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PlutoIsHades wrote:

calebxy wrote:

brettman98 wrote:

woops, haven't visited this thread in forever.
I believe your opinion is wrong, but not because it differs from mine. I believe it is wrong because it involves pleasure at reading about violence.

To be completely honest, violent books can be exciting to read, but they're not funny, they're not happy, and they're not wholesome. You aren't a bad person, it's just that I don't like violence 

I doubt they enjoy reading sword fights because they are sadistic. Rather, they almost certainly like it because it's exciting.

Yeah.  Plus, not much is exciting if everything is happy and funny and rainbows.  Those can come after the fight, maybe if the good guy wins.
And to your comment about it not being wholesome, fighting IS important in life.  What's the point if there are no struggles, no arguments?

so you'd rather people fight than be perfectly at peace with each other?

PlutoIsHades wrote:

brettman98 wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

Yeah.  Plus, not much is exciting if everything is happy and funny and rainbows.  Those can come after the fight, maybe if the good guy wins.
And to your comment about it not being wholesome, fighting IS important in life.  What's the point if there are no struggles, no arguments?

so you'd rather people fight than be perfectly at peace with each other?

I don't mean every single neighbor feuding with one another.  I mean arguments and disagreements and few-people fights, and OCCASIONAL huge fights to remind us not to be cocky or overly-confident of ourselves.

that's horrible 
if the world didn't fight, we would have peace.
If we had peace, we wouldn't have to worry about war and would start focusing on,
oh, i don't know, curing cancer or something?

brettman98 wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

calebxy wrote:

I doubt they enjoy reading sword fights because they are sadistic. Rather, they almost certainly like it because it's exciting.

Yeah.  Plus, not much is exciting if everything is happy and funny and rainbows.  Those can come after the fight, maybe if the good guy wins.
And to your comment about it not being wholesome, fighting IS important in life.  What's the point if there are no struggles, no arguments?

so you'd rather people fight than be perfectly at peace with each other?

What's the point in a story if there's no conflict for the heroes to overcome?

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Andres-Vander wrote:

PlutoIsHades wrote:

calebxy wrote:

What's the point in a story if there's no conflict for the heroes to overcome?

What's the point in LIFE if there are no struggles to overcome?

Gee I don't know, smooth sailing? I'd much rather have a life with no struggles than a life with, well, any struggles. Life doesn't need a point, there's no greater purpose to living.

Yes, I pretty much agree. But I think their point was that you generally feel a sense of happiness and accomplishment when you overcome a problem.

Here's a story I've read at school and just found on the Internet:

Once a little boy was playing outdoors and found a fascinating caterpillar. He carefully picked it up and took it home to show his mother. He asked his mother if he could keep it, and she said he could if he would take good care of it.
 
The little boy got a large jar from his mother and put plants to eat, and a stick to climb on, in the jar. Every day he watched the caterpillar and brought it new plants to eat.
 
One day the caterpillar climbed up the stick and started acting strangely. The boy worriedly called his mother who came and understood that the caterpillar was creating a cocoon. The mother explained to the boy how the caterpillar was going to go through a metamorphosis and become a butterfly.
 
The little boy was thrilled to hear about the changes his caterpillar would go through. He watched every day, waiting for the butterfly to emerge. One day it happened, a small hole appeared in the cocoon and the butterfly started to struggle to come out.
 
At first the boy was excited, but soon he became concerned. The butterfly was struggling so hard to get out! It looked like it couldn’t break free! It looked desperate! It looked like it was making no progress!
 
The boy was so concerned he decided to help. He ran to get scissors, and then walked back (because he had learned not to run with scissors…). He snipped the cocoon to make the hole bigger and the butterfly quickly emerged!
 
As the butterfly came out the boy was surprised. It had a swollen body and small, shriveled wings. He continued to watch the butterfly expecting that, at any moment, the wings would dry out, enlarge and expand to support the swollen body. He knew that in time the body would shrink and the butterfly’s wings would expand.
 
            But neither happened!
 
The butterfly spent the rest of its life crawling around with a swollen body and shriveled wings.
 
It never was able to fly…
 
As the boy tried to figure out what had gone wrong his mother took him to talk to a scientist from a local college. He learned that the butterfly was SUPPOSED to struggle. In fact, the butterfly’s struggle to push its way through the tiny opening of the cocoon pushes the fluid out of its body and into its wings. Without the struggle, the butterfly would never, ever fly. The boy’s good intentions hurt the butterfly.
 
 
As you go through school, and life, keep in mind that struggling is an important part of any growth experience. In fact, it is the struggle that causes you to develop your ability to fly.

calebxy wrote:

Andres-Vander wrote:

calebxy wrote:

Yes, I pretty much agree. But I think their point was that you generally feel a sense of happiness and accomplishment when you overcome a problem.

You generally do that? How do you know? Maybe you do but that doesn't mean others do

You aren't happy when you've overcome a problem?

I don't have problems