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#1 2011-11-24 11:05:49

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Tiger Development Thread

Yes, another mod
I am interested in making a Scratch modification called Tiger.  It will have two versions: Premium, First-Class, and Simplified.  Premium is a Panther mod, First-Class is a BYOB mod, and Simplified is a normal Scratch mod.  The difference is Premium is more for advanced programmers, First-Class is for those who use BYOB and would like more features, and Simplified is directed at those who are using mods for the first time..  I will attempt to include first-class data in Premium once Panther 1.1 comes out.

My ideas:
There will be new blocks, such as import image at (), create file at (), write () to file at (), FTP to server () with user () and password (), and some others.
Note: Some blocks will be exclusive to higher level mods.  Anything added to Simplified, however, will be added to Premium and First-Class, anything added to First-Class will be added to Premium*, but not everything added to Premium will be added to the others.
The ability to recognize audio formats other than MP3 and WAV.
Read compressed video files
Compile to .exe
Compile to .app
Need Mac OS X programmer
Plugins and plugin manager for interaction with third-party programs

Members:
Lead Programmer/Windows tester: SJRCS_011
Mac tester: muppetds
Mac programmer: bobbybee


*: not including First-Class data support

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#2 2011-11-24 12:12:46

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

Sounds cool!


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#3 2011-11-24 17:21:13

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

Yeah.  It'll take a while, though.


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#4 2011-11-25 08:11:05

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

Sounds cool.  One thing though, as far as I know, you couldn't compile it for the iOS.


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#5 2011-11-25 08:12:07

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

I can test on linux.

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#6 2011-11-25 08:48:50

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

gbear605 wrote:

Sounds cool.  One thing though, as far as I know, you couldn't compile it for the iOS.

For iOS? Good luck!!
Also, What makes your mod different from Panther/Byob/All the other mods? because if your mod is just like everyone else's nobody will want to use it.

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#7 2011-11-25 10:31:59

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

I'm fine if no one wants to use it.  The goal of this is to help myself learn Squeak.
If no one wants to use it, I'm fine with that.


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#8 2011-11-25 11:12:19

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

SJRCS_011 wrote:

I'm fine if no one wants to use it.  The goal of this is to help myself learn Squeak.
If no one wants to use it, I'm fine with that.

Great attitude!
smile


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#9 2012-01-10 19:43:08

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

Bump


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#10 2012-01-10 20:02:49

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

Do you want Tiger to be in Modcamp? It sounds like a great mod.


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#11 2012-01-10 20:21:15

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

GP1 wrote:

Do you want Tiger to be in Modcamp? It sounds like a great mod.

Sure.  Just give me some time to make it.
BTW, would you like Kitcat to be included in Mod Play?  It's a website in development by me and the AANS collab, and it will feature custom Java players for each mod.
(You have to pre-register, though.  I already am including some major ones, but I was wondering if you want Kitcat in it)

Hehehehe...as for being a great mod, I'm hoping it will be the next Panther/BYOB/Bingo/Kitcat.

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#12 2012-01-10 20:44:11

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

SJRCS_011 wrote:

GP1 wrote:

Do you want Tiger to be in Modcamp? It sounds like a great mod.

Sure.  Just give me some time to make it.
BTW, would you like Kitcat to be included in Mod Play?  It's a website in development by me and the AANS collab, and it will feature custom Java players for each mod.
(You have to pre-register, though.  I already am including some major ones, but I was wondering if you want Kitcat in it)

Hehehehe...as for being a great mod, I'm hoping it will be the next Panther/BYOB/Bingo/Kitcat.

Sure, I've been looking for something like Mod Play. If it won't be done for a while, then that would give me some time to get Kitcat 1.3 out. In the java player, you dont have to add Modcamp, those will just be individual mods, but I will have more blocks, if your java player can handle my WWM.


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#13 2012-01-11 18:03:54

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

I'll have to talk to TheSuccessor - he's the one making the Java Players (I'm hiring him using Dev Dollars from Mod Central because I don't yet have a Java editor  sad  )


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#14 2012-01-11 18:26:22

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

Hey this sounds like a great project  smile  I'll see if I can at least make panther 1.0.5 available for download soon since development has pretty much stopped. It works very well, it's just not perfectly backward compatible with 1.0.

It's pretty cool that you're modding mods though, good job, I shall follow this with interest  smile


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#15 2012-01-11 18:30:16

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

What audio formats do you plan on doing?
I'd recommend MIDI, AAC, and FLAC. Anything else is probably either excessive or illegal  tongue


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#16 2012-01-11 18:41:18

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

Yeah, that probably won't be available for a few version, though veggieman.

sparks wrote:

Hey this sounds like a great project  smile  I'll see if I can at least make panther 1.0.5 available for download soon since development has pretty much stopped. It works very well, it's just not perfectly backward compatible with 1.0.

