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#101 2010-11-28 00:20:51

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

Ha! That's awesome. Thanks.


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#102 2010-11-28 00:21:05

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

GlitchSprite wrote:

andresmh wrote:

Person A breaks the TOU using account X
Scratch Team Blocks Account X
Person A creates account Y
forever {
  if <Account X == blocked> {
      delete/block account Y
} else
    Scratch Team lets Person A use account Y
    Scratch Team lets Person A use account X
}
}

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i thought things like "account x" and "person a" would be variables
other than that its a pretty good visualization


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#103 2010-11-28 00:40:19

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

I really don't understand why it's such a huge deal.

Don't get me wrong. RHY is easily the best programmer ever to join Scratch, and he was a pretty cool guy while he was here.

That said, he was still banned. He could've just appealed it, uploaded the game to his original account and everything would be right. But he didn't. Honestly, you can't just let someone bypass a ban because they're popular or nice. That's way more biased than anything the Scratch Team did.

tl;dr: if you escape from jail, you'll just be thrown back in - that's how it works.

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#104 2010-11-28 04:57:11

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

rufflebee wrote:

Oh, that

Yeah I'd like an explanation for that too
But they probably aren't going to give us one, seeing that it isn't really our business

It's still not right
On formspring, TG told me they permanently blocked him under the suspicion that he was Rhy. That's like not letting an immigrant into the country because you think they're a terrorist
What if I said I was Rhy? I'll probably wake up banned tomorrow because I planted that idea into your heads


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#105 2010-11-28 05:31:47

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

I actually do agree that he shouldn't be unbanned, after all from the sounds of it, you offered him the chance to be reasonable and respect others and he turned it down.  doesn't sound like he deserves to be unbanned.

i do admit that it's sad though considering how talented RHY was when it came to programming, but it's own fault and I'm not going to dwell on it personally.


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#106 2010-11-28 07:34:07

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

GlitchSprite wrote:

http://i53.tinypic.com/107wbd1.png

If that were functional...
Anyways, that should go in the main post.

And I agree with 08jackt

08jackt wrote:

Fair enough to deleting all the other accounts-

But I do NOT think that deleting the "SketchGame" account was very fair or smart. I, and probably many others, saw it as RHY's way of saying good bye to the scratch community. He wasn't using it to comment or anything- he merely just uploaded one of, if not, the greatest projects ever. And you deleted it.

D:

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#107 2010-11-28 07:40:36

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

08jackt wrote:

Fair enough to deleting all the other accounts-

But I do NOT think that deleting the "SketchGame" account was very fair or smart. I, and probably many others, saw it as RHY's way of saying good bye to the scratch community. He wasn't using it to comment or anything- he merely just uploaded one of, if not, the greatest projects ever. And you deleted it.

D:

Samne here, did you contact him by email? Did he know about you trying to unbann his real account?


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#108 2010-11-28 11:59:45

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

recycle49 wrote:

08jackt wrote:

Fair enough to deleting all the other accounts-

But I do NOT think that deleting the "SketchGame" account was very fair or smart. I, and probably many others, saw it as RHY's way of saying good bye to the scratch community. He wasn't using it to comment or anything- he merely just uploaded one of, if not, the greatest projects ever. And you deleted it.

D:

Samne here, did you contact him by email? Did he know about you trying to unbann his real account?

Yep, it's all in the OP.


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#109 2010-11-28 15:43:29

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

Blade-Edge wrote:

It's still not right
On formspring, TG told me they permanently blocked him under the suspicion that he was Rhy. That's like not letting an immigrant into the country because you think they're a terrorist
What if I said I was Rhy? I'll probably wake up banned tomorrow because I planted that idea into your heads

Who's TG?


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#110 2010-11-28 15:44:51

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

antimonyarsenide wrote:

Blade-Edge wrote:

It's still not right
On formspring, TG told me they permanently blocked him under the suspicion that he was Rhy. That's like not letting an immigrant into the country because you think they're a terrorist
What if I said I was Rhy? I'll probably wake up banned tomorrow because I planted that idea into your heads

Who's TG?

Turngodshead, but anyway he said he wasnt Rhy... now hes gone...


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#111 2010-11-28 15:45:25

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

recycle49 wrote:

antimonyarsenide wrote:

Blade-Edge wrote:

It's still not right
On formspring, TG told me they permanently blocked him under the suspicion that he was Rhy. That's like not letting an immigrant into the country because you think they're a terrorist
What if I said I was Rhy? I'll probably wake up banned tomorrow because I planted that idea into your heads

Who's TG?

Turngodshead, but anyway he said he wasnt Rhy... now hes gone...

I thought it was turntechGodhead


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#112 2010-11-28 15:47:19

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

recycle49 wrote:

antimonyarsenide wrote:

Blade-Edge wrote:

It's still not right
On formspring, TG told me they permanently blocked him under the suspicion that he was Rhy. That's like not letting an immigrant into the country because you think they're a terrorist
What if I said I was Rhy? I'll probably wake up banned tomorrow because I planted that idea into your heads

Who's TG?

Turngodshead, but anyway he said he wasnt Rhy... now hes gone...

turntechGodhead?

Wait, so blocking can operate on pure suspicion?


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#113 2010-11-28 15:47:27

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

GlitchSprite wrote:

recycle49 wrote:

antimonyarsenide wrote:


Who's TG?

Turngodshead, but anyway he said he wasnt Rhy... now hes gone...

I thought it was turntechGodhead

WEll anyway its something of that nature


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#114 2010-11-28 15:48:27

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

antimonyarsenide wrote:

recycle49 wrote:

antimonyarsenide wrote:

Who's TG?

