extreme points like that. For now just be patient until a viable solution is figured out.  smile

Only members with 500 posts can post images?

There was a similar policy like that with signatures before to reduce commercial spam, all the spammers had to do was post in the forum with the required number of posts in order to get a signature. Someone with malicious intent can easily do the same thing.  hmm


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#65 2011-12-29 14:57:04

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Re: Images Disabled

CheeseMunchy wrote:

nightmarescratcher wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:

Of course they will add it back.

Yes, of course.

So what is the point of this petition? :p

I dont really know.  hmm

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#66 2011-12-29 14:58:05

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Re: Images Disabled

CheeseMunchy wrote:

nightmarescratcher wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:

Of course they will add it back.

Yes, of course.

So what is the point of this petition?  tongue

It has no point.


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#67 2011-12-29 14:58:27

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Re: Images Disabled

cheddargirl wrote:

my-chemical-romance wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:


It took a couple of days last time. But back then, the solution to the problem was somewhat more simple - New Scratcher accounts have limitations until they're upgraded to Scratcher.

This seems to be a rather different case where older users post inappropriate images, so coming up with a solution to the trolling problem isn't as easy (if you look towards some of the solutions that people are suggesting, they're not exactly easy to implement, or they have their own cons as well).

Such incidences are not limited to just Scratch, other forums usually encounter these kind of problems, too, at some point or another. Some have gotten so far up to the point where links and images are disabled permanently (or, in one scary case, all posts were screened before they were ever made public), but that's kind of going a bit too far now, don't you think? Hopefully we'll come up with a solution, one that doesn't come to extreme points like that. For now just be patient until a viable solution is figured out.  smile

Only members with 500 posts can post images?

There was a similar policy like that with signatures before to reduce commercial spam, all the spammers had to do was post in the forum with the required number of posts in order to get a signature. Someone with malicious intent can easily do the same thing.  hmm

Then they get banned for spamming, 500 posts isn't easy to do.

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#68 2011-12-29 14:59:10

wolvesstar97
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Re: Images Disabled

cheddargirl wrote:

my-chemical-romance wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

It took a couple of days last time. But back then, the solution to the problem was somewhat more simple - New Scratcher accounts have limitations until they're upgraded to Scratcher.

This seems to be a rather different case where older users post inappropriate images, so coming up with a solution to the trolling problem isn't as easy (if you look towards some of the solutions that people are suggesting, they're not exactly easy to implement, or they have their own cons as well).

Such incidences are not limited to just Scratch, other forums usually encounter these kind of problems, too, at some point or another. Some have gotten so far up to the point where links and images are disabled permanently (or, in one scary case, all posts were screened before they were ever made public), but that's kind of going a bit too far now, don't you think? Hopefully we'll come up with a solution, one that doesn't come to extreme points like that. For now just be patient until a viable solution is figured out.  smile

Only members with 500 posts can post images?

There was a similar policy like that with signatures before to reduce commercial spam, all the spammers had to do was post in the forum with the required number of posts in order to get a signature. Someone with malicious intent can easily do the same thing.  hmm

Remember, we still have the 60 second rule. I dont think commercial spammers would wait around all day to post spams on a childrens website that has the fact that the older posts will be deleted by the time they can post again.

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#69 2011-12-29 14:59:52

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Re: Images Disabled

nightmarescratcher wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:

nightmarescratcher wrote:


Yes, of course.

So what is the point of this petition?  tongue

It has no point.

In that case.
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#70 2011-12-29 15:00:06

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Re: Images Disabled

wolvesstar97 wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:

nightmarescratcher wrote:


Yes, of course.

So what is the point of this petition? :p

I dont really know.  hmm

To enable images again, I presume.


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#71 2011-12-29 15:01:19

cheddargirl
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Re: Images Disabled

wolvesstar97 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

my-chemical-romance wrote:


Only members with 500 posts can post images?

There was a similar policy like that with signatures before to reduce commercial spam, all the spammers had to do was post in the forum with the required number of posts in order to get a signature. Someone with malicious intent can easily do the same thing.  hmm

Remember, we still have the 60 second rule .

Posting time limits don't solve all spam problems.  hmm


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#72 2011-12-29 15:01:26

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Re: Images Disabled

RedRocker227 wrote:

wolvesstar97 wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:


So what is the point of this petition? :p

I dont really know.  hmm

To enable images again, I presume.

I'm guessing you didn't read the above quotes.


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#73 2011-12-29 15:01:27

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Re: Images Disabled

RedRocker227 wrote:

wolvesstar97 wrote:

CheeseMunchy wrote:


So what is the point of this petition? :p

I dont really know.  hmm

To enable images again, I presume.

Correct.

.... tongue


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#74 2011-12-29 15:03:43

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Re: Images Disabled

cheddargirl wrote:

wolvesstar97 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

There was a similar policy like that with signatures before to reduce commercial spam, all the spammers had to do was post in the forum with the required number of posts in order to get a signature. Someone with malicious intent can easily do the same thing.  hmm

Remember, we still have the 60 second rule .

Posting time limits don't solve all spam problems.  hmm

Well,

wolvesstar97 wrote:

I dont think commercial spammers would wait around all day to post spams on a childrens website that has the fact that the older posts will be deleted by the time they can post again.

I edited it after you quoted me.  smile

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#75 2011-12-29 15:04:03

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Re: Images Disabled

my-chemical-romance wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

my-chemical-romance wrote:


Only members with 500 posts can post images?

There was a similar policy like that with signatures before to reduce commercial spam, all the spammers had to do was post in the forum with the required number of posts in order to get a signature. Someone with malicious intent can easily do the same thing.  hmm

Then they get banned for spamming, 500 posts isn't easy to do.

Believe it or not, its easier than you think, I've seen it happen. For example, a user go to the Show and Tell forums complementing on a project, or gives a greeting on the New Scratcher forums, or comments on how helpful a tutorial thread is - all of these look like legitimate posts.


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