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Kids don't really have good judgment. Like, at all. You might do something stupid and regret it for your entire life. Or, you might do nothing and end up being a sad and miserable person. My point is, sometimes you need the opinion of someone who's been alive for years longer than you have.

Last edited by Earthboundjeff (2011-12-09 16:59:00)

The_Dancing_Donut wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

The_Dancing_Donut wrote:

My parents always say 'you can tell us anything & we'll sort it' but when I told my mom about 5 years ago she came to school with me and SPOKE to the bully, next day I was 'Mommy's Girl' and all that :L Made it waaaaaaay worse ><

The nasty girl in my class tends to shut up when everyone gangs up on her...

That happened to me, too, I did get a lot of flack about that, but my mom kept pushing on about it, which finally did something to get the girl to stop. It sure worked a lot better than everyone having to gang up all the time. Again, still better than not telling an adult at all.

True... and what I've noticed is that it's always the smarter, less chavvy kids that get picked on here. :c Shame really, specially when the smarter 'nerds' stop trying at school just in order to fit in. :s

Kind of reminds me of neurobotic scientist Yoky Matsuoka's story, where she tried to fit in school and pretended to stop being interested in math and science, thinking that being an "airhead" would get her more friends. Her story:

Whenever I received an award, whether it's a science award or a math award, my friends would come over and say, "You got an award, so you are smart?" And then I would say, "No, no. That's just a mistake. I don't know anything about it. I don't know what they're thinking, but since they're going to give me an award, I'll just take it."

It sounded like a geek or a nerd. And I just didn't want to be that. As girls, we all wanted to be accepted as pretty girls or athletic girls, not the science girls or math girls. If people perceived me as an airhead, then that gained my popularity; I get to have cool friends...


... I had to put a nametag and it says "Hello my name is," and I was supposed to put "Yoky" on it. But I thought it would be really cool if I put "Airhead." I looked around at everybody's faces, and I didn't see all positive like, "Yeah, girl. Go girl!"

My advisor, Rod Brooks, came and, basically, pulled me on the side and said, "Look, Yoky. This is not going well. Stop acting like an airhead. It's not going to take you far, as long as you're acting this way." And that's the day that it really hit me hard and I thought, "Wow. Now I understand. Okay, I'm going to stop doing this. Acting airhead is not the right dual life that I should be living in anymore." That was one of the few turning points in my life.

(want to know more on Yoky Matsuoka's story? You can read it here)

I think for the "nerds" they need to be told not to dumb themselves down or give off a dumbed look, because it will really gets them nowhere.

Earthboundjeff wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

The_Dancing_Donut wrote:

I can relate totally. It sounds so shallow but I'd rather dumb myself down or appear to be stupider than I am rather than get picked on. Sad but true for lots of people, I'm sure. :'c

@Jeff: Aww :L No kidding, lots of us here in Misc. have stuff in common...
I have mild bipolar, depression, done stuff I've mentioned before out of pure self-hate, have a weird family set-up, I hate myself for how I look, I'm easy to pick on because I'm generally odd but kind to everyone, and I'm into weird music and stuff...

[/self-pity]

So yeah. We're in this together :')

I am proud of the fact that I'm a nerd.  If someone starts bullying me for it(even though my state recently passed a really strict bullying law), I'm not going to act dumb.  I promise.


Sometimes, I think you need just you and your buddies to sort out problems.  Adults can't solve everything for you.

Kids don't really have good judgment. Like, at all. You might do something stupid and regret it for your entire life. Or, you might do nothing and end up being a sad and miserable person. My point is, sometimes you need the opinion of someone who's been alive for years longer than you have.

Yeah, but what I think is that while adult advice is good, it isn't law and it you need to sometimes make decisions and think for yourself.
By 'kids' how old do you mean?  Cause I'm 13 and I'm wondering if that counts as us not having good judgement.  (Actually, some of us don't, and I'm sure of it.  I mean the smart 1/3 of us.)

PlutoIsHades wrote:

Earthboundjeff wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

I am proud of the fact that I'm a nerd.  If someone starts bullying me for it(even though my state recently passed a really strict bullying law), I'm not going to act dumb.  I promise.


Sometimes, I think you need just you and your buddies to sort out problems.  Adults can't solve everything for you.

