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#26 2011-06-20 13:58:17

MaxtheWeirdo
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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

kimmy123 wrote:

MaxtheWeirdo wrote:

What’s the uploader’s username?

How did you make text like that?

I messed something up on this netbook, and now it’s stuck like this.


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#27 2011-06-20 13:58:34

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

MaxtheWeirdo wrote:

kimmy123 wrote:

MaxtheWeirdo wrote:

What’s the uploader’s username?

How did you make text like that?

I messed something up on this netbook, and now it’s stuck like this.

Awesome!


http://i.imgur.com/Mg3TPIE.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/rgyzXV5.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/685FKVd.pnghttp://24.media.tumblr.com/8678e33865664f328e1654109679cb92/tumblr_mm1qu3jGD71s8caito3_r1_250.gif

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#28 2011-06-20 13:59:18

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

kimmy123 wrote:

MaxtheWeirdo wrote:

kimmy123 wrote:


How did you make text like that?

I messed something up on this netbook, and now it’s stuck like this.

Awesome!

does it on the comments too i saw....

anyways, fair use. the end.


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#29 2011-06-20 14:01:36

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

Here, read my arguent on this thread:
http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=804745#p804745


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#30 2011-06-20 14:01:59

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

me


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#31 2011-06-20 14:02:22

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

SeptimusHeap wrote:

sanddude wrote:

SeptimusHeap wrote:

It got removed.

It was NOTHING close to the actual game, it was a kid, and Fair Use.

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#32 2011-06-20 14:06:22

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

Where does one even BUY Pacman anymore?

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#33 2011-06-20 14:07:36

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

Liduen wrote:

Where does one even BUY Pacman anymore?

At Target. No, not joking. I have it. I was boycotting it for a while, but I decided that's pointless because I already bought it.

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#34 2011-06-20 14:11:44

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

somelia wrote:

Liduen wrote:

Where does one even BUY Pacman anymore?

At Target. No, not joking. I have it. I was boycotting it for a while, but I decided that's pointless because I already bought it.

really? huh. For what platform?

I mean at this point, any rerelases of Pac Man are sort of to get to play it on a specific platform in a new/different way. It's not like we could create a Pac Man game to make it feel like you are playing it on a specific platform and that's mostly the selling point. And if you want to play in in arcade, it's only like 25 cents and i doubt they get much from that.


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#35 2011-06-20 14:16:42

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

SeptimusHeap wrote:

scratch_yoshi wrote:

SeptimusHeap wrote:


Better example:

Do you snatch a little kid's drawing of pac-man away when he's showing it to his friends?

Even BETTER example:

If you see someone has copied or forged something of yours, do you snatch it? YES.

It was nothing like the actual game.

It's protected under Fair Use, can't you understand that?

It's a KID. If a kid makes a drawing of pac-man, and you were Nomco, would you steal it?

*SIGH* 8 year olds.

I. AM. NOT. 8.


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#36 2011-06-20 14:23:16

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

lilacfuzz101 wrote:

somelia wrote:

Liduen wrote:

Where does one even BUY Pacman anymore?

At Target. No, not joking. I have it. I was boycotting it for a while, but I decided that's pointless because I already bought it.

really? huh. For what platform?

I mean at this point, any rerelases of Pac Man are sort of to get to play it on a specific platform in a new/different way. It's not like we could create a Pac Man game to make it feel like you are playing it on a specific platform and that's mostly the selling point. And if you want to play in in arcade, it's only like 25 cents and i doubt they get much from that.

It was just a controller that plugs into a TV. It had the classic arcade joystick and it was pretty fun. I got it exactly a year ago and I haven't needed to change the batteries once.  big_smile

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#37 2011-06-20 14:31:07

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

kimmy123 wrote:

me

Does that mean you support?


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#38 2011-06-20 14:33:08

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

MaxtheWeirdo wrote:

kimmy123 wrote:

me

Does that mean you support?

Yes.


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#39 2011-06-20 14:37:56

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

(giggles at poor argument)


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#40 2011-06-20 14:39:12

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

Are you arguing this because you believe it or just for the sake of arguing?  Almost all evidence is against Namco.


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#41 2011-06-20 14:40:33

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

I believ it. I have consulted an expert about it.
Tell me the evidence.

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#42 2011-06-20 15:23:36

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

sanddude wrote:

SeptimusHeap wrote:

MaxtheWeirdo wrote:


1. Read Title 17, Section 107 of US Copyright Law here: http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#107 It says in 4 that the project can't interfere with the marketability of the original. Why buy Pac-Man if you can play a dozen clones for free?
2. Wouldn’t you want to be able to make money off your creation? They can’t make money if a clone is out there.
3. Many people say ”It’s educational, it’s fine”. Learning to program on your own is fine, but once you release it, it’s entertainment. It’s no longer just in a classroom.
4.Many people also say ”But there are dozens of clones out there!” Thing is, that means nothing to the law. A single infringement lessens their ability to fight oher infringents. The existence of one aks it appear that they condone it. And you can’t know that they aren’t working to take down other clones.
5. The portion of the work matters. The project was what Pac-Man is: A Game. It’s not fan-fiction, or an animation, it’s a game.
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Protected under Fair Use.

Yep. It said directly in the link you used:

"Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include —

(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;

(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;

(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and

(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors."

So ha.

Max, read this.


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#43 2011-06-20 15:26:12

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

Not me. Namco did wrong.

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#44 2011-06-20 15:40:04

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

Fair Use. It applies on Scratch, and that "expert" apparently works at Namco/Nomco.

I don't support. In fact, I 100% anti-support.  tongue

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#45 2011-06-20 15:57:25

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

I Sage this thread.


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#46 2011-06-20 16:16:29

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

I'm actually on the fence now...


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#47 2011-06-20 16:23:06

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

wiimaster wrote:

I'm actually on the fence now...

No! Don't do that! It was a child! Just a little child! A Namco had no right! Fair use! FAIR USE I TELL YOU! They are evil! Just like Sony! Don't listen to them! Don't do it!

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#48 2011-06-20 16:23:36

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

MaxtheWeirdo wrote:

I believ it. I have consulted an expert about it.
Tell me the evidence.

Who is this expert you speak of?


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#49 2011-06-20 16:24:12

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

The_Dancing_Donut wrote:

MaxtheWeirdo wrote:

I believ it. I have consulted an expert about it.
Tell me the evidence.

Who is this expert you speak of?

His evil conscience!  yikes


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#50 2011-06-20 17:53:38

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Re: Those of Us Who Side With Namco: A petition

Can someone direct me to an official Scratch page which specifically states that Scratch projects are protected under Fair Use?

Because, unless I'm mistaken, Scratch projects are only protected under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike License.

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