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#1 2011-06-22 20:53:28

jslomba
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isn't zatch the 1st mod?

^ title says it all


the the the the the

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#2 2011-06-23 00:29:20

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

Is it?
When was it made? Before BYOB or Streak?

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#3 2011-06-23 04:34:28

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

Streak by Billyedward was certainly the first one I heard of and BYOB followed shortly. Panther came out just before the updated BYOB. (this isn't counting all the little mods of Scratch that Jens released on his chirp blog)  smile


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#4 2011-06-23 14:15:56

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

Yes I believe streak was... or was there another one. I feel like streak has changed so much since the first version that there was one before. XD


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#5 2011-06-23 16:59:39

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

no, zatch was the 1st. it didn't use the source code (it wasn't published yet) and from the adverizment project, I could tell it was before other mod when it talked about the new blocks.


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#6 2011-06-25 08:37:48

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

Let's decide, the simple way:


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#7 2011-06-25 15:45:29

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

I haven't heard of Zatch before, so at first I thought this topic was about forum moderators.  tongue

But, I think NetScratch was the first mod. I'm not sure which Scratch version Zatch was based on, but from Zatch's intro project, I can see that there were already lists by the time it was started. However, NetScratch was based on Scratch 1.0, at which point there was no lists and very basic variables. It was privately made by the Scratch Team, but was leaked somewhere onto the forums.


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#8 2011-06-26 05:35:58

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

rubiks_cube_guy238 wrote:

I haven't heard of Zatch before, so at first I thought this topic was about forum moderators.  tongue

But, I think NetScratch was the first mod. I'm not sure which Scratch version Zatch was based on, but from Zatch's intro project, I can see that there were already lists by the time it was started. However, NetScratch was based on Scratch 1.0, at which point there was no lists and very basic variables. It was privately made by the Scratch Team, but was leaked somewhere onto the forums.

NetScratch was not the first mod. It was made by the Scratch Team.


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#9 2011-06-26 07:55:02

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

whizzer wrote:

rubiks_cube_guy238 wrote:

I haven't heard of Zatch before, so at first I thought this topic was about forum moderators.  tongue

But, I think NetScratch was the first mod. I'm not sure which Scratch version Zatch was based on, but from Zatch's intro project, I can see that there were already lists by the time it was started. However, NetScratch was based on Scratch 1.0, at which point there was no lists and very basic variables. It was privately made by the Scratch Team, but was leaked somewhere onto the forums.

NetScratch was not the first mod. It was made by the Scratch Team.

Alright, what is your definition of a Scratch mod?

NetScratch was a modification of Scratch which did not replace the development process, and is a Scratch mod by my definition. Look, the Scratch Wiki puts NetScratch under the Scratch Modifications category!


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#10 2011-06-26 14:44:16

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

whizzer wrote:

rubiks_cube_guy238 wrote:

I haven't heard of Zatch before, so at first I thought this topic was about forum moderators.  tongue

But, I think NetScratch was the first mod. I'm not sure which Scratch version Zatch was based on, but from Zatch's intro project, I can see that there were already lists by the time it was started. However, NetScratch was based on Scratch 1.0, at which point there was no lists and very basic variables. It was privately made by the Scratch Team, but was leaked somewhere onto the forums.

NetScratch was not the first mod. It was made by the Scratch Team.

THAT'S WHAT IT WAS! I KNEW there was one before slash.
It is made by the scratch team (hence the NetScratch which would be against rules).


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#11 2011-06-26 18:22:55

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

Pecola1 wrote:

It is made by the scratch team (hence the NetScratch which would be against rules).

I wrote:

It was privately made by the Scratch Team

Yeah. Obvious.


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#12 2011-06-26 18:24:05

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

Net Scratch is still a mod though.


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#13 2011-06-27 13:14:07

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

My definition of a mod:

-Any program based off of Scratch using either the source code or a copy of the program with sharing removed
-Made by a user/team other than MIT
-Not using Scratch in the title (disobeys rules)
-Having at least one modification to the code
-Shared to the public, and having an active way to download it

With the exception of Streak, the above is the things that a mod has to be to be a mod.

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#14 2011-06-27 13:16:30

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

rubiks_cube_guy238 wrote:

I haven't heard of Zatch before, so at first I thought this topic was about forum moderators.  tongue

But, I think NetScratch was the first mod. I'm not sure which Scratch version Zatch was based on, but from Zatch's intro project, I can see that there were already lists by the time it was started. However, NetScratch was based on Scratch 1.0, at which point there was no lists and very basic variables. It was privately made by the Scratch Team, but was leaked somewhere onto the forums.

Lists came out in 1.3  tongue .
However I noticed that Zatch's intro project somehow made itself in 1.4.

Wait... I now rule out Zatch as a mod, because the website disappeared some time ago... *updates list of rules*


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#15 2011-06-29 17:35:37

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

reminds me of softboard... can't seem to find the website anymore


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#16 2011-11-03 18:41:48

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

RUMCHEERYPOOPOO wrote:

reminds me of softboard... can't seem to find the website anymore

That's true. What happened to Softboard, anybody knows?

Does anybody know any other software similar to that one?

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#17 2012-04-21 12:54:59

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

In case anyone cares, almost a year after the thread was made...

Zatch wasn't nearly the first mod. I made it a few months before the release of Panther, I think. Most of the code for blocks was just "borrowed" from other mods. (with credit, of course) I deleted the website as I had stopped working on the mod and few people really wanted to download it any more. Interesting to see that people still realise it existed...

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#18 2012-04-21 13:19:36

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

jslomba wrote:

^ title says it all

yes it is. people should read dah wiki.


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#19 2012-04-21 13:21:43

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

stickdude123 wrote:

jslomba wrote:

^ title says it all

yes it is. people should read dah wiki.

AwesomeFish wrote:

In case anyone cares, almost a year after the thread was made...

Zatch wasn't nearly the first mod. I made it a few months before the release of Panther, I think. Most of the code for blocks was just "borrowed" from other mods. (with credit, of course) I deleted the website as I had stopped working on the mod and few people really wanted to download it any more. Interesting to see that people still realise it existed...

The wiki isn't always right, by the way.


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#20 2012-04-21 14:03:55

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

I remember Zatch! No, it was one of the first, probably the first after the huge modding rush was started a bit after Panther development.


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#21 2012-04-21 15:07:07

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

My pet peeve #1: DEAD LINKS!!! >:-(

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#22 2012-05-20 16:08:13

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

I Do Not Know The Answer To This Question. Goodbye.


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#23 2012-05-20 16:23:07

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

it was SECOND to first IT SO HARD TO INSTALLLL!!


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#24 2012-05-20 17:25:41

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

mrsrec wrote:

I Do Not Know The Answer To This Question. Goodbye.

Well, why did you post here?


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#25 2012-05-21 10:44:45

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Re: isn't zatch the 1st mod?

No, NetScratch was made by the scratch team first, it was the one that gave the idea of making mods. Zatch may have been the first user made mod.

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