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Luigitailsdoll45 wrote:

svinnik wrote:

technoguyx wrote:

Not everyone pays taxes, taxes aren't even what we'll implement. The thing we're discussing is a fee for trading ores. Still that isn't a definite, permanent change, it can be still discussed.

And obviously InvEdit isn't and will never be allowed.

Also, I say no to governors, especially not multiple ones. Just one might be good, but it makes sense only in SMP imo.

That reminds me. Anyone want to host Scratchia? We could rent a server, but we would have to all pay.

Thanks rabbit.

Yeah,I want Scratchia to be a server.

Then you won't mind me saying that I don't.

svinnik wrote:

Luigitailsdoll45 wrote:

svinnik wrote:

That reminds me. Anyone want to host Scratchia? We could rent a server, but we would have to all pay.

Thanks rabbit.

Yeah,I want Scratchia to be a server.

We all want Scratchia to be a server.

Not all....

rabbit1131 wrote:

technoguyx wrote:

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

Think of it this way- you'll be gaining 1 or more ore by doing nothing/waiting for your turn.

[insert cliche commercial music here]

"Whoa, seriously?  "
"YES! NOW YOU CAN USE YOUR SPARE ORE TO EARN QUICK CASH WHILE YOU WAIT, ONLY AT THE SCRATCHIA BANK!"

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

We'll just use the already-built Scratchia forum.

Yeah, it's pretty nice actually, but it was better with the lava illumination D: Maybe revamp the roof a little too.

Ok. Do you see this? Is this what you want? Taxes? Just getting free things? Let's just take every citizen of the United States and give them a hundred dollars a day for doing NOTHING. I mean COME ON. Seriously. Rethink this. Do want to receive free money? NO!
If you do this I am not going to take anything. I won't pay taxes I WILL NOT TAKE FROM THAT BANK. I WILL NOT USE ANY INVENTORY EDITED ITEMS, those are for other things. Scratchia was never intended for inventory editor and it never will. RETHINK IT l!!!!

I think you might be missing the point a bit- the bank is purely for currency (diamond, gold, iron, lapis, coal) exchange. What we're voting on is making it so that only they have a set worth so shops can work more easily. Think of it like ten dollar bills being diamonds, 1 dollar bills being gold, fifty cent pieces being iron, and coal being like a nickel. We're only making it so they can be used to buy stuff more easily.

We aren't talking about just getting free things or taxes, either- I totally don't agree with either of those things. Instead, we're building a bit more on the above idea (ores being currency) and saying you can trade four quarters for one dollar, or 4 coal for 1 iron (or whatever the coal:iron ratio is  ). Follow me so far? But where will that 1 iron that you're trading for come from? You! You're allowing your ores to be traded, and for the trouble you're going through, you charge a fee of 1 coal/iron/whatever (the fee will be decided previously though, so it'll have a set rate).

So I want to trade 4 coal for 1 iron (or whatever the coal:iron ratio is). I go to the bank, and I put 5 coal (the fifth is the fee you charge) and I get 1 iron. Later, when it's your turn, you can choose to leave the 5 coal in there so more people can trade their ores for it, or you can take it and go back to your house with 1 more ore than you had before.

Get it now?

gbear605 wrote:

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

Alright then, johndo77's turn starts at 12:00 AM, March 5 (tomorrow). Of course, he can go ahead and start editing and stuff right now if he'd like.

Edit: gbear- note that it's johndo's turn, not yours. You're after him. Sorry for the confusion. 

ok, I just won't be able to edit it at all during my turn, because I have the meeting for my robotics club (which I can't miss cause the compitition is March 12, and then I have to slepp, then I have church tommorrow.
Johndo, I'll give you 5 diamonds to let me go now.

O... M... G... I have robotics too and the competition is on the 12th too! Is it FRC? What team are you on?

rabbit1131 wrote:

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

rabbit1131 wrote:

Ok. Do you see this? Is this what you want? Taxes? Just getting free things? Let's just take every citizen of the United States and give them a hundred dollars a day for doing NOTHING. I mean COME ON. Seriously. Rethink this. Do want to receive free money? NO!
If you do this I am not going to take anything. I won't pay taxes I WILL NOT TAKE FROM THAT BANK. I WILL NOT USE ANY INVENTORY EDITED ITEMS, those are for other things. Scratchia was never intended for inventory editor and it never will. RETHINK IT l!!!!

