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#51 2011-05-23 10:06:34

scimonster
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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

That's good!

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#52 2011-05-23 10:11:06

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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

I like it  smile


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#53 2011-05-23 10:17:47

fire219
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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

meew0 wrote:

I like it  smile

scimonster wrote:

That's good!

Are you guys talking about my letter, or waveOSBeta's?


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#54 2011-05-23 10:20:18

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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

fire219 wrote:

meew0 wrote:

I like it  smile

scimonster wrote:

That's good!

Are you guys talking about my letter, or waveOSBeta's?

Yours.

EVIL 60SR.  mad

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#55 2011-05-23 10:24:28

meew0
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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

fire219 wrote:

meew0 wrote:

I like it  smile

scimonster wrote:

That's good!

Are you guys talking about my letter, or waveOSBeta's?

Also yours.


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#56 2011-05-23 10:24:42

fire219
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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

scimonster wrote:

fire219 wrote:

meew0 wrote:

I like it  smile

scimonster wrote:

That's good!

Are you guys talking about my letter, or waveOSBeta's?

Yours.

EVIL 60SR.  mad

big_smile  Thanks!

Unless someone tells me something that needs to be improved, the email will be sent in 10 minutes.


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#57 2011-05-23 10:26:06

fire219
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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

meew0 wrote:

fire219 wrote:

meew0 wrote:

I like it  smile

scimonster wrote:

That's good!

Are you guys talking about my letter, or waveOSBeta's?

Also yours.

Thanks!


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#58 2011-05-23 10:26:37

scimonster
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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

fire219 wrote:

scimonster wrote:

fire219 wrote:

meew0 wrote:

I like it  smile

Are you guys talking about my letter, or waveOSBeta's?

Yours.

EVIL 60SR.  mad

big_smile  Thanks!

Unless someone tells me something that needs to be improved, the email will be sent in 10 minutes.

Well, you can include the links in the post right before yours...

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#59 2011-05-23 10:29:55

fire219
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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

scimonster wrote:

fire219 wrote:

scimonster wrote:

Yours.

EVIL 60SR.  mad

big_smile  Thanks!

Unless someone tells me something that needs to be improved, the email will be sent in 10 minutes.

Well, you can include the links in the post right before yours...

Good idea. Timer paused.  tongue

Edit: Timer unpaused. How it is now:

Hello Namco-Bandai,

As you are aware of (and if not, have been reminded by other e-mails), that you sent a DMCA notice to the Scratch Team requiring them to remove 124scratch's Pac-man project. This would be fine with me, the Scratch Team, and all of the other 200,000+ "Scratchers", if you had also sent DMCA notices to the thousands of free flash versions of Pac-man that are all over the internet, and even the other Pac-man games on Scratch. But instead, you targeted 124scratch's project only, and angered the before-mentioned 200,000+ Scratchers, and probably made sure that they will no longer buy any of your products.

One thing you may have overlooked is Scratch is for educational purposes, and therefore is protected by Fair Use. Fair Use allows copyrighted materials to be used for educational purposes. Since 124scratch shared the project with others, there is no doubt that the project was protected by Fair Use. Also, the project did not, and would not affect the financial strength and integrity of the Namco-Bandai company or brand. In fact, the financial strength of Namco-Bandai is more likely to suffer from the 200,000+ Scratchers not buying your products.

One last thing is that people, especially kids, learn best from copying their favorite thing or game. As you can see from how most, if not all, of 124scratch's projects are inspired by Pac-Man.

As you see,  124scratch's project was not infringing copyright law, or Namco-Bandai's intellectual property. It was quite wrong for you to send that DMCA notice, and may even have broken a few laws yourselves.

Sincerely,
Matthew (last name) (fire219 on Scratch)   

Any last suggestions?

Last edited by fire219 (2011-05-23 10:34:37)


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#60 2011-05-23 10:35:48

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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

Sounds good!

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#61 2011-05-23 10:40:26

fire219
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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

Sending.

People, feel free to use my email as a template for your own emails to Namco.


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#62 2011-05-23 10:51:31

Mcsugarface
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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

This is unfair. There is fair use, since it's for educational purposes. But, one thing that I saw in NAMCO's letter was this: 'While we appreciate the educational nature of your enterprise and look forward to contributions of the future programmers you are training, part of their training should include concern for the intellectual property of others'. Even though I still think this was unfair, maybe that phrase could be taken a bit more into mind with Scratch. I think we should have more resources, which are free to be used, like Creative Commons, and Public Domain. I think that saying that all Scratch projects have a Creative Commons license may be wrong, in a way, since many use projects copyright materials. But does Fair Use and Creative Commons allow that? I'm not familiar with Fair Use.

Everyone who supports this, put this in your signature:
NAMCO you lost a customer.

