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PlayWithFire wrote:

I played this collab, fantastic job guys!  Our team is going to have a tough time against you guys!  One of the best games i've seen on scratch in a long time!

Yeah this is the first time the Scratch team has announced a contest so I went all out. Usually I don't have to really put too much thought into my projects. For more simple things like xmas beats, scrollers, and Scratch Jr the code is so simple I already have the scripts in my head and I just have to put them into Scratch. The only projects that have really made me push myself were collab monster, SSBS, and phoenix wright, and only this collab one was ever finished.

archmage wrote:

mkolpnji wrote:

archmage wrote:

After our victory is announced does any one want to make a pokemon style sequel to this? It would be so easy to modify at this point and so many people are craving a pokemon game. This could be modded to make a very realistic (in both gameplay and looks) pokemon game.

I think that would be pretty epic.

If this does happen, count me in.

Also, I posted a version of Collab Monsters with somewhat advanced AI on my test account. Basically, once an enemy monster has less than 50% of their HP left, than they are more likely to use an attacking move than a stat mod or status move.

I can update the main project with your version if you included my changes with the missingno boss.

Also its cool that you want to help with the potential pokemon game. I think you are one of the very few people on this site who can contribute to scripting this. I also think you got better at coding during this process, for example you couldn't make the HQ but you were able to modify if after I made it and understand how it worked.

Yeah, I really learned a lot from this.
At first I just dabbled a bit in the code, but as I began to understand it more and more, I found that it was easier change and add stuff.

I also learned that you can use broadcast something in a list, I never knew you could do that before.

Anyway, I'll quickly add the enemy ai to the missingno version.

I didn't really . . . enjoy it?

Things seemed okay at that first battle where you own the guy and it asks your name, but once I saw the town, it was just so crowded, and rushed looking.

soupoftomato wrote:

I didn't really . . . enjoy it?

Things seemed okay at that first battle where you own the guy and it asks your name, but once I saw the town, it was just so crowded, and rushed looking.

To be honest I don't really enjoy any Scratch games at all, they just can't compete with flash games. The town was kind of rushed and crowded because of the small screen and it was made a few days before the first due date. I understand how the lackluster town can put some people off but this project does a lot of things no other project does.

The lack of maps and just overall length is due to the time limits. What do you think we could have done better?

Last edited by archmage (2011-03-06 19:58:51)

If anyone wants to create a new thread for the upcoming pokemon game feel free. Not going to be programming too much this time around since most of its already done. Just modding the current project and adding in non-scrolling tilemaps will allow for a pretty large scale game.

The thing with the maps is that they absolutely must be tile based. So basically the maps are all lists like the monsters are in collab monsters. This is what a scratch tilemap looks like http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Locomule/1535376 and a decent pokemon game is impossible without this.

I am going to have to code a proper tile map editor when we start this.

I am thinking that after the tile map most of the programming is just going to be on the interface.

I think I will make the thread for this one.

Last edited by archmage (2011-03-07 21:06:31)

Well each tile is less than a kilobyte so you can use as many tiles as you like. How it works is for each map it stamps all the tiles according to a list. I was thinking that this would be a realistic version of one of the original pokemon games, though not quite as long due to time constricts. It could have gyms, routes, and the typical stuff though.

Well pokemon uses a very basic tile map which doesn't allow the player to stay between more than 1 tile. Look at locomule's version, its the same as that except in pokemon there is a walking animation when moving in to a new tile. I'll code it, it won't be too hard. The interfaces are going to take longer to code.

Last edited by archmage (2011-03-07 21:24:40)

All the tiles in the original pokemon game was less than 500 kb so that should be fine. I'll make the thread when I am ready to code the tilemap thing.

mkolpnji wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

I didn't really . . . enjoy it?

Things seemed okay at that first battle where you own the guy and it asks your name, but once I saw the town, it was just so crowded, and rushed looking.

Did you just stop playing the game just because of the town?
No offense, but saying that the game wasn't enjoyable just because you didn't like how the town looked is kind of... well yeah.
What other things made it unenjoyable? Try and give more constructive criticism.

Yes, I stopped playing cause it it felt crowded and unorganized. It set the tone of the game for me.

You should make building smaller (and pixel artish?) and get more organized.

Just so you know, game over doesn't mean its done. Press green flag and heal at the hospital to come back to life.

Yeah I agree that some of the art is rushed and Scratch's screen is small. With more time Animagus could have made something really great.

As for tutorials I wanted to put that in but again no time to do so.

Really the game is pretty short if you know what you are doing so I wanted players to explore the game and find ways to beat it on their own.

Thank you for your input 

==Remarks from the Scratch Team==

You must all be proud to have created such an amazing game. I can also tell a lot of time and work were invested in putting this together. You might also want to explain how you all worked together in your project description. Perhaps others can learn from your collaborative process. The introductory story at the beginning of the game sets the stage very nicely. I appreciate the skip button too during this section. As you build up your monster, you become more invested in its success and it moti