It's pretty cool that you're modding mods though, good job, I shall follow this with interest  smile

Thanks.  I just had this idea to make several different mods - one of Panther (which I don't really think has been done before XD), one of BYOB (which has been done), and one normal Scratch mod, all grouped as one big group.

Anyone want to join the dev team?

Progress Report
Tiger Simplified will be saved as .tg, First-Class as .tgfc, and Premium as .tgp.
Tiger Simplified 0.1 Alpha should be available in about a month if all goes well.
First-Class 0.1 Alpha should be available in about two months.
There is no current timeline for the release of Tiger Premium.


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#17 2012-02-09 18:45:03

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

Progress Report #2

Archived
Tiger Simplified will be saved as .tg, First-Class as .tgfc, and Premium as .tgp.

A 0.1 pre-alpha release should be available in about another month for Simplified and two more months for First-Class due to outside issues (Mod Play site development, holidays, etc.)
A contest is currently going on at Mod Central to come up with a way to incorporate other audio formats.
Some File I/O will be available in First-Class and Simplified via the "Sensing" category.
In Premium, a block "HTTP POST [] to [http://]" may be available in v1.0  Automated "GET" requests will be available in 0.1 Premium.
These two blocks:

HTTP POST [] to [www.]
GET request to [www.] with variables [] >>
Some other possible blocks:
(User Home Path) //thanks to jvvg
FTP file [] to url [www.]  password [] and username []
Execute PHP command []
Execute ASP command []
Execute JavaScript []
<[variable v]> //Boolean variable
create array with (2 v) dimensions
host mesh //in pre-alpha
leave mesh //in pre-alpha
join mesh on IP () // in pre-alpha
Run text-Tiger commands [] //Probably not until at least 1.2, earlier for First-Class


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#18 2012-02-09 21:08:18

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

I know how to program this block! (except its a c-block  tongue  )

connect to FTP server with host [ ] username [ ] and password [ ]
This will require server side scripting, and I am conserned about security.
Anyway, have three world variables to hold the host user and pass, then have all blocks inside it use php scripts (or ASP) for FTP commands. Then after the block is done, delete the FTP info. Ill get a working script up soon (it definitly will be in Kitcat 1.3 )

Last edited by GP1 (2012-02-09 21:09:48)


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#19 2012-02-09 21:39:56

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

GP1 wrote:

I know how to program this block! (except its a c-block  tongue  )

connect to FTP server with host [ ] username [ ] and password [ ]
This will require server side scripting, and I am conserned about security.
Anyway, have three world variables to hold the host user and pass, then have all blocks inside it use php scripts (or ASP) for FTP commands. Then after the block is done, delete the FTP info. Ill get a working script up soon (it definitly will be in Kitcat 1.3 )

I could use some sort of random encryption that also passes a hashed key to the server to tell what encryption was used so you can decrypt the message, password, and username.

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#20 2012-02-09 21:55:54

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

SJRCS_011 wrote:

GP1 wrote:

I know how to program this block! (except its a c-block  tongue  )

connect to FTP server with host [ ] username [ ] and password [ ]
This will require server side scripting, and I am conserned about security.
Anyway, have three world variables to hold the host user and pass, then have all blocks inside it use php scripts (or ASP) for FTP commands. Then after the block is done, delete the FTP info. Ill get a working script up soon (it definitly will be in Kitcat 1.3 )

I could use some sort of random encryption that also passes a hashed key to the server to tell what encryption was used so you can decrypt the message, password, and username.

That would work!


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#21 2012-02-16 00:58:05

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

Bump!
When is a beta or alpha or ANYTHING going to be out? I'm programming Modcamp now.


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#22 2012-02-16 04:20:52

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

I can be a mac tester


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#23 2012-02-16 07:27:39

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

GP1 wrote:

Bump!
When is a beta or alpha or ANYTHING going to be out? I'm programming Modcamp now.

0.1 pre-alpha should be out soon.
I have a lot that I'm working on right now; this is sort of low on my priority list.

Go ahead and make modcamp without tiger,  I'll try to get it in a later version if possible.

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#24 2012-02-16 18:13:12

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

SJRCS_011 wrote:

GP1 wrote:

Bump!
When is a beta or alpha or ANYTHING going to be out? I'm programming Modcamp now.

0.1 pre-alpha should be out soon.
I have a lot that I'm working on right now; this is sort of low on my priority list.

Go ahead and make modcamp without tiger,  I'll try to get it in a later version if possible.

Kitcat has an auto-updator,so I can make an update.


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#25 2012-02-16 18:41:48

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Re: Tiger Development Thread

I can be a mac programmer.


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