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midnightleopard · 2011-12-21 16:35:01

Just thinking of making something but I need a bit of help.
My question is simple:
How can I interface the scratch source to call DLL functions? I don't know much about dlls but I have read the scratch plugin source and understand how they are made. I plan on making one with python.

Last edited by midnightleopard (2011-12-21 16:55:36)

roijac · 2011-12-22 07:01:36

you can't compile python into machine code wink

samtwheels · 2011-12-22 12:27:23

roijac wrote:
you can't compile python into machine code

you can, you just need an external application.

midnightleopard · 2011-12-22 15:58:24

All seriousness, someone competent please answer my question.

bobbybee · 2011-12-22 16:15:13

In short, you can't. DLLs are files that are specific to Windows. Python can be run on Windows, Mac, even Linux. You would have to get a special compiler that is able to compile python into machine language. This is no simple task, and I do not know whether such a compiler exists. Even if one does, you would still have a better, easier, more efficient, and more capable approach if you just wrote one in C or C# (C sharp)

-bobbybee

midnightleopard · 2011-12-22 18:32:33

I can make it with C, who even cares. I just want to know how to INTERFACE DLLS WITH SQUEAK.

bobbybee · 2011-12-22 19:45:01

In that case, I can't help you sad (and the picture is scary)

roijac · 2011-12-23 05:09:58

here you go

MathWizz · 2011-12-23 10:13:25

bobbybee wrote:
The picture is scary.

jimmyscratchlab · 2011-12-23 13:49:57

FFI, the Squeak Foreign Function Interface, is used to call functions located in shared libraries that are not part of the Squeak VM nor its plugins.
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1414

midnightleopard · 2011-12-23 16:56:53

jimmyscratchlab wrote:
FFI, the Squeak Foreign Function Interface, is used to call functions located in shared libraries that are not part of the Squeak VM nor its plugins.
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1414

roijac wrote:
here you go

Finally. Thank you.

jimmyscratchlab · 2012-01-03 14:20:11

My FFI(Foreign Function Interface) testing
http://jimmyscratchlab.blogspot.com/201 … ltalk.html

Daffy22 · 2012-01-03 14:57:19

bobbybee wrote:
In short, you can't. DLLs are files that are specific to Windows. Python can be run on Windows, Mac, even Linux. You would have to get a special compiler that is able to compile python into machine language. This is no simple task, and I do not know whether such a compiler exists. Even if one does, you would still have a better, easier, more efficient, and more capable approach if you just wrote one in C or C# (C sharp)

-bobbybee

Or VB smile

bobbybee · 2012-01-03 18:36:04

DAFFY22!!! Seriously, though smile

Daffy22 · 2012-01-04 03:16:12

bobbybee wrote:
DAFFY22!!! Seriously, though

Vb and c# are very similar languages. I learnt vb by learning c# first. smile

midnightleopard · 2012-01-04 17:56:56

jimmyscratchlab wrote:
My FFI(Foreign Function Interface) testing
http://jimmyscratchlab.blogspot.com/201 … ltalk.html

never thought a weird website in Chinese could be so helpful.

roijac · 2012-01-05 15:55:55

well, i got it ^^
stop being so annoying

bbbeb · 2012-01-05 16:06:38

bobbybee wrote:
In short, you can't. DLLs are files that are specific to Windows. Python can be run on Windows, Mac, even Linux. You would have to get a special compiler that is able to compile python into machine language. This is no simple task, and I do not know whether such a compiler exists. Even if one does, you would still have a better, easier, more efficient, and more capable approach if you just wrote one in C or C# (C sharp)

-bobbybee

*loud breath*
NO.
USE C++ smile

bobbybee · 2012-01-05 16:12:46

B, C, C#, C++, Objective-C, Objective-C++, D, D++ -- eh, it's all the same.

midnightleopard · 2012-01-05 19:20:03

bobbybee wrote:
B, C, C#, C++, Objective-C, Objective-C++, D, D++ -- eh, it's all the same.

Don't try diving into C right after learning C++. They are surprisingly different, and I prefer C++. My extension will likely be written in C++.

Daffy22 · 2012-01-06 03:40:06

Or vb.net!! tongue
Joking, c++ is good because you could also compile it for macintosh. So more scratchers will be able to use it. smile

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bobbybee · 2012-01-06 06:37:21

I know, I just mentioned it because I learned C as my first (real) programming language.

asimov1981 · 2012-02-23 08:06:53

I have a similar Problem (with a existing dll), did you found a good Tutorial or something?

I didn't find the discussion if a dll shoulb be written in C++, C or whatever not so helpful in regard of the primal post.

Nathanator1416J · 2012-04-23 17:31:16

Really! I learned C# by learning VB!
But back to the point!
Its very simple to interface dlls with scratch/squeak.
Me and my friend are making a mod of scratch that imports a dll and uses each function and sub as a block. Anyone wanna help?

Nathanator1416J · 2012-04-23 17:33:23

If you want to, just email me at [email removed by moderator]

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