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#1 2011-12-20 19:10:37

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well, if you haven't heard, SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) and PIPA (Protect Intellectual Property Act) are internet censorship bills proposed by the US government. Companies that create things such as movies or music are hugely in favor of the acts, while major tech companies such as Google strongly oppose the bills as infringement of freedom of speech.

Even the people who CREATED the internet (man what I would pay to meet them  tongue ) released this letter telling how the bills would cut internet security and violate the constitution.




    We, the undersigned, have played various parts in building a network called the Internet. We wrote and debugged the software; we defined the standards and protocols that talk over that network. Many of us invented parts of it. We're just a little proud of the social and economic benefits that our project, the Internet, has brought with it.

    Last year, many of us wrote to you and your colleagues to warn about the proposed "COICA" copyright and censorship legislation. Today, we are writing again to reiterate our concerns about the SOPA and PIPA derivatives of last year's bill, that are under consideration in the House and Senate. In many respects, these proposals are worse than the one we were alarmed to read last year.

    If enacted, either of these bills will create an environment of tremendous fear and uncertainty for technological innovation, and seriously harm the credibility of the United States in its role as a steward of key Internet infrastructure. Regardless of recent amendments to SOPA, both bills will risk fragmenting the Internet's global domain name system (DNS) and have other capricious technical consequences. In exchange for this, such legislation would engender censorship that will simultaneously be circumvented by deliberate infringers while hampering innocent parties' right and ability to communicate and express themselves online.

    All censorship schemes impact speech beyond the category they were intended to restrict, but these bills are particularly egregious in that regard because they cause entire domains to vanish from the Web, not just infringing pages or files. Worse, an incredible range of useful, law-abiding sites can be blacklisted under these proposals. In fact, it seems that this has already begun to happen under the nascent DHS/ICE seizures program.

    Censorship of Internet infrastructure will inevitably cause network errors and security problems. This is true in China, Iran and other countries that censor the network today; it will be just as true of American censorship. It is also true regardless of whether censorship is implemented via the DNS, proxies, firewalls, or any other method. Types of network errors and insecurity that we wrestle with today will become more widespread, and will affect sites other than those blacklisted by the American government.

    The current bills — SOPA explicitly and PIPA implicitly — also threaten engineers who build Internet systems or offer services that are not readily and automatically compliant with censorship actions by the U.S. government. When we designed the Internet the first time, our priorities were reliability, robustness and minimizing central points of failure or control. We are alarmed that Congress is so close to mandating censorship-compliance as a design requirement for new Internet innovations. This can only damage the security of the network, and give authoritarian governments more power over what their citizens can read and publish.

    The US government has regularly claimed that it supports a free and open Internet, both domestically and abroad. We cannot have a free and open Internet unless its naming and routing systems sit above the political concerns and objectives of any one government or industry. To date, the leading role the US has played in this infrastructure has been fairly uncontroversial because America is seen as a trustworthy arbiter and a neutral bastion of free expression. If the US begins to use its central position in the network for censorship that advances its political and economic agenda, the consequences will be far-reaching and destructive.

    Senators, Congressmen, we believe the Internet is too important and too valuable to be endangered in this way, and implore you to put these bills aside.


[END OF LETTER]

What are your fears about the SOPA/PIPA bills? This blog post has an extremely accurate view of how people who have no clue what they're doing should NOT be regulating the internet.


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#2 2011-12-20 19:17:37

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Awesome. Internet makers said that?


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#3 2011-12-20 19:20:07

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fg123 wrote:

Awesome. Internet makers said that?

Yeah.

Also, our friends at Anonymous are at work, yesterday they began #OpBlackout in response to SOPA.
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#4 2011-12-20 19:26:35

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Oh god. Wasn't anonymous that group of people that attacked stuff or something?

Right, DDOS attacks.

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#5 2011-12-20 19:33:06

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fg123 wrote:

Oh god. Wasn't anonymous that group of people that attacked stuff or something?

Right, DDOS attacks.

I actually respect Anon, to be honest. Unfortunately it just happens to be "illegal" to DDoS web sites.  tongue


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#6 2011-12-20 20:30:54

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I respect Anons as well. They're not all hacktivists. They're PEOPLE.
And they didn't hack PSN that was LulzSec


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#7 2011-12-20 21:01:35

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They wont let me link to a YouTube video?


Challenge accepted, Congress


Those old farts at congress actually ADMITTED that they don't know about a thing they say, and yet they continue on.


I bet they think This is new.


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#8 2011-12-22 15:21:27

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In short, the U.S. government is being idiotic. They haven't the slightest idea what they're dealing with, yet they want to be in charge of it anyway.

If you watch TotalHalibut on YouTube, he made the best analogy;
"It's like putting toddlers at the controls of every aircraft in the world."

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#9 2012-01-14 18:07:05

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As most of you have heard, both the house and senate are proposing various bills. The goal of all of these is to censor the internet, creating a system like the ones in place in China, Syria, and Korea.

I have made a petition, and I encourage you all to sign it.

Some more information

I have also proposed that Scratch be temporarily shut down, to protest the bills. More info at my topic.

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#10 2012-01-14 18:12:11

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PIPA?

What's a PIPA?

It doesn't seem to be explained on the page you linked to.


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#11 2012-01-14 18:12:39

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This is so anti-constitutional it isn't even funny.


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#12 2012-01-14 18:14:18

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videogame9 wrote:

PIPA?

What's a PIPA?

It doesn't seem to be explained on the page you linked to.

PIPA is SOPA, but with a few changes.

@soup: I know! It's ridiculous.


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#13 2012-01-14 18:16:25

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I would sign, but it asks for too much personal info.


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#14 2012-01-14 18:18:24

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It does? Such as...


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#15 2012-01-14 18:19:06

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waveOSBeta wrote:

It does? Such as...

First & Last name, city, state, e-mail, zip code, etc.


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#16 2012-01-14 18:20:34

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Well I put fake info
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#17 2012-01-14 18:21:13

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Daroach1 wrote:

waveOSBeta wrote:

It does? Such as...

First & Last name, city, state, e-mail, zip code, etc.

Let me see if I can change that...


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#18 2012-01-14 18:22:24

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Daroach1 wrote:

I would sign, but it asks for too much personal info.

Same.


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#19 2012-01-14 18:24:15

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Don't forget NDAA. That's also a horrible law. Unfortunately, it's already passed.


How is it bad? it gives the government permission to give US citizens indefinite detention for any reason at all. Heck, me writing this gives me potential to be sent to Camp X-ray.

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#20 2012-01-14 18:30:14

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There, I got a new petition URL.

Sign!  big_smile

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#21 2012-01-14 18:42:33

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#22 2012-01-14 18:50:00

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They arrested an English guy for SOPA, despit (a) SOPA hasn't passed yet and (b) it's not illegal in England (yet).
Also, Time Warner and Disney and those people distributed that software.


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#23 2012-01-14 19:16:41

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Lubla Croonyhead has signed the petition.


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#24 2012-01-14 19:21:18

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cheddargirl wrote:

I saw this Facebook event where everyone is going to upload fake censor pics on their profile to make it look like some albums and wall images are blocked by SOPA or PIPA. I was planning to do something similar with uploading a Scratch project that looks like it's censored by SOPA or PIPA... imagine if on that day the Top Loved/Remixed/Viewed rows were filled with these images instead of your run-of-the-mill Scratch thumbnail to get the word out.

isnt this a great idea?
who else is going to do it?

also
make your user images that
if you support

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#25 2012-01-14 19:23:04

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I agree. But, I will need you guys' help to get it front paged if I make it.


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