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SeptimusHeap · 2011-11-19 14:01:38

My teacher is thinking of starting an app making club, but where do I get started?

(yes, stevetheipad, I'm taking to you, mainly)

stevetheipad · 2011-11-19 14:43:08

Hey, septimus! Learning Objective-C is not easy! However, there Are ways to start. I suggest you start by paying $99 to become a registered apple developer. You can also set it up so your account is a "team" where all members of your club have their own account.

But you also need to learn objective c. Again, it takes forever to learn it and is super hard to start.

If your app club thinks of an idea for an app, i would be happy to help you get your idea in the app store.

SeptimusHeap · 2011-11-19 14:58:17

stevetheipad wrote:
Hey, septimus! Learning Objective-C is not easy! However, there Are ways to start. I suggest you start by paying $99 to become a registered apple developer. You can also set it up so your account is a "team" where all members of your club have their own account.

But you also need to learn objective c. Again, it takes forever to learn it and is super hard to start.

If your app club thinks of an idea for an app, i would be happy to help you get your idea in the app store.

Less of a team, more of a club.

Anyway, I've done some:
Java
Javascript
VB
HTML
PHP
Scratch (duh...)
A bit o' other stuff.

agscratcher · 2011-11-19 15:04:00

If you jailbreak an iOS device, you can run Java.

stevetheipad · 2011-11-19 16:18:34

SeptimusHeap wrote:
stevetheipad wrote:
Hey, septimus! Learning Objective-C is not easy! However, there Are ways to start. I suggest you start by paying $99 to become a registered apple developer. You can also set it up so your account is a "team" where all members of your club have their own account.

But you also need to learn objective c. Again, it takes forever to learn it and is super hard to start.

If your app club thinks of an idea for an app, i would be happy to help you get your idea in the app store.
Less of a team, more of a club.

Anyway, I've done some:
Java
Javascript
VB
HTML
PHP
Scratch (duh...)
A bit o' other stuff.

I still think you should sign up for an account, even if it is $99.

If you feel confident, I enourage you to jump in and try Objective-C.

SeptimusHeap · 2011-11-19 16:26:43

stevetheipad wrote:
SeptimusHeap wrote:
stevetheipad wrote:
Hey, septimus! Learning Objective-C is not easy! However, there Are ways to start. I suggest you start by paying $99 to become a registered apple developer. You can also set it up so your account is a "team" where all members of your club have their own account.

But you also need to learn objective c. Again, it takes forever to learn it and is super hard to start.

If your app club thinks of an idea for an app, i would be happy to help you get your idea in the app store.
Less of a team, more of a club.

Anyway, I've done some:
Java
Javascript
VB
HTML
PHP
Scratch (duh...)
A bit o' other stuff.
I still think you should sign up for an account, even if it is $99.

If you feel confident, I enourage you to jump in and try Objective-C.

Any tuts?

Anyway, I think I'll make the app, and if it's worth a buck, then pay the fee and sell it.
How many sales have you gotten on your apps?

awesomestickdude · 2011-11-19 16:42:14

If you want to learn objective-c I highly recommend you watch this guys tutorials. If there anywhere as good as his udk ones your going to learn a lot at a good pace.

SeptimusHeap · 2011-11-22 19:39:36

Let me get this straight: It's 99$ to test your apps on an iOS device, and an additional $99 a year to publish them??

SJRCS_011 · 2011-11-22 19:44:32

Apple Developer is now only $9 per OS you want to work with (iOS, Mac OSX, and Safari)

kayybee · 2011-11-22 19:51:59

I'm pretty sure it's still $99.

$99 per year

I'm pretty sure apple doesn't lie about it's programs.

SeptimusHeap · 2011-11-22 20:00:18

kayybee wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's still $99.

$99 per year

I'm pretty sure apple doesn't lie about it's programs.

It's $99 to test apps using the security cirtificate on an ios device, or else you need the simulator. It's $99 a year to publish them.

maxskywalker · 2011-11-22 20:02:45

Everyone says that Objective-C is really complicated. I say differently. I learned Objective-C from Lynda (lynda.com), which is what I suggest. It doesn't include Cocoa or Cocoa Touch, but there are some really good Cocoa tutorials (under iOS), and iOS Cocoa is pretty much the same thing as Mac OS X Cocoa.

SeptimusHeap · 2011-11-22 20:04:39

Ok, but, is it free to register as an apple developer and make apps, but not test them on an actual device or sell them?

maxskywalker · 2011-11-22 21:26:42

SeptimusHeap wrote:
Let me get this straight: It's 99$ to test your apps on an iOS device, and an additional $99 a year to publish them??

No. Making an account is free. And it gives you access to everything else. To have any number of apps on the App Store, it's $99.

maxskywalker · 2011-11-22 21:28:03

SeptimusHeap wrote:
Ok, but, is it free to register as an apple developer and make apps, but not test them on an actual device or sell them?

Yes. I think it's also free to test them on a device.

