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my-chemical-romance wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

my-chemical-romance wrote:

This happened in Wurm, mods were offline due to timezones and people would come on and troll. It was fixed by a mass ignore system, if 33% of users online which have said something within the last 20 minutes ignore the troll he will be muted. I'm sure this could be changed to suit Scratch.

Interesting idea. What do you mean "ignore"? Like, not reply? Also, what if simply nobody has something to reply to a topic, even if it's not inappropriate?

Well, ignoring was basically saying "/ignore user" and anything they say will not appear for you. And as long as the people who are reporting are reporting then it's all good, but in Wurm they had to make sure that people couldn't just mute someone if they did nothing wrong.

Oh, I see, it's a chatroom. That makes sense. So it's fairly similar to the vote-to-report in our forum situation.

cpumaster930 wrote:

This seems like a tricky one to fix because it's pretty much impossible to determine a user's intentions about posting.  Will they be helpful or spam?

Increasing the number of posts, comments, etc. would likely upset a number of New Scratchers wanting an upgraded rank; however, it was apparently easy enough for the spammer to attain the Scratcher rank by the current conditions.  Manual moderator approval would also be quite tedious considering Scratch's large userbase.

You're right. Even I could post inappropriate content and cause large havoc and get banned. The current system is most likely as good as it is going to get, so other solutions are needed (such as #1-3 in the topic post).

imnotbob wrote:

How about, instead of automatically, a mod or ST member could manually do it.

That would certainly work, however as mentioned by cpumaster930 and myself, people can still change their posting intentions, and even manual processes won't ensure people like the posted in this event will not be approved. I've seen the person's projects, and they're quite innocent, as an example.

Wait wha? can someone please explain What happened in not such a big paragraph?

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VanillaCreme wrote:

Wait wha? can someone please explain What happened in not such a big paragraph?

Something bad but this topic isn't about that.

WingsGames wrote:

I say we set up a rotating schedule to help the mods out. There's only 7 of them, and there's tons of us. If just a few of us set up a little schedule to look for bad posts and report them, that could help the mods out tremendously. We could communicate via messages (comments on projects).

A rotating schedule might work, but it isn't very practical. Moderating is volunteer work, and that's how it's meant to be. A schedule would greatly lower the number of people that would be able to moderate.

Paddle2See wrote:

Some good ideas proposed here!  I like the idea of a voting system with review - that's pretty much exactly what we have on the main site with projects and comments.  The difficulty is finding the resources to get such a modification implemented in the forums.  Most of the development effort is focused on moving Scratch into an entirely web-based environment. 

More moderators would help to a certain extent...but providing 24/7 coverage would be very difficult with the volunteer moderators that we currently use.  A carefully planned attack could always find a time period when the site was unattended by moderators.

I'll bring this topic to the attention of the rest of the Scratch Team so they can benefit from your thinking.

Thank you! With Scratch 2.0 coming in the upcoming year (at least from what I hear), the whole website might change, including the forum (whether it be a simple UI design, or a whole new posting system.) That being said, adding a voting system as mentioned here might not be high priority.

I recall one time suggesting that the front page should be customized like iGoogle, where you can move, add, and remove different sections on the front page. One of the issues was that Google has many teams to work on those sort of things, while the Scratch Team doesn't. I think that might be one of the obstacles in getting the idea to become a reality, but who knows. The Scratch Team can do amazing things  .

JJROCKER wrote:

Are any other sections of the forums having problems like this or is it only the Miscellaneous section?

It's mostly happening in Miscellaneous. Very few incidents in other sections.

JJROCKER wrote:

Medic wrote:

my-chemical-romance wrote:

I'm on all day every day, yet I stand so powerless. It feels bad being powerless.

+1

I'm in the same position.

me to

soupoftomato wrote:

I like how nothing has mentioned removing Miscellaneous.
That's just too special isn't it.

Paddle did. Actually, that would be the easiest thing to do.

coolstuff wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

I like how nothing has mentioned removing Miscellaneous.
That's just too special isn't it.

That's been discussed numerous times on these forums, with the verdict consistently being that Miscellaneous is too important to the community (forming bonds between members, keeping spam out of other forums, etc.) that it can't go. So, I'm afraid that's simply not an option.

I'm sorry I wasn't able to be online. While our moderator team typically tries to be as active as is possible, today was clearly one of the exceptions. I was visiting with family at the time, and only just got a chance to be on the computer. I'm sure the situation was the same with others.

The solution is clearly to get such nerdy mods that they have been excluded from their family and have no social circle and this is the only website available to them.

I think the vote for system is good, with mods you have a big ratio of mods to players, making each player able to group up and take down topics would mean that mods would have less of a work-load.

my-chemical-romance wrote:

I think the vote for system is good, with mods you have a big ratio of mods to players, making each player able to group up and take down topics would mean that mods would have less of a work-load.

Yeah, I like that plan 

Topic limits per week too, since that's been a recurring thing.

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Lucario621 wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

[Don't quote this! I've more to add!]

I've? Pretty uncommon contraction if you ask me...    (lol I quoted you)

Clever. 

I don't consider "I've" to be a particularly uncommon contraction; however, I'm rather convolut'd like that.

And, yes, I now realize that soup was joking. 

johndo77 wrote:

Maybe we could have sub-mods that can temporarily hide a thread? Also I have no idea what happened 

a guy posted bad stuff.

thats the gist of it

coolstuff wrote:

Also, I'm not entirely sure about the voting system. While it might get topics closed more quickly that they would have initially done, many users report or flag things which may not be inappropriate, or simply have misjudged the topic.

Your point may be valid, but the same applies for flagging projects as inappropriate, and I'd say that works very well.

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my-chemical-romance wrote:

"Make it idiot proof and people will design better idiots"

Sorry, I know this is serious, but that made me laugh.  </offtopic>