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#1 2010-10-11 19:42:54
- ScratchReallyROCKS
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Super turbo mode
Does anyone (aka nXIII) know where to change the step time in Scratch? I just want to make a super turbo mode, because I have projects that would really need it.
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#3 2010-10-11 19:54:01
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Re: Super turbo mode
henley wrote:
I'm sorry, if you want your projects to be fast, and not lag, then don't use Scratch.
I know that. But I also know that they purposely made the step time low. I want to know how to make it really fast.
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#4 2010-10-11 20:30:06
Re: Super turbo mode
henley wrote:
I'm sorry, if you want your projects to be fast, and not lag, then don't use Scratch.
You could put it in like 150 times, then it be much more faster than repeat 150
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#5 2010-10-11 20:43:24
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Re: Super turbo mode
recycle49 wrote:
henley wrote:
I'm sorry, if you want your projects to be fast, and not lag, then don't use Scratch.
You could put it in like 150 times, then it be much more faster than repeat 150
Except that I have something that repeats 44000 times.
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#6 2010-10-11 21:12:34
- soupoftomato
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Re: Super turbo mode
ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:
recycle49 wrote:
henley wrote:
I'm sorry, if you want your projects to be fast, and not lag, then don't use Scratch.
You could put it in like 150 times, then it be much more faster than repeat 150
Except that I have something that repeats 44000 times.
Thats a big number
IT'S OVAR 9000
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#7 2010-10-11 21:18:22
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Re: Super turbo mode
soupoftomato wrote:
ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:
recycle49 wrote:
You could put it in like 150 times, then it be much more faster than repeat 150Except that I have something that repeats 44000 times.
Thats a big number
IT'S OVAR 9000
Yeah. I'm making a virtual computer with 44000 bytes of memory. That's about 44 kilobytes!
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#9 2010-10-11 22:00:11
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Re: Super turbo mode
nXIII wrote:
Well, the problem now is that the execution engine isn't fast enough. If you want a faster Scratch in Turbo Speed, you have to rewrite the execution engine.
Okay, never mind then.
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#10 2010-10-12 00:06:32
- Jonathanpb
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Re: Super turbo mode
ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:
they purposely made the step time low.
WHAT!? O_o
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#11 2010-10-12 06:50:58
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Re: Super turbo mode
Jonathanpb wrote:
ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:
they purposely made the step time low.
WHAT!? O_o
Believe me, once I started using languages with a high step time, it got a LOT harder.
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#12 2010-10-12 07:26:27
- Billybob-Mario
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Re: Super turbo mode
ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:
recycle49 wrote:
henley wrote:
I'm sorry, if you want your projects to be fast, and not lag, then don't use Scratch.
You could put it in like 150 times, then it be much more faster than repeat 150
Except that I have something that repeats 44000 times.
You could have it ten times and repeat 4400.
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#14 2010-10-12 07:42:27
Re: Super turbo mode
oh. by the way, the step time is actually set to fastest in turbo speed (one action every 0 ms). The repeat loops have a 40 ms delay, you could change that to make it 1760000 times faster (i think). that still gives about 1ms per block execution + 44000 repeats (1 ms), which makes a total of 88 thousand ms per run.
That means the best you can get (in theory on a really fast PC) is 88 seconds per run!
EDIT
@coolstuff: you made it simple, but we said the same thing 
Last edited by LS97 (2010-10-12 07:43:22)
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#15 2010-10-12 15:10:22
Re: Super turbo mode
Let me explain how 'turbo speed' works versus normal Scratch speed (just to clarify things for people who haven't looked at the Scratch source):
Normal mode runs ALL the processes until they give up control (yield), then waits until the next frame (a set time).
Turbo speed runs processes CONTINUOUSLY until "time is up"--the frame time has run out. Then it redraws (once!) and does the same thing again.
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#16 2010-10-12 15:27:03
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Re: Super turbo mode
nXIII wrote:
Let me explain how 'turbo speed' works versus normal Scratch speed (just to clarify things for people who haven't looked at the Scratch source):
Normal mode runs ALL the processes until they give up control (yield), then waits until the next frame (a set time).
Turbo speed runs processes CONTINUOUSLY until "time is up"--the frame time has run out. Then it redraws (once!) and does the same thing again.
Yeah, I pretty much figured that much out myself by comparing how scripts run in the two modes.
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#17 2010-10-15 07:18:28
- TheSuccessor
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Re: Super turbo mode
You could compile the blocks directly into smalltalk.
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#18 2010-10-15 14:42:30
Re: Super turbo mode
TheSuccessor wrote:
You could compile the blocks directly into smalltalk.
Yea, at one point that was what I was doing with Blocks++.
But now Blocks++ either doesn't exist or is the same thing as JScratch, which in turn is the same thing as Panther 2.0.
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