Scratch

coolstuff wrote:

Blade-Edge wrote:

So they didn't even consult the moderators until recently?
I imagine this board room with the lights off, and there are 4 shadowy figures sitting across from each other plotting things
Dun dun dun
It's the Scratch team

We didn't hear about this until maybe two weeks ago. By that point the decision was pretty much final.

While in certain cases it may be a good idea to consult the community about a plan first, I don't think this would have been one of these times because the community really doesn't know all that much about moderating, the under-14 year old moderators are furious and thus would like to change the rules in their favour, and the over-14 year olds can see some reason to the rule as they are not blinded by anger.

Look, SOME of the younger scratchers do that, but not everybody is like that. There are other people which are mature that don't just want to change the rules to their needs.

I do see what the Scratch Team means. But I do think they're slightly over-exaggerating. If there are mods that aren't doing their jobs well, then the Scratch Team should just remove them but not requiring the rule  - but other than that, people like illusionist and dazachi can handle the different kinds of material on the Scratch Website. As far as how well they are doing as a mod, that's not up to me.

Lucario621 wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

Blade-Edge wrote:

So they didn't even consult the moderators until recently?
I imagine this board room with the lights off, and there are 4 shadowy figures sitting across from each other plotting things
Dun dun dun
It's the Scratch team

We didn't hear about this until maybe two weeks ago. By that point the decision was pretty much final.

While in certain cases it may be a good idea to consult the community about a plan first, I don't think this would have been one of these times because the community really doesn't know all that much about moderating, the under-14 year old moderators are furious and thus would like to change the rules in their favour, and the over-14 year olds can see some reason to the rule as they are not blinded by anger.

Look, SOME of the younger scratchers do that, but not everybody is like that. There are other people which are mature that don't just want to change the rules to their needs.

I do see what the Scratch Team means. But I do think they're slightly over-exaggerating. If there are mods that aren't doing their jobs well, then the Scratch Team should just remove them but not requiring the rule  - but other than that, people like illusionist and dazachi can handle the different kinds of material on the Scratch Website. As far as how well they are doing as a mod, that's not up to me.

With the current way the website is deigned, I don't think there is a way to separate what kind of material that Scratch moderators can handle - unavoidably, we all handle the same things. To repost what I've said earlier:

Keeping in mind that the Scratch Team wants this site to be safe for all ages, I would assume they [the Scratch Team] wants to extend the same thinking towards their moderators - considering what moderators have to see and do, this can only be extended so far. My assumption is that this is probably likely why they implemented the new rule requiring moderators be age 14 or older, as it seems to be a fair compromise with regards with what moderators have to face and the values that the Scratch Team wants to implement to all Scratch members.

Blade-Edge wrote:

But wait, there's something else
That 14+ thing would have been good earlier, but now there's the new scratcher ordeal
Things like that probably won't happen if it stays, so, what of it?

New Scratchers aren't always the cause of inappropriate content, you know. 

Just wondering, what did you choose to implement these age limits? Do you insist that 13 year olds are less mature?

littletonkslover wrote:

Just wondering, what did you choose to implement these age limits? Do you insist that 13 year olds are less mature?

The Scratch Team did not implement the rule with the belief that those under 14 are less mature. If fact, they feel that there are those under 14 who are mature. What they are uncomfortable with is those under 14 having to deal the issues that moderators have to face. To quote Lightnin earlier

Lightnin wrote:

I'm sure there are Scratchers who are younger than 14 who are responsible enough, and would do a wonderful job. But being a mod is a big commitment, and we don't feel comfortable asking Scratchers younger than that to take it on.

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fg123 wrote:

When my Scratch Club @ school starts, expect bout 20 more users piling in. 

I  told a few of my friends at school about Scratch and then there were people joining Scratch.

cheddargirl wrote:

littletonkslover wrote:

Just wondering, what did you choose to implement these age limits? Do you insist that 13 year olds are less mature?

The Scratch Team did not implement the rule with the belief that those under 14 are less mature. If fact, they feel that there are those under 14 who are mature. What they are uncomfortable with is those under 14 having to deal the issues that moderators have to face. To quote Lightnin earlier

Lightnin wrote:

I'm sure there are Scratchers who are younger than 14 who are responsible enough, and would do a wonderful job. But being a mod is a big commitment, and we don't feel comfortable asking Scratchers younger than that to take it on.

Lol it must be tiring repeating that message over and over
I don't see why they can't just go back a few pages and read it for themselves

fg123 wrote:

I have a scratch club.    I run one. 

What's a Scratch club?

Erm... I thought all the TBG mods but Ducky are 13... I think... So, is that an exeption? Or will all the moddies but Ducky get kicked?

fg123 wrote:

We should have a trial period. No rule, mods get elected, they get 1 week, if they do a good job, keep Community mod, if not, or if they complain, off they go.

One week isn't nearly enough time for a community moderator to learn the ropes! In fact, during our first month, we all ended up being terrible moderators! We grew out of that phase after that month, but to this day we are still learning. In a week it is impossible to show your true colours.

I remember when we were told to keep it cooled down (as we were still learning for the first month) for the first month, I thought, "I'm a fast learner, it can't take me more than a week." But the possible situations that can present themselves are endless.  It actually took us far more than one month to fully get the hang of things.

coolstuff wrote:

fg123 wrote:

We should have a trial period. No rule, mods get elected, they get 1 week, if they do a good job, keep Community mod, if not, or if they complain, off they go.

One week isn't nearly enough time for a community moderator to learn the ropes! In fact, during our first month, we all ended up being terrible moderators! We grew out of that phase after that month, but to this day we are still learning. In a week it is impossible to show your true colours.

I remember when we were told to keep it cooled down (as we were still learning for the first month) for the first month, I thought, "I'm a fast learner, it can't take me more than a week." But the possible situations that can present themselves are endless.  It actually took us far more than one month to fully get the hang of things.

Coolstuff is right. It is hard at first and still is. If you do become a mod, don't be scared to ask questions.

By the way, what if a candidate's parents don't know English?