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Sorry to hear you were ill!
You're welcome to sing more of the parts that come after, I just did that bit so we could see how our voices sound together    You can record in as many parts as you like too as I'm sticking it together to finish with.

I honestly got stuck getting the wild times to sound right with the harmony so I look forward to seeing what you've come up with!

Obviously the song branches out for the chorus with three then four parts. In the first verse, there are three parts I think ,the main one, the harmony I recorded above and then a third one. For the life of me I can't work out the notes for that lower one? It might be the same as the harmony part but an octave lower, if that makes sense...

I've been romanced, dined and danced.
Crazy nights and wild times.
My life has lost it's mystery.
love is blind
and it cannot find me.

I'm blowing away
shadows take my love and leave
I'm blowing away
shadows keep taking my love
and leaving me.

Now I have cast aside, my foolish pride.
and I'm going down for the last time
and I've searched this earth
and I've sailed the sea
love it blind
and it cannot find me.

I'm blowing away
shadows take my love and leave
I'm blowing away
shadows keep taking my love
and leaving me.
They keep taking my love
and leaving me.

No, I mean, in the first verse, there are three vocal parts. The main part, the part I recorded above which is the harmony, and a third part which is quite quiet and lower than the main tune. I can't get a grip on the notes for it which makes me wonder if the third part is singing the same notes as the harmony I sent you, just lower...

Okay, cool.  I'm listening to it now... very loudly with headphones!    It seems to be not quite an octave to the harmony but is following the same pattern so if I can find one note I might manage to work it out from there? I'll see what I can do with the note blocks since I'm in the university library at the moment and I doubt I would get away with singing loudly into a mic... 

So we're agreed that the pattern is identical, though the key may not be? I've just finished writing the first verse main and harmony with Scratch note blocks so I'm about to try out adding a third part in a different key but with the same pattern as the harmony... if that makes sense...

sparks wrote:

So we're agreed that the pattern is identical, though the key may not be? I've just finished writing the first verse main and harmony with Scratch note blocks so I'm about to try out adding a third part in a different key but with the same pattern as the harmony... if that makes sense...

Yep, the key is different, the pattern is sorta similar... by the way, I just finished writing the third part in note blocks and I've uploaded it (link), so you can just use mine. I think it's quite accurate. ^^

sparks wrote:

actually, it's sounding pretty good if I put the part I'm now calling ??? as the same tune as the harmony, one octave lower! I'll send the midi in a sec when I'm done, see what you think 

Well, that makes sense - if the harmony sounds good with the main tune then I reckon it would still sound good one octave lower. xD

sparks wrote:

cripes! I nearly forgot about my lecture! I'll upload in a few hours!

Oh no! You're late? :S See you in a few hours then.

EDIT: In one of my previous messages I made a horrible typo which made me say that the melody patterns in the highest and lowest voices are "completely identical". There was supposed to be a "not" there. "^^

sparks wrote:

Hey that sounds pretty good! I'll see about putting it with the other part 

I wasn't late, thankfully, but got so engrossed in the Scratch note blocks, it was a near thing 

The part sounds great though, well done for working it out ^_^

Can't wait for your part to come through! I'm working on saturday though, so if you do the recording then, I won't be online to get it until the early evening.

Yay! xD Glad you liked it. I can try midificating the other verses if you like. 

sparks wrote:

No need. I've just done it. (link)

It sounds great with main and harmony, and main with undertone, but not all three together so one of us has gone wrong somewhere. Take a look, would you?    (The undertone is the one you sent me).

Yeah, it sounded a bit different from my MIDI of that verse. xD I listened to it and it seemed like just a few minor mistakes (and also that "and wild times part"  , which I fixed.

Looks like you included all those minor notes in your MIDI (I guess they're like pitch bends?) which I failed to recreate in Scratch. xD I changed the bassline to follow the pattern of your other voices to include its pitch bends.


There's an odd problem though - I can't upload the file.    Tells me that the file size exceeds 10MB (that's a lie  ). I've tried different things with no result, I'll try again tomorrow morning. If it doesn't work, I'm gonna post something in Troubleshooting.


EDIT: How did this suddenly get so many views? It was around 150 just yesterday... 

sparks wrote:

I've been looking angrily at the octaves too, as I said, 51 appears to be my lowest note, but if the centre of that keyboard is middle c, that can't be right, I'm pretty sure I'm an octave lower than that. In which case I'm either singing falsetto or we've got the midi in the wrong octave for my parts...

Well, try putting the MIDI an octave higher - that doesn't sound right to me.    Maybe the Scratch keyboard is wrong?

Try singing the bassline for the song as you hear it - can you go lower?

sparks wrote:

Isn't it almost 1AM in russia?

Exactly why I'm going to bed right now. xP

Ok, it's all good now and I've uploaded both your version with some fixed notes (link) and my own, which has none of those little side notes (link).

sparks wrote:

I'm ashamed to say that I can't sing the lowest note of the chorus. For the second part of the chorus a fourth vocal part joins in which is very low indeed. When originally working the part out I simply keyed the song about three notes higher by using a pitch change tool. So there are three options: raise the key of our recording, in which case you may struggle with the highest notes, re-write that lowest part so that it uses a note complimentary to the one I can't get or I can hang my head in shame and we'll find another bass to do that vocal part...

That's ok, I think we can try raising the key. Just upload the file when you change it so I can see if I can sing it. 

On a side note - we coincidentally used the same instrument for our MIDI's. Lol ^^

sparks wrote:

well, (5) electric piano IS an awesome instrument!

I'll take a look at that when I get home, though that may be later tonight as I'm probably going to be out partying a bit 

Ah, ok. Have fun! ^^

sparks wrote:

What parts am I singing? Obv. undertone but is the main part for you or me? Not sure which range might sound better...

Hmmm... I think it would definitely sound better with a male voice, but we can try it both ways if you like.

sparks wrote:

I can have a go at vocally recording the undertone tonight if I have a moment 

Yay! ^^