Turngodshead, but anyway he said he wasnt Rhy... now hes gone...

turntechGodhead?

Wait, so blocking can operate on pure suspicion?

Well accourding to blade TG Told him that he was permently banned.. so i gues so


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#115 2010-11-28 15:48:34

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

GlitchSprite wrote:

recycle49 wrote:

antimonyarsenide wrote:


Who's TG?

Turngodshead, but anyway he said he wasnt Rhy... now hes gone...

I thought it was turntechGodhead

It is...
Shame on you Scratch team! I don't think he's rhy! And I don't think anyone else still believes he is rhy!  mad


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#116 2010-11-28 15:50:21

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

XplodingEggs wrote:

GlitchSprite wrote:

recycle49 wrote:


Turngodshead, but anyway he said he wasnt Rhy... now hes gone...

I thought it was turntechGodhead

It is...
Shame on you Scratch team! I don't think he's rhy! And I don't think anyone else still believes he is rhy!  mad

Well it caused an whole upraor on his epic game, everyone said he was Rhy... i knew he wasnt.... he made a whole topic saying he wasnt Rhy


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#117 2010-11-28 15:52:52

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

I'm sad to see him blocked. He was a funny guy, if you got on with him.  smile

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#118 2010-11-28 15:54:01

recycle49
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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

kiwi95 wrote:

I'm sad to see him blocked. He was a funny guy, if you got on with him.  smile

He banned now...  sad  He was a great proggramer


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#119 2010-11-28 15:55:59

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

recycle49 wrote:

XplodingEggs wrote:

GlitchSprite wrote:

I thought it was turntechGodhead

It is...
Shame on you Scratch team! I don't think he's rhy! And I don't think anyone else still believes he is rhy!  mad

Well it caused an whole upraor on his epic game, everyone said he was Rhy... i knew he wasnt.... he made a whole topic saying he wasnt Rhy

He did?

Well, the only clue I've found to turntech possibly being RHY (except FMT's picture, which was later disproven) is his style of graphics.

And just because someone makes a game with good graphics like RHY's doesn't mean they're RHY.
^
That links to an example.


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#120 2010-11-28 16:00:21

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

antimonyarsenide wrote:

recycle49 wrote:

XplodingEggs wrote:


It is...
Shame on you Scratch team! I don't think he's rhy! And I don't think anyone else still believes he is rhy!  mad

Well it caused an whole upraor on his epic game, everyone said he was Rhy... i knew he wasnt.... he made a whole topic saying he wasnt Rhy

He did?

Well, the only clue I've found to turntech possibly being RHY (except FMT's picture, which was later disproven) is his style of graphics.

And just because someone makes a game with good graphics like RHY's doesn't mean they're RHY.
^
That links to an example.

Yep he did... but still graphics are no reason to ban, and FMT did what?


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#121 2010-11-28 16:02:36

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

antimonyarsenide wrote:

recycle49 wrote:

antimonyarsenide wrote:

Who's TG?

Turngodshead, but anyway he said he wasnt Rhy... now hes gone...

turntechGodhead?

Wait, so blocking can operate on pure suspicion?

No. Blocking of an account happens when two of these things happens:

1. Violation of the TOU, that is, being disrespectful or mean to members of the community via projects, forum posts, comment, etc.

2. Clear connection with the network of a an existing account that is blocked.

In addition, accounts can be unblocked if we reach an agreement with the people involved.


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#122 2010-11-28 16:03:40

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

andresmh wrote:

antimonyarsenide wrote:

recycle49 wrote:


Turngodshead, but anyway he said he wasnt Rhy... now hes gone...

turntechGodhead?

Wait, so blocking can operate on pure suspicion?

No. Blocking of an account happens when two of these things happens:

1. Violation of the TOU, that is, being disrespectful or mean to members of the community via projects, forum posts, comment, etc.

2. Clear connection with the network of a an existing account that is blocked.

In addition, accounts can be unblocked if we reach an agreement with the people involved.

So what was he blocked?

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#123 2010-11-28 16:03:49

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

andresmh wrote:

antimonyarsenide wrote:

recycle49 wrote:


Turngodshead, but anyway he said he wasnt Rhy... now hes gone...

turntechGodhead?

Wait, so blocking can operate on pure suspicion?

No. Blocking of an account happens when two of these things happens:

1. Violation of the TOU, that is, being disrespectful or mean to members of the community via projects, forum posts, comment, etc.

2. Clear connection with the network of a an existing account that is blocked.

In addition, accounts can be unblocked if we reach an agreement with the people involved.

So TG Was banned because he was rude/mean?


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#124 2010-11-28 16:04:49

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

XplodingEggs wrote:

GlitchSprite wrote:

recycle49 wrote:


Turngodshead, but anyway he said he wasnt Rhy... now hes gone...

I thought it was turntechGodhead

It is...
Shame on you Scratch team! I don't think he's rhy! And I don't think anyone else still believes he is rhy!  mad

Do not believe everything you read  smile


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#125 2010-11-28 16:05:05

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Re: The TOU on Scratch boil down to this: Don't be mean

RocksAndFire wrote:

andresmh wrote:

antimonyarsenide wrote:


turntechGodhead?

Wait, so blocking can operate on pure suspicion?

No. Blocking of an account happens when two of these things happens:

1. Violation of the TOU, that is, being disrespectful or mean to members of the community via projects, forum posts, comment, etc.

2. Clear connection with the network of a an existing account that is blocked.

In addition, accounts can be unblocked if we reach an agreement with the people involved.

So what was he blocked?

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