Scratch

andresmh wrote:

I totally agree, vector graphics and anti-alising would make Scratch projects look a bit more polished. It's a lot of work and it might make Scratch a lot slower too, but it could be a nice thing to do.

Yeah, I guess it would make it a lot slower. Thanks for the input!

I think this is a great idea. But like Andresmh said, it might make scratch a bit slower, which isn't always a great thing. So I have another idea. You know how for some videos on youtube you can choose to high quality instead of normal quality (default)? Well on Scratch it would be a similar thing. There would be an option under a project next to Love it, Add to Favorites, ect.   saying High quality, and then it would reload the project with vector graphics. Though the option would only be their if the person who created the project has made the project able to do that.

How would you create vector graphics anyway? Would you have just more tinier pixels to work with?

Maybe vector images is a big step...

We could have an automatic Anti-Aliasing function when we click OK in the paint editor?

And maybe only for the background - resizing an anti aliased image is not that good idea.

Vectors could be a nice leap forward!

Lucario621 wrote:

You know how for some videos on youtube you can choose to high quality instead of normal quality (default)? Well on Scratch it would be a similar thing. There would be an option under a project next to Love it, Add to Favorites, ect.   saying High quality, and then it would reload the project with vector graphics. Though the option would only be their if the person who created the project has made the project able to do that.

This wont easily be possible. The only reason the Youtube player can do that is because its flash, which already is vector based. Vectors work completly diffrently to bitmaps. Vectors, instead of having info of every pixel, has information about (EG) a line in general, and uses maths to calculate its curv, ect... For this reason, for the diffrent qualitys (one vector one bitmap) the author will need to projects, one made with pixels, another made with vectors.
However because the way vectors work (not containing info about every single pixel) it has infact a smaller file size, and should therefore speed things up instead of slow down.

Only POSSIBALE downside is that i beleave vectors cannot use colour sencing (however im very unsure about this).

Oh well...*sigh*

I recently stumbled upon what could be considered a Scratch knock-off called Microsoft Popfly that uses the Silverlight engine and lets you create Flash-like games with vector graphics. It's actually very complex, although I find that there's too much navigating through menus and not enough actual programming to fit my "needs". It does come with a lot of fancy sprites (called Actors), but it won't let you draw your own yet. Popfly i's specifically designed for making games, and there are built-in variables like "score" and actions built in for winning and losing, so don't expect to build an open-ended RPG with it. On the plus side: It's free and online, it's simple to use, it's got a scary-powerful debugger/analyzer, and if you know Javascript you can hack it. On the minus side: It's not nearly as open-ended as Scratch, and it's from Microsoft.

fullmoon wrote:

I recently stumbled upon what could be considered a Scratch knock-off called Microsoft Popfly that uses the Silverlight engine and lets you create Flash-like games with vector graphics. It's actually very complex, although I find that there's too much navigating through menus and not enough actual programming to fit my "needs". It does come with a lot of fancy sprites (called Actors), but it won't let you draw your own yet. Popfly i's specifically designed for making games, and there are built-in variables like "score" and actions built in for winning and losing, so don't expect to build an open-ended RPG with it. On the plus side: It's free and online, it's simple to use, it's got a scary-powerful debugger/analyzer, and if you know Javascript you can hack it. On the minus side: It's not nearly as open-ended as Scratch, and it's from Microsoft.

Wow, popfly seems  a lot like scratch. I am going to try it out.

archmage wrote:

fullmoon wrote:

I recently stumbled upon what could be considered a Scratch knock-off called Microsoft Popfly that uses the Silverlight engine and lets you create Flash-like games with vector graphics. It's actually very complex, although I find that there's too much navigating through menus and not enough actual programming to fit my "needs". It does come with a lot of fancy sprites (called Actors), but it won't let you draw your own yet. Popfly i's specifically designed for making games, and there are built-in variables like "score" and actions built in for winning and losing, so don't expect to build an open-ended RPG with it. On the plus side: It's free and online, it's simple to use, it's got a scary-powerful debugger/analyzer, and if you know Javascript you can hack it. On the minus side: It's not nearly as open-ended as Scratch, and it's from Microsoft.

Wow, popfly seems  a lot like scratch. I am going to try it out.

Wow, I really love that popfly program. You don't actually download it, you install Microsoft's silverlight and you can run the program creator from the background. In the creator program, you can either change the way a sprite preforms by changing its "behaviors" as Microsoft calls them. The behavior editor is a lot like the programming tool in game maker, you tell it to preform an action and you give it the details on how to preform the actions. There is also a way to program with raw code (the language is a lot like actionscript and java). It seems to be a lot more powerful than scratch, but some people may prefer scratch's unique way of programming.

In short, popfly is cool.