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joefarebrother wrote:

laser314 wrote:

joletole wrote:

Well, I think that disabling the img tags is a horrible idea. Everybody uses them, so why disable them. If you take a look at the topic "Your Local Block Library" all you can see is a bunch of words and links.

And, yes, I know someone misused the img tag, but you should just tell them to stop and if they don't... well ban them from the forums.

If you agree with this post, reply to it saying "+1". That will get Paddle2See's attention.

+1

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Though in the meantime, use antidote

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I think this descision is good for the community, however there are some disadvanages too. Here is what Ive collected from some posts before:

Pros:
Pages Load faster
No more spam
No more confusion between pic and sig ( some people will just think it is signature and pass it )

Cons:
Less colorful/beautiful ( besides the fact that sratch blocks and Signatures are still going


So in the final debate, I think that disableing the IMG tag is fair way of telling us not to spam in images, here or on scratch. However I believe that there may be some ways to rehandle it:

Make it so that only full scratchers could use the IMG tags
                                             OR
Watch the current activeness of spam and see if the rates go up or down over the past month year ect. If they go up then wait abit longer, i they go down allow the IMG tags until some massive spam or other comes from it.
                                              OR
Have the moderators veiw it first before it can be veiwed, but make sure the moderators are doing their job almost every day.

I think that these type of descisions in scratch are completely okay to debate about and if you do not like one of my ideas please feel free to tell me why you think it wont work, but just one please.
                    From Unite

scimonster wrote:

Unite wrote:

I think this descision is good for the community, however there are some disadvanages too. Here is what Ive collected from some posts before:

Pros:
Pages Load faster
No more spam
No more confusion between pic and sig ( some people will just think it is signature and pass it )

Cons:
Less colorful/beautiful ( besides the fact that sratch blocks and Signatures are still going


So in the final debate, I think that disableing the IMG tag is fair way of telling us not to spam in images, here or on scratch. However I believe that there may be some ways to rehandle it:

Make it so that only full scratchers could use the IMG tags
                                             OR
Watch the current activeness of spam and see if the rates go up or down over the past month year ect. If they go up then wait abit longer, i they go down allow the IMG tags until some massive spam or other comes from it.
                                              OR
Have the moderators veiw it first before it can be veiwed, but make sure the moderators are doing their job almost every day.

I think that these type of descisions in scratch are completely okay to debate about and if you do not like one of my ideas please feel free to tell me why you think it wont work, but just one please.
                    From Unite

Before this, only full Scratchers could use the IMG tag.
The last one is rather impossible, as the Scratch moderator team is few, and they're just volunteers.

Good point    I think the second will be the best solution. Do you agree?

Wait a sec, I found a solution!
You have these 'img points' that ONLY mods/admins can add to. They add to your img points for you being helpful and not spamming.
Posting an image uses 10 img points. You can only spend a certain number of img points per day (maybe 50 to start out with, or 5 images?)
The img points wouldn't be visible to other Scratchers, just you.
Oh, and you can't add any img points to New Scratcher accounts since they cannot post images.
Pros:
-only people who are helpful and don't spam get to use img tags
-you must choose when to use your img points.
-it will be as a sort of "currency," and many people want a currency system on Scratch.
Cons:
-spammers create multiple accounts (they already do) to abuse the system.

What do you guys think?

MoreGamesNow wrote:

Mokat wrote:

Wait a sec, I found a solution!
You have these 'img points' that ONLY mods/admins can add to. They add to your img points for you being helpful and not spamming.
Posting an image uses 10 img points. You can only spend a certain number of img points per day (maybe 50 to start out with, or 5 images?)
The img points wouldn't be visible to other Scratchers, just you.
Oh, and you can't add any img points to New Scratcher accounts since they cannot post images.
Pros:
-only people who are helpful and don't spam get to use img tags
-you must choose when to use your img points.
-it will be as a sort of "currency," and many people want a currency system on Scratch.
Cons:
-spammers create multiple accounts (they already do) to abuse the system.