Either NAMCO gets some senses, or they ask to remove all the Pac-Man games.


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#63 2011-05-23 11:25:37

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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

I'm gonna write one, but I can't send it...
Someone else can use it.  smile
Gimme a sec...


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#64 2011-05-23 11:33:30

Chronicle
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Posts: 40

Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

The_Dancing_Donut wrote:

I'm gonna write one, but I can't send it...
Someone else can use it.  smile
Gimme a sec...

Your sig is disturbing. The way Jedward are I mean. They look incredibly childish.


I wantz hugz. So do creepers.

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#65 2011-05-23 11:33:56

Pecola1
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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

fire219 wrote:

Hello Namco-Bandai,

As you are aware of (and if not, have been reminded by other e-mails), that you sent a DMCA notice to the Scratch Team requiring them to remove 124scratch's Pac-man project. This would be fine with me, the Scratch Team, and all of the other 200,000+ "Scratchers", if you had also sent DMCA notices to the thousands of free flash versions of Pac-man that are all over the internet. But instead, you targeted 124scratch's project only, and angered the before-mentioned 200,000+ Scratchers, and probably made sure that they will no longer buy any of your products.

One thing you may have overlooked is Scratch is for educational purposes, and therefore is protected by Fair Use. Fair Use allows copyrighted materials to be used for educational purposes. Since 124scratch shared the project with others, there is no doubt that the project was protected by Fair Use. Also, the project did not, and would not affect the financial strength and integrity of the Namco-Bandai company or brand. In fact, the financial strength of Namco-Bandai is more likely to suffer from the 200,000+ Scratchers not buying your products.

One last thing is that people, especially kids, learn best from copying their favorite thing or game. As you can see from how most, if not all, of 124scratch's projects are inspired by Pac-Man.

As you see,  124scratch's project was not infringing copyright law, or Namco-Bandai's intellectual property. It was quite wrong for you to send that DMCA notice, and may even have broken a few laws yourselves.

Sincerely,
Matthew (last name here) (fire219 on Scratch)   

What do you guys think?

Add the link to the list of protesters, and its very good! I think you should note that not only did 124scratch post the project because he liked pac man, but now he doesn't like it, so he has started posting other things (e.g. Mario), companies who actually respect education towards kids and won't horrify a kid by waving a legal note which the kid may not know about in their face.

Somethin' like that.


If you are reading this, please read to the end, because if you don't you won't know what's at the end. Don't just skip to the end though otherwise you won't be able to read the middle, which is most important. Now you must be wondering why you just read all that, the reason is you may have not noticed something, read it again and see if you notice it this time  smile

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#66 2011-05-23 11:35:40

Pecola1
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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

LOL, i liked:
Namco, you have lost a customer. 199,999 customers, actually. (Scratch_yoshi still likes you, Namco.)


If you are reading this, please read to the end, because if you don't you won't know what's at the end. Don't just skip to the end though otherwise you won't be able to read the middle, which is most important. Now you must be wondering why you just read all that, the reason is you may have not noticed something, read it again and see if you notice it this time  smile

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#67 2011-05-23 11:38:02

Pecola1
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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

What is NAMCO's email?


If you are reading this, please read to the end, because if you don't you won't know what's at the end. Don't just skip to the end though otherwise you won't be able to read the middle, which is most important. Now you must be wondering why you just read all that, the reason is you may have not noticed something, read it again and see if you notice it this time  smile

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#68 2011-05-23 11:38:53

fire219
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Posts: 1000+

Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

Pecola1 wrote:

fire219 wrote:

Hello Namco-Bandai,

As you are aware of (and if not, have been reminded by other e-mails), that you sent a DMCA notice to the Scratch Team requiring them to remove 124scratch's Pac-man project. This would be fine with me, the Scratch Team, and all of the other 200,000+ "Scratchers", if you had also sent DMCA notices to the thousands of free flash versions of Pac-man that are all over the internet. But instead, you targeted 124scratch's project only, and angered the before-mentioned 200,000+ Scratchers, and probably made sure that they will no longer buy any of your products.

One thing you may have overlooked is Scratch is for educational purposes, and therefore is protected by Fair Use. Fair Use allows copyrighted materials to be used for educational purposes. Since 124scratch shared the project with others, there is no doubt that the project was protected by Fair Use. Also, the project did not, and would not affect the financial strength and integrity of the Namco-Bandai company or brand. In fact, the financial strength of Namco-Bandai is more likely to suffer from the 200,000+ Scratchers not buying your products.

One last thing is that people, especially kids, learn best from copying their favorite thing or game. As you can see from how most, if not all, of 124scratch's projects are inspired by Pac-Man.