Kids don't really have good judgment. Like, at all. You might do something stupid and regret it for your entire life. Or, you might do nothing and end up being a sad and miserable person. My point is, sometimes you need the opinion of someone who's been alive for years longer than you have.

Yeah, but what I think is that while adult advice is good, it isn't law and it you need to sometimes make decisions and think for yourself.
By 'kids' how old do you mean?  Cause I'm 13 and I'm wondering if that counts as us not having good judgement.  (Actually, some of us don't, and I'm sure of it.  I mean the smart 1/3 of us.)

I think that adults don't really understand kids or bullies of our age. They assume that if you 'ignore them' then it'll be solved like magic. Don't they realise that we're not that thick, and that we already tried that before? :L


@cheddar: I read that... it was kind-of inspirational ._. Thanks for the link ^_^

Eh, most adults themselves were bullied at one point in their lives. If you can really make them see what your going through and that you feel exactly how they did, nine times out of ten they'll do anything they can to help you.

You have a good point. What I think is that the solution should be both standing up for yourself and getting adult help.

cheddargirl wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

Earthboundjeff wrote:

Kids don't really have good judgment. Like, at all. You might do something stupid and regret it for your entire life. Or, you might do nothing and end up being a sad and miserable person. My point is, sometimes you need the opinion of someone who's been alive for years longer than you have.

Yeah, but what I think is that while adult advice is good, it isn't law and it you need to sometimes make decisions and think for yourself.

Actually, some areas have anti-bullying laws in place where action is required. so there are cases where it is part of the law. This site seems to have a general info about such laws in the U.S., and if your area doesn't have one, maybe you can get support to start one.

And as much as we do make decision by ourselves, dealing with bullying alone or simply asking peers for help isn't good either. It's still always a good idea to tell a trusted adult who will help to take action on the situation.

I live in NJ, which has recently passed a stunningly harsh anti-bullying law.

Earthboundjeff wrote:

You have a good point. What I think is that the solution should be both standing up for yourself and getting adult help.

It's hard, 'cos some parents get stuck into it and make it worse, yet handling it by yourself is hard too! D:

This is why bullying is as serious as it is O:

@Pluto: I really wanna live in NJ... Belleville, specifically. ;_;

The_Dancing_Donut wrote:

Earthboundjeff wrote:

You have a good point. What I think is that the solution should be both standing up for yourself and getting adult help.

It's hard, 'cos some parents get stuck into it and make it worse, yet handling it by yourself is hard too! D:

This is why bullying is as serious as it is O:

@Pluto: I really wanna live in NJ... Belleville, specifically. ;_;

Sadly, that's not my town. 

NJ is nice. 



*bullies the 60-second-rule to heck and back*

@donut

Tell the principal, then just ignore him. If I Were you, I Would scream at his face "YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!", and that IS The truth.

RedRocker227 wrote:

The_Dancing_Donut wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

That happened to me, too, I did get a lot of flack about that, but my mom kept pushing on about it, which finally did something to get the girl to stop. It sure worked a lot better than everyone having to gang up all the time. Again, still better than not telling an adult at all.

True... and what I've noticed is that it's always the smarter, less chavvy kids that get picked on here. :c Shame really, specially when the smarter 'nerds' stop trying at school just in order to fit in. :s

Sort of what I do. I pretend to be dumber than I actually am just so I don't get called a nerd or a dork etc. :c I used to get called that by almost the whole class >.>

That is so, so mean!
You know what I do with bullies?
Give them the Look.
It's a You're-not-cool-and-you're-really-weird-and-you-better-watch-your-back-because-something-bad-is-gonna-happen-to-you-soon.
c:
Often times they don't notice, but when they do, they shut up.
I'm kind of skinny, so sometimes people kinda pick on me. It doesn't bother me, though.
Stupid person: Why are you so skinny?
Me: At least I'm not fat *Looks at person talking to me like they are fat*
Stupid person: But-but-you're so skinny!
Me: When I get older, I be much more fit than you.  It's because I don't eat Burger King and McDonald's like you. It's mostly because I eat healthy food. Did you know healthy food keeps you thin?
Stupid person: ...
Me: c:
I know you said that you act dumber to not get picked on, but I actually act cleverer to outsmart them, and then they look stupid. It works pretty well.