What do you guys think?

What advantages does this have over a "report image" system, in which an image with a number of reports (5?) is automatically removed for the mods to look at?  This is far more effective against spammers, as well as making the forums a better experience (you don't have to constantly worry about running out of "image points")Yes, but if you are worried about running out of [img]points, then you might use images more wisely..

What do you mean by calling it a "currency".  Can you give your points to other people? No, but by a 'currency" I mean that it would be like on a lot of other forums with a thing that says "reputation". You can't give that to other people, but it seems like a currency, or a reward for good behavior.

Why make 10 points = 1 image.  Why not just 1 point = 1 image? Yes, but if you had it worth 10 points, you would have to use the images more wisely.

I guess I'll have to get used to it.    Some things are disabled before you ever got to use it.    I guess that's that... This is so dramatic! I'm going to cry!!!!!    XD:

Mokat wrote:

MoreGamesNow wrote:

What advantages does this have over a "report image" system, in which an image with a number of reports (5?) is automatically removed for the mods to look at?  This is far more effective against spammers, as well as making the forums a better experience (you don't have to constantly worry about running out of "image points")Yes, but if you are worried about running out of [url]points, then you might use images more wisely..

What do you mean by calling it a "currency".  Can you give your points to other people? No, but by a 'currency" I mean that it would be like on a lot of other forums with a thing that says "reputation". You can't give that to other people, but it seems like a currency, or a reward for good behavior.

Why make 10 points = 1 image.  Why not just 1 point = 1 image? Yes, but if you had it worth 10 points, you would have to use the images more wisely.

I didn't think people over-used pictures before they were banned, and limiting their picture use would, in my opinion, make the forums less friendly and more bland.  As to "reputation", I thought only you could see image points.  A reputation is, by definition, public.

And making 10 points = 1 image is no different from having 1 point = 1 image, and giving 1/10 as many points to each user.

Greenatic wrote:

Haiming wrote:

Sorry, that was kind of spammish... (is that a word?         )

What was image tagging like? What do you mean by abuses?

Well, image tagging allowed much more inviting content on the forums.  Now they just look bland by comparison.  IMG tags were occasionally used for pointless spam, especially in Miscellaneous.  However, the final straw was a troll attack in the Miscellaneous forum containing highly inappropiate images.   

There was a miscellanious forum?

scimonster wrote:

Unite wrote:

I think this descision is good for the community, however there are some disadvanages too. Here is what Ive collected from some posts before:

Pros:
Pages Load faster
No more spam
No more confusion between pic and sig ( some people will just think it is signature and pass it )

Cons:
Less colorful/beautiful ( besides the fact that sratch blocks and Signatures are still going


So in the final debate, I think that disableing the IMG tag is fair way of telling us not to spam in images, here or on scratch. However I believe that there may be some ways to rehandle it:

Make it so that only full scratchers could use the IMG tags
                                             OR
Watch the current activeness of spam and see if the rates go up or down over the past month year ect. If they go up then wait abit longer, i they go down allow the IMG tags until some massive spam or other comes from it.
                                              OR
Have the moderators veiw it first before it can be veiwed, but make sure the moderators are doing their job almost every day.

I think that these type of descisions in scratch are completely okay to debate about and if you do not like one of my ideas please feel free to tell me why you think it wont work, but just one please.
                    From Unite

Before this, only full Scratchers could use the IMG tag.
The last one is rather impossible, as the Scratch moderator team is few, and they're just volunteers.

It could take forever to get all of them approved!

when i try to post an image, it gives me this error:
http://i43.tinypic.com/hv9y8g.gif

Mokat wrote:

when i try to post an image, it gives me this error:
http://i43.tinypic.com/hv9y8g.gif

Oh yeah, interesting. ^^

Hopefully it'll take place soon

(I notice they put "BB code" though, not "BBCode")