Scratch

Give me 9001 reasons to support!

Aidan wrote:

Can someone direct me to an official Scratch page which specifically states that Scratch projects are protected under Fair Use?

Because, unless I'm mistaken, Scratch projects are only protected under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike License.

+9002.

higejolly wrote:

Give me 9001 reasons to support!

Give me 9001 reasons not to support.

scratch_yoshi wrote:

Aidan wrote:

Can someone direct me to an official Scratch page which specifically states that Scratch projects are protected under Fair Use?

Because, unless I'm mistaken, Scratch projects are only protected under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike License.

+9002.

higejolly wrote:

Give me 9001 reasons to support!

Give me 9001 reasons not to support.

1-9001: I SAID SO!!!!!

higejolly wrote:

scratch_yoshi wrote:

Aidan wrote:

Can someone direct me to an official Scratch page which specifically states that Scratch projects are protected under Fair Use?

Because, unless I'm mistaken, Scratch projects are only protected under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike License.

+9002.

higejolly wrote:

Give me 9001 reasons to support!

Give me 9001 reasons not to support.

1-9001: I SAID SO!!!!!

Well, that was 1.

calebxy wrote:

sanddude wrote:

SeptimusHeap wrote:

Protected under Fair Use.

Yep. It said directly in the link you used:

"Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include —

(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;

(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;

(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and

(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors."

So ha.

Max, read this.

Yes, Max. Do in fact read this.

echs wrote:

Why does anyone even care?

Funny, I was about to post the fact that I couldn't care less about this old hat news.
I mean, it was a bit upsetting at first, but that was ages ago. Now I think we have heard all of the possible arguements and are jsut left to choose a side and stay there. I don't see the point in further debate.

sanddude wrote:

echs wrote:

Why does anyone even care?

Because it's unfair to force Little Johnny to take down something due to copyright when it's not actually infringement.

Well, obviously, but it's clear "Little Johnny" or his parents didn't want to take action, so you should just drop it.

Aidan wrote:

Aidan wrote:

Can someone direct me to an official Scratch page which specifically states that Scratch projects are protected under Fair Use?

Because, unless I'm mistaken, Scratch projects are only protected under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike License.

In addition, even if Scratch projects are protected under Fair Use, has anyone actually read what Fair Use actually covers?

Uh... yeah. On the first, page, someone looked it up and found where it actually said we're protected.

EmperorEvil wrote:

SeptimusHeap wrote:

He has total right to use copyrighted stuff, because Scratch has some educational thing that allows it.

Creative Commons 

No, fair use.

MaxtheWeirdo wrote:

werdna123 wrote:

Give me 10 reasons to support.

1. Read Title 17, Section 107 of US Copyright Law here: http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#107 It says in 4 that the project can't interfere with the marketability of the originａｌ．　Ｗｈｙ　ｂｕｙ　Ｐａｃ－Ｍａｎ　ｉｆ　ｙｏｕ　ｃａｎ　ｐｌａｙ　ａ　ｄｏｚｅｎ　ｃｌｏｎｅｓ　ｆｏｒ　ｆｒｅｅ？

Because it comes with a bunch of other games. Anyway, this wasn't even close to being the original, so there's plenty of reason to buy an actual Pacman game. It also wasn't popular compared with other EXACT copies of the game on the internet. Even Google posted an exact Pacman game for one of their doodles for millions to see.

２．　Ｗｏｕｌｄｎ’ｔ　ｙｏｕ　ｗａｎｔ　ｔｏ　ｂｅ　ａｂｌｅ　ｔｏ　ｍａｋｅ　ｍｏｎｅｙ　ｏｆｆ　ｙｏｕｒ　ｃｒｅａｔｉｏｎ？　Ｔｈｅｙ　ｃａｎ’ｔ　ｍａｋｅ　ｍｏｎｅｙ　ｉｆ　ａ　ｃｌｏｎｅ　ｉｓ　ｏｕｔ　ｔｈｅｒｅ．

THEY AREN'T LOSING MONEY BECAUSE OF SOME STUPID FAN-MADE PACMAN GAME THAT HARDLY ANYONE KNEW ABOUT ANYWAY.

