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AtomicBawm3 wrote:

Well...although I think this WILL turn into a flame war, I'll start it out with this question:

Did you guys know that there are two types of evolution?  Micro and Macro.

Micro has truly been proven (basically, it's a change in species in response to environment, like humans being larger in general than years back)

Macro is what most people consider evolution to mean, and they say it's proved because of micro evolution.  However, evolution is a theory, it is not a fact, you can't prove something that got suggested less than 300(?) years ago and takes "millions of years of process."

This is a big breaking point for most people, because evolution is not taught as a theory, but as a fact.

Oops, totally forgot to clarify. Yeah, I am talking about macro- micro's proven.

Evolution is an interesting concept. I agree with it though.

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

Evolution is an interesting concept. I agree with it though.

Any particular reason, or just because most people agree with it?

I've looked at a lot of religions and theories, and it's the one that's the most consistent and makes the most sense.

PandaGuy wrote:

I don't mean to insult anyone, but doesn't it seem unfair that religious topics aren't allowed, yet evolutionary topics are? I think any topics that might go against someone's beliefs shouldn't be allowed AT ALL.

So you're saying that topics like Harry Potter should not be able to be discussed because magic goes against some people's beliefs.

veggieman001 wrote:

PandaGuy wrote:

I don't mean to insult anyone, but doesn't it seem unfair that religious topics aren't allowed, yet evolutionary topics are? I think any topics that might go against someone's beliefs shouldn't be allowed AT ALL.

So you're saying that topics like Harry Potter should not be able to be discussed because magic goes against some people's beliefs.

That doesn't really have anything to do with anything-Nobody should get mad about HP, it's a fictional book/movie character. Evolution's real. But religion is more flamey, as there's many different religions. In evolution, it's basically just how we are what we are. I get very nervous whenever I see religious topics, as I'm atheist, but I don't post in them-Evolution shouldn't be a flamey problem, and if it is, just don't post here.
Let's stop fighting 

And to your other post, veggie, me too.

EDIT: And as I was outposted, to PandaGuys newest comment: Evolution is a FACT. It's scientifically proven. I don't really see why people would fight about it-The one against evolution wouldn't have a point, anyways. It's like someone saying computers don't exist on Scratch *-*

Last edited by Death_Wish (2011-09-20 23:55:52)

Death_Wish wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

PandaGuy wrote:

I don't mean to insult anyone, but doesn't it seem unfair that religious topics aren't allowed, yet evolutionary topics are? I think any topics that might go against someone's beliefs shouldn't be allowed AT ALL.

So you're saying that topics like Harry Potter should not be able to be discussed because magic goes against some people's beliefs.

That doesn't really have anything to do with anything-Nobody should get mad about HP, it's a fictional book/movie character. Evolution's real. But religion is more flamey, as there's many different religions. In evolution, it's basically just how we are what we are. I get very nervous whenever I see religious topics, as I'm atheist, but I don't post in them-Evolution shouldn't be a flamey problem, and if it is, just don't post here.
Let's stop fighting 

And to your other post, veggie, me too.

But even the whole concept of magic can be against it

I've known people

Jeesh

I edited my post

And Pandaguy, leave. Just leave-You're starting a flamewar.
And poop all over religion? You're being crazy-Evolution is a FACT. Religion is an opinion.
Don't reply to this, please. Don't reply to anything, really, if it doesn't contribute to the topic.

So, anyone got an explanation for irreducible complexity?

Irreducible complexity states that a cell, animal, etc. just can't survive if it is slowly formed. Can a motor stay alive if it's missing a battery, but has everything else? Can a human live with only half a heart? Half an immune system? Half a circulatory system?

Death_Wish wrote:

PandaGuy wrote:

Death_Wish wrote:

I edited my post

And Pandaguy, leave. Just leave-You're starting a flamewar.
And poop all over religion? You're being crazy-Evolution is a FACT. Religion is an opinion.
Don't reply to this, please. Don't reply to anything, really, if it doesn't contribute to the topic.

Okay, then should I start a religious topic now? I bet if I did, it would be closed the first few seconds, while this topic would still be up. And FYI, evolution is an opinion, too. Not everyone agrees with it. In fact, it's a theory, hence the evolution THEORY. You know what I mean, right?

...
I have nothing to say, except, and I hate to do this, as I hate it when I see other people do this...
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
YOU AREN'T LISTENING
RELIGION ISN'T PROVEN EVEN SLIGHTLY, WHILE EVOLUTION IS A FACT AND A THEORY

A fact is a hypothesis that is so firmly supported by evidence that we assume it is true, and act as if it were true.
Evolution goes with this.

And don't post flame posts anymore, or we'll all get warnings from the ST.

And I'll stop replying anyways.

I'd like to point out that evolution isn't a fact. Micro evolution (the theory that animals adapt to their environments) has been proven, but not macro. Macro evolution has never been observed and has several glaring problems.

Oh my god I'm just going to leave this topic before I make a gigantic fool out of myself

Last edited by veggieman001 (2011-09-21 00:16:04)

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

Death_Wish wrote:

PandaGuy wrote:

Okay, then should I start a religious topic now? I bet if I did, it would be closed the first few seconds, while this topic would still be up. And FYI, evolution is an opinion, too. Not everyone agrees with it. In fact, it's a theory, hence the evolution THEORY. You know what I mean, right?

...
I have nothing to say, except, and I hate to do this, as I hate it when I see other people do this...
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
YOU AREN'T LISTENING
RELIGION ISN'T PROVEN EVEN SLIGHTLY, WHILE EVOLUTION IS A FACT AND A THEORY

A fact is a hypothesis that is so firmly supported by evidence that we assume it is true, and act as if it were true.
Evolution goes with this.

And don't post flame posts anymore, or we'll all get warnings from the ST.

And I'll stop replying anyways.

I'd like to point out that evolution isn't a fact. Micro evolution (the theory that animals adapt to their environments) has been proven, but not macro. Macro evolution has never been observed and has several glaring problems.

Some evolution isn't exactly wrong. I do agree with some of the more simple ones, like Micro evolution. And I'm not sure what it's called, but I'm sure the thing about how two species can reproduce and create a new breed is considered evolution.

So yeah, I do believe in some evolution. After all, there is order to life and with that, comes science. Not all science is proven/correct, though, but it still exists.

PandaGuy wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

Oh my god I'm just going to leave this topic before I make a gigantic fool out of myself

What do you mean? 
You don't look like a fool.

I'm not going to give a good or accurate response to this because it could possibly hurt people's feelings, break several forum and Misc.-wide rules, and make me less reputable.