I think you might be missing the point a bit- the bank is purely for currency (diamond, gold, iron, lapis, coal) exchange. What we're voting on is making it so that only they have a set worth so shops can work more easily. Think of it like ten dollar bills being diamonds, 1 dollar bills being gold, fifty cent pieces being iron, and coal being like a nickel. We're only making it so they can be used to buy stuff more easily.

We aren't talking about just getting free things or taxes, either- I totally don't agree with either of those things. Instead, we're building a bit more on the above idea (ores being currency) and saying you can trade four quarters for one dollar, or 4 coal for 1 iron (or whatever the coal:iron ratio is  ). Follow me so far? But where will that 1 iron that you're trading for come from? You! You're allowing your ores to be traded, and for the trouble you're going through, you charge a fee of 1 coal/iron/whatever (the fee will be decided previously though, so it'll have a set rate).

So I want to trade 4 coal for 1 iron (or whatever the coal:iron ratio is). I go to the bank, and I put 5 coal (the fifth is the fee you charge) and I get 1 iron. Later, when it's your turn, you can choose to leave the 5 coal in there so more people can trade their ores for it, or you can take it and go back to your house with 1 more ore than you had before.

Get it now?

Hmm... I get more of it. But... The only problem I see is that the bank is not owned by someone. So why does it need profit?

The bank isn't the one profiting; the person who allowed their ore to be traded is the one that profits.

It's basically like selling your money for a bit more money 

rabbit1131 wrote:

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

rabbit1131 wrote:

Hmm... I get more of it. But... The only problem I see is that the bank is not owned by someone. So why does it need profit?

The bank isn't the one profiting; the person who allowed their ore to be traded is the one that profits.

It's basically like selling your money for a bit more money 

Then I could turn a piece of iron into diamond...

But that's why we're adding set values to the ores. With the value we've set, I believe it takes 40 or so iron to get one diamond.

This is what happens when government is added... A mess.

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

rabbit1131 wrote:

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

But that's why we're adding set values to the ores. With the value we've set, I believe it takes 40 or so iron to get one diamond.

Ok. I hate to be so ignorant. But weren't we getting along just fine before?

We were, but now we're adding a way to trade in your four quarters for one dollar.

rabbit1131 wrote:

This is what happens when government is added... A mess.

But everything has to have rules- without rules, there's chaos.

YES

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

rabbit1131 wrote:

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

But that's why we're adding set values to the ores. With the value we've set, I believe it takes 40 or so iron to get one diamond.

Ok. I hate to be so ignorant. But weren't we getting along just fine before?

We were, but now we're adding a way to trade in your four quarters for one dollar.

rabbit1131 wrote:

This is what happens when government is added... A mess.

But everything has to have rules- without rules, there's chaos.

I guess I am sort of disappointed that my general store will no longer be able to sell diamond or iron or gold or lapis or coal because the bank will have all the business. But that is what happens in business.

lol oops

A: 4 (me, Sunrise-Moon, werdna, johndo)
B: 0
C: 4 (adriangl, rabbit, Luigitailsdoll, MathWizz)

ssss is the vote breaker! Whatever he votes will determine it.

Gbear hasn't VOTED!!!!
OR STG!!!

Last edited by rabbit1131 (2011-03-05 19:50:08)

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

rabbit1131 wrote:

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

rabbit1131 wrote:

Ok. I hate to be so ignorant. But weren't we getting along just fine before?

We were, but now we're adding a way to trade in your four quarters for one dollar.


But everything has to have rules- without rules, there's chaos.

I guess I am sort of disappointed that my general store will no longer be able to sell diamond or iron or gold or lapis or coal because the bank will have all the business. But that is what happens in business.

You can still "sell" them, but you have to sell them at the bank. Anyone who wants to can sell at the bank.

I am the owner of walmart. I can't sell plants at my store anymore. I must sell them at the government plant building.