３．　Ｍａｎｙ　ｐｅｏｐｌｅ　ｓａｙ　”Ｉｔ’ｓ　ｅｄｕｃａｔｉｏｎａｌ，　ｉｔ’ｓ　ｆｉｎｅ”．　Ｌｅａｒｎｉｎｇ　ｔｏ　ｐｒｏｇｒａｍ　ｏｎ　ｙｏｕｒ　ｏｗｎ　ｉｓ　ｆｉｎｅ，　ｂｕｔ　ｏｎｃｅ　ｙｏｕ　ｒｅｌｅａｓｅ　ｉｔ，　ｉｔ’ｓ　ｅｎｔｅｒｔａｉｎｍｎｔ．　Ｉｔ’ｓ　ｎｏ　ｌｏｎｇｅｒ　ｊｕｓｔ　ｉｎ　ａ　ｃｌａｓｓｒｏｏｍ．

But it's still educational. Besides that, 124Scratch wasn't making any profit on this project.

４．Ｍａｎｙ　ｐｅｏｐｌｅ　ａｌｓｏ　ｓａｙ　”Ｂｕｔ　ｔｈｅｒｅ　ａｒｅ　ｄｏｚｅｎｓ　ｏｆ　ｃｌｏｎｅｓ　ｏｕｔ　ｔｈｅｒｅ！”　Ｔｈｉｎｇ　ｉｓ，　ｔｈａｔ　ｍｅａｎｓ　ｎｏｔｈｉｎｇ　ｔｏ　ｔｈｅ　ｌａｗ．　Ａ　ｓｉｎｇｌｅ　ｉｎｆｒｉｎｇｅｍｅｎｔ　ｌｅｓｓｅｎｓ　ｔｈｅｉｒ　ａｂｉｌｉｔｙ　ｔｏ　ｆｉｇｈｔ　ｏｈｅｒ　ｉｎｆｒｉｎｇｅｎｔｓ．　Ｔｈｅ　ｅｘｉｓｔｅｎｃｅ　ｏｆ　ｏｎｅ　ａｋｓ　ｉｔ　ａｐｐｅａｒ　ｔｈａｔ　ｔｈｅｙ　ｃｏｎｄｏｎｅ　ｉｔ．　Ａｎｄ　ｙｏｕ　ｃａｎ’ｔ　ｋｎｏｗ　ｔｈａｔ　ｔｈｅｙ　ａｒｅｎ’ｔ　ｗｏｒｋｉｎｇ　ｔｏ　ｔａｋｅ　ｄｏｗｎ　ｏｔｈｅｒ　ｃｌｏｎｅｓ．

I already answered this. Yes, it's "technically" okay, but that doesn't mean it's right. You're starting to sound like Weiner here if you know what I mean.

５．　Ｔｈｅ　ｐｏｒｔｉｏｎ　ｏｆ　ｔｈｅ　ｗｏｒｋ　ｍａｔｔｅｒｓ．　Ｔｈｅ　ｐｒｏｊｅｃｔ　ｗａｓ　ｗｈａｔ　Ｐａｃ－Ｍａｎ　ｉｓ：　Ａ　Ｇａｍｅ．　Ｉｔ’ｓ　ｎｏｔ　ｆａｎ－ｆｉｃｔｉｏｎ，　ｏｒ　ａｎ　ａｎｉｍａｔｉｏｎ，　ｉｔ’ｓ　ａ　ｇａｍｅ．

I don't see what this has to do with anything.

MaxtheWeirdo wrote:

Ｉｔ　ｗａｓ　ｕｐｌｏａｄｅｄ　ｔｏ　ｂｅ　ｖｉｅｅｄ　ｂｙ　ｏｔｈｅｒｓ　ａｓ　ａ　ｇａｍｅ．
Ａｎｄ　Ｉ　ｄｏｎ’ｔ　ｋｎｏｗ　ｈｏｗ　Ｉ　ｇｏｔ　ｔｈｅ　ｆｏｎｔ．

Max, stop talking in broken font squares.

somelia wrote:

sanddude wrote:

echs wrote:

The heap of septimus is right.

Also sanddude, I'd like to say something but it's political, so can you ask me something on Formspring?

Oh, I disabled my Formspring account because it really wasn't fun after a while. It just got boring. So, sorry.

It wasn't any fun because there were trolls. I feel so sorry for you. 

No. Eventually, I just ignored the trolls. It just wasn't fun anymore, especially since most of my friends rarely got on. So the trolls have nothing to do with it.

scratch_yoshi wrote:

SeptimusHeap wrote:

Earthboundjeff wrote:

Fair Use.
Namco had no right. Copyright doesn't apply here. It's eduactional nature lets it have fair use.
Also, IT WAS A LITTLE KID. Do you walk up to a baby and yank it's bottle away and yell at it? No. You don't.

Better example:

Do you snatch a little kid's drawing of pac-man away when he's showing it to his friends?

Even BETTER example:

If you see someone has copied or forged something of yours, do you snatch it? YES.

Says the person who created several Ace Atorney related projects.