As you see,  124scratch's project was not infringing copyright law, or Namco-Bandai's intellectual property. It was quite wrong for you to send that DMCA notice, and may even have broken a few laws yourselves.

Sincerely,
Matthew (last name here) (fire219 on Scratch)   

What do you guys think?

Add the link to the list of protesters, and its very good! I think you should note that not only did 124scratch post the project because he liked pac man, but now he doesn't like it, so he has started posting other things (e.g. Mario), companies who actually respect education towards kids and won't horrify a kid by waving a legal note which the kid may not know about in their face.

Somethin' like that.

Kinda late to, because I have already sent it. I might actually send that stuff in a second email.


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#69 2011-05-23 11:48:03

Pecola1
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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

Use this maybe:

Hello Namco-Bandai,

As you are aware of (and if not, have been reminded by other e-mails), that you sent a DMCA notice to the Scratch Team requiring them to remove 124scratch's Pac-man project. This would be fine with me, the Scratch Team, and all of the other 200,000+ "Scratchers", if you had also sent DMCA notices to the thousands of free flash versions of Pac-man that are all over the internet. But instead, you targeted 124scratch's project only, and angered the before-mentioned 200,000+ Scratchers, and probably made sure that they will no longer buy any of your products.

One thing you may have overlooked is Scratch is for educational purposes, and therefore is protected by Fair Use. Fair Use allows copyrighted materials to be used for educational purposes. Since 124scratch shared the project with others, there is no doubt that the project was protected by Fair Use. Also, the project did not, and would not affect the financial strength and integrity of the Namco-Bandai company or brand. In fact, the financial strength of Namco-Bandai is more likely to suffer from the 200,000+ Scratchers not buying your products.

One last thing is that people, especially kids, learn best from copying their favorite thing or game. As you can see from how most, if not all, of 124scratch's projects are inspired by Pac-Man. Now that you did this to him, he has moved on to a company which respects children education, Nintendo's Mario.

As you see,  124scratch's project was not infringing copyright law, or Namco-Bandai's intellectual property. It was quite wrong for you to send that DMCA notice, and may have even broken a few laws yourselves.

If you don't like their project being on, why give DMCA notices to everyone who has made a game on the internet, just Google search Pac-Man and you will get over 25,300,000 results, now you can start clicking on links and finding ones that go against what you want. Also go to http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=42387&p=1 to see many Scratchers protesting against NAMCO, so why wait? Do it now if you really care, otherwise, one educational project taken off even when it is legal? Just think about it.

Sincerely,
YorName Here (Username on Scratch)


If you are reading this, please read to the end, because if you don't you won't know what's at the end. Don't just skip to the end though otherwise you won't be able to read the middle, which is most important. Now you must be wondering why you just read all that, the reason is you may have not noticed something, read it again and see if you notice it this time  smile

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#70 2011-05-23 11:49:41

The_Dancing_Donut
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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

Chronicle wrote:

The_Dancing_Donut wrote:

I'm gonna write one, but I can't send it...
Someone else can use it.  smile
Gimme a sec...

Your sig is disturbing. The way Jedward are I mean. They look incredibly childish.

They're childish anyway, but I like the pic! They don't hane to foollow the crowd to earn €3m and a Ferrari 458 each  tongue   tongue

Alternatives, you might not want to use this account to avoid a ban... why were you banned? (comment on one of my projects, I wanna know D smile   smile

On topic, I'm drafting a letter.


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#71 2011-05-23 11:53:32

Pecola1
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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

Pecola1 wrote:

What is NAMCO's email?

So, what is it?


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#72 2011-05-23 12:01:24

Pecola1
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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

124scratch was almost ADVERTISING Pac-Man, not stealing it.


If you are reading this, please read to the end, because if you don't you won't know what's at the end. Don't just skip to the end though otherwise you won't be able to read the middle, which is most important. Now you must be wondering why you just read all that, the reason is you may have not noticed something, read it again and see if you notice it this time  smile

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#73 2011-05-23 12:09:48

rdococ
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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

scratch_yoshi wrote:

I am still on Namco's side.

Actually, Namco only took down Scratch's pacman projects, not Google's, not others.
I am on the neutral side. Pacman is copyrighted, however they didn't tell Google to take down theirs, or others.

Okay, I'm going to take over Pacman and make it MINE. Thanks, Namco.  big_smile

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#74 2011-05-23 12:13:42

Chronicle
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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

Its ridiculous that they took it down in the first place. Scratch isn't like Youtube.


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#75 2011-05-23 12:35:47

Earthboundjeff
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Re: My E-mail to NAMCO

To everyone who is against or neutral...
What NAMCO did was against Trade Policy. It's a little thing called fair use, and Scratch is educational. Theoretically, we could sue them. Don't try to defend them, it wasn't infringing any copyright laws because of Fair Use.


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