This has been suggested many times before, and has been denied for several reasons.
1. It's against Apple's app store regulations.
2. It would be way too much work for the Scratch team.
3. Scratch just wouldn't work very well on a small touchscreen like that.
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Harakou wrote:
This has been suggested many times before, and has been denied for several reasons.
1. It's against Apple's app store regulations. The concept isn't, but it really depends on what it's able to do.
2. It would be way too much work for the Scratch team. They've already converted Scratch to Flash, why wouldn't they be able to convert it to Objective C?
3. Scratch just wouldn't work very well on a small touchscreen like that. I thought of a way it could work, but you're right.
#3 is the only big problem on there. I could see this being a possibility on the iPad, but the iPod Touch and iPhone are just too small.
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ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:
Harakou wrote:
This has been suggested many times before, and has been denied for several reasons.
1. It's against Apple's app store regulations. The concept isn't, but it really depends on what it's able to do.
2. It would be way too much work for the Scratch team. They've already converted Scratch to Flash, why wouldn't they be able to convert it to Objective C?
3. Scratch just wouldn't work very well on a small touchscreen like that. I thought of a way it could work, but you're right.#3 is the only big problem on there. I could see this being a possibility on the iPad, but the iPod Touch and iPhone are just too small.
1. The Scratch viewer app was rejected. I can't see why a Scratch viewer and project creator would be allowed.
2. Flash Scratch is still a long way from release, as far as we know. Converting from one language to another entirely different one is a lot of work.
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Harakou wrote:
ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:
Harakou wrote:
This has been suggested many times before, and has been denied for several reasons.
1. It's against Apple's app store regulations. The concept isn't, but it really depends on what it's able to do.
2. It would be way too much work for the Scratch team. They've already converted Scratch to Flash, why wouldn't they be able to convert it to Objective C?
3. Scratch just wouldn't work very well on a small touchscreen like that. I thought of a way it could work, but you're right.#3 is the only big problem on there. I could see this being a possibility on the iPad, but the iPod Touch and iPhone are just too small.
1. The Scratch viewer app was rejected. I can't see why a Scratch viewer and project creator would be allowed.
2. Flash Scratch is still a long way from release, as far as we know. Converting from one language to another entirely different one is a lot of work.
1. The reason the Scratch viewer was rejected was that it read projects from the Scratch website, which (in Apple's eyes) could be a potentially unsafe source.
2. Scratch users could help! nXIII is already converting Scratch to HTML and JavaScript.
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Harakou wrote:
ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:
Harakou wrote:
This has been suggested many times before, and has been denied for several reasons.
1. It's against Apple's app store regulations. The concept isn't, but it really depends on what it's able to do.
2. It would be way too much work for the Scratch team. They've already converted Scratch to Flash, why wouldn't they be able to convert it to Objective C?
3. Scratch just wouldn't work very well on a small touchscreen like that. I thought of a way it could work, but you're right.#3 is the only big problem on there. I could see this being a possibility on the iPad, but the iPod Touch and iPhone are just too small.
1. The Scratch viewer app was rejected. I can't see why a Scratch viewer and project creator would be allowed.
2. Flash Scratch is still a long way from release, as far as we know. Converting from one language to another entirely different one is a lot of work.
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scimonster wrote:
Harakou wrote:
ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:
#3 is the only big problem on there. I could see this being a possibility on the iPad, but the iPod Touch and iPhone are just too small.1. The Scratch viewer app was rejected. I can't see why a Scratch viewer and project creator would be allowed.
2. Flash Scratch is still a long way from release, as far as we know. Converting from one language to another entirely different one is a lot of work.
The flash player is still a long way from being an actual Scratch application. How long did it take for them to make that after they announced Scratch 2.0 was in the works? We really don't know when the finished product will be released, but "sometime in 2011" indicates that it's a big project and the Scratch Team doesn't really know when it will be done. My point is it's a lot of work for an application that ultimately wouldn't work all that well.
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Harakou wrote:
scimonster wrote:
Harakou wrote:
1. The Scratch viewer app was rejected. I can't see why a Scratch viewer and project creator would be allowed.
2. Flash Scratch is still a long way from release, as far as we know. Converting from one language to another entirely different one is a lot of work.The flash player is still a long way from being an actual Scratch application. How long did it take for them to make that after they announced Scratch 2.0 was in the works? We really don't know when the finished product will be released, but "sometime in 2011" indicates that it's a big project and the Scratch Team doesn't really know when it will be done. My point is it's a lot of work for an application that ultimately wouldn't work all that well.
OK, maybe it's not an actual application, but what about the experimental viewer? That's flash.
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scimonster wrote:
Harakou wrote:
scimonster wrote:
The flash player is still a long way from being an actual Scratch application. How long did it take for them to make that after they announced Scratch 2.0 was in the works? We really don't know when the finished product will be released, but "sometime in 2011" indicates that it's a big project and the Scratch Team doesn't really know when it will be done. My point is it's a lot of work for an application that ultimately wouldn't work all that well.
OK, maybe it's not an actual application, but what about the experimental viewer? That's flash.
And my point was that making said player took a lot of work, and it's still not perfected.
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chrischb wrote:
11. IPhone Scratch and so on
This has been there for a long time, but I never had all the information I wanted. But after a good hard dig, the information was found! Thanks to cocoanut for the idea.
All of us want to use Scratch on our cell phones, IPhones; pretty much any small handheld gadget that you have.
Sorry, but the answer is no.
They don't support Java, Squeak, or other neccessary things. There was a suggestion for Xbox, but... how are you supposed to program? Or was it for playing? It wasn't very clear, but still.
Magnie put it well:
Magnie wrote:
Scratch is made with Squeak, the online player is made with Java.
Well said... a single sentence can say it all.
Scratch Team has already said no, sorry.
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And Apple refuses to support Flash on their devices. Jobs calls it "outdated".
And so was the Apple website when it used Flash. As soon as Jobs stated his opinion, they removed it. Huh.
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