16Skittles · 2011-11-22 21:35:33

Posting to make this a "bookmark", adding it to my profile for easy viewing.
I recently got an iPad from my school, etc., see my topic for info on that. I am an amateur programmer as well, and would like to create apps for iDevices. From what I see on Apple's web site, I need a paid apple dev account just to download XCode? It also says it's free for MacOS, could I install Hackintosh on a laptop to develop for free? I will NOT pay $99 just to TRY to create apps. hmm Jailbreaking is out of the question, the iPad is on loan from my school.

16Skittles · 2011-11-23 08:15:15

Wow, Apple, you have shown a new level of stupidity. You make ONLY people who have Macs pay you $99 every year? Why not everybody? I am disappoint apple.

maxskywalker · 2011-11-23 09:55:57

stevetheipad wrote:
SeptimusHeap wrote:
stevetheipad wrote:
Hey, septimus! Learning Objective-C is not easy! However, there Are ways to start. I suggest you start by paying $99 to become a registered apple developer. You can also set it up so your account is a "team" where all members of your club have their own account.

But you also need to learn objective c. Again, it takes forever to learn it and is super hard to start.

If your app club thinks of an idea for an app, i would be happy to help you get your idea in the app store.
Less of a team, more of a club.

Anyway, I've done some:
Java
Javascript
VB
HTML
PHP
Scratch (duh...)
A bit o' other stuff.
I still think you should sign up for an account, even if it is $99.

If you feel confident, I enourage you to jump in and try Objective-C.

No. It's free to make an account. Just $99 for any number of apps on the app store.

maxskywalker · 2011-11-23 10:00:29

16Skittles wrote:
Posting to make this a "bookmark", adding it to my profile for easy viewing.
I recently got an iPad from my school, etc., see my topic for info on that. I am an amateur programmer as well, and would like to create apps for iDevices. From what I see on Apple's web site, I need a paid apple dev account just to download XCode? It also says it's free for MacOS, could I install Hackintosh on a laptop to develop for free? I will NOT pay $99 just to TRY to create apps. Jailbreaking is out of the question, the iPad is on loan from my school.

Don't worry. Making an account is free. I HAVE an account. It's free. When it comes time to put something on the App Store (when it's finished; testing is also free), only then do you have to pay $99. And $99 for any number of apps. If you have 33 apps, it's still $99. If you have 99 apps, it's still $99. If you have 390193289591835791745810935105810935039815082539801825 apps, it's still $99. Also, if you have a Mac, Xcode is free in the App Store. It should also be free on the website, but you might only be able to see the download if you have an account. Just make an account, and see if it asks your credit card number. It won't.

maxskywalker · 2011-11-23 10:03:22

SeptimusHeap wrote:
Ok, but, is it free to register as an apple developer and make apps, but not test them on an actual device or sell them?

Half-right. It's free to register and make apps, and as far as my knowledge goes (I haven't figured out how to do it; I think it's pretty easy, and if I wasn't too lazy to plug in my iPad, it would be really easy) you can test your apps for free.

maxskywalker · 2011-11-23 10:04:44

SJRCS_011 wrote:
Apple Developer is now only $9 per OS you want to work with (iOS, Mac OSX, and Safari)

LOL not true. It's still $99.

16Skittles · 2011-11-23 17:45:53

OK I have a developer account, but I still cant use XCode on windows, now what do I do? does XCode work on linux? It MIGHT be enough to bring me back to Ubuntu.

maxskywalker · 2011-11-23 17:49:19

16Skittles wrote:
OK I have a developer account, but I still cant use XCode on windows, now what do I do? does XCode work on linux? It MIGHT be enough to bring me back to Ubuntu.

I actually think that you might need a Mac for it. Let me do some research.

Edit: Nope. You need a Mac. Install a VM.

Last edited by maxskywalker (2011-11-23 17:50:25)

16Skittles · 2011-11-23 17:57:27

I HATE MACS!!!
I'm just gonna use ECMAScript (Javascript, ECMAScript sounds more fancy and is the actual name tongue ) to make apps. EAT IT APPLE, YOU DON'T GET MY $99 or 30%!!! [/rage]

Edit: unless the VM and such is free, but I will NOT pay for an OS that I don't want AND app store ability, I'll quit wasting my money and develop an application that's CROSS PLATFORM and FREE to develop.

Last edited by 16Skittles (2011-11-23 17:58:44)

maxskywalker · 2011-11-23 18:20:05

16Skittles wrote:
I HATE MACS!!!
I'm just gonna use ECMAScript (Javascript, ECMAScript sounds more fancy and is the actual name ) to make apps. EAT IT APPLE, YOU DON'T GET MY $99 or 30%!!! [/rage]

Edit: unless the VM and such is free, but I will NOT pay for an OS that I don't want AND app store ability, I'll quit wasting my money and develop an application that's CROSS PLATFORM and FREE to develop.

I'm sure there's a free VM out there somewhere. Check for me.

Last edited by maxskywalker (2011-11-23 18:21:31)

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