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#1 2010-09-27 23:20:07

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My two-cents on parents.

Here's my 'philosophical' revelation I have seen from my own personal experiences about parents:

1. Kids are just "Video Games for Parents". They get to build them, change them, fix them, and do whatever they want, just like with simulation video games. It's their own little toy that they can play with however they want to.

2. Kids are what they're parents never were. Parents try to make their kids into whatever they (EDIT: They, as in the parents)never could be, or at least wanted to be. Their dreams and aspirations lie in all the things they have you do, mostly by force, rather than choice, even though they say, "it's for your own good", or "it's not healthy to be this way (as in not following what I say)".

Well that's my two-cents.

I also could tell you A LOT of how humans are SO like animals (not in the savage sense, but in the characteristic and behavior sense)-- but I don't have the time for that now  big_smile !

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#2 2010-09-28 05:37:11

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

Mostly, but some parents are different. My parents, for example, introduce me to a song that contains a word not suitable for Scratch. They're awesome. (My father finished the Halo 1 Campaign with me when I was 7)


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#3 2010-09-28 05:55:19

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

It's funny cuz it's true!!!
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#4 2010-09-28 05:58:29

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

helltank wrote:

My parents, for example, introduce me to a song that contains a word not suitable for Scratch.

My parents have introduced me to tons of songs with words that aren't appropriate for Scratch. My mom likes Eminem and Rage Against the Machine, and my dad likes Nirvana, Aerosmith, and Guns N' Roses. All of which I can name at least one song from that swears/is referenced to something not appropriate.

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#5 2010-09-28 06:43:37

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

Ludichris1 wrote:

2. Kids are what they're parents never were. Parents try to make their kids into whatever they (EDIT: They, as in the parents)never could be, or at least wanted to be. Their dreams and aspirations lie in all the things they have you do, mostly by force, rather than choice, even though they say, "it's for your own good", or "it's not healthy to be this way (as in not following what I say)".

true dat, my little sister watches a show about 4 year olds entering beauty padgents, while thier parents are ugly and obese.


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#6 2010-09-28 09:40:24

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

08jackt wrote:

Ludichris1 wrote:

2. Kids are what they're parents never were. Parents try to make their kids into whatever they (EDIT: They, as in the parents)never could be, or at least wanted to be. Their dreams and aspirations lie in all the things they have you do, mostly by force, rather than choice, even though they say, "it's for your own good", or "it's not healthy to be this way (as in not following what I say)".

true dat, my little sister watches a show about 4 year olds entering beauty padgents, while thier parents are ugly and obese.

...that sounds fail.


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#7 2010-09-28 10:03:57

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

I've seen that show. Jeez the parents are like Jabba the hut
Toddlers and Tiaras, right?


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#8 2010-09-28 10:30:59

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

Blade-Edge wrote:

I've seen that show. Jeez the parents are like Jabba the hut
Toddlers and Tiaras, right?

lol yeah, that's the one.


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#9 2010-09-28 13:33:37

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

PW132 wrote:

08jackt wrote:

true dat, my little sister watches a show about 4 year olds entering beauty padgents, while thier parents are ugly and obese.

...that sounds fail.

Yeah, I lol'd.  tongue

I personally think what you (Ludichris) said might be true to an extent. I won't have kids anyway  cool


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#10 2010-09-28 13:37:47

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

helltank wrote:

(My father finished the Halo 1 Campaign with me when I was 7)

Same here xD Well it was 8 years ago so I was 7 or 8.


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#11 2010-09-28 13:39:10

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

technoguyx wrote:

PW132 wrote:

08jackt wrote:

true dat, my little sister watches a show about 4 year olds entering beauty padgents, while thier parents are ugly and obese.

...that sounds fail.

Yeah, I lol'd.  tongue

I personally think what you (Ludichris) said might be true to an extent. I won't have kids anyway  cool

Me neither XD

There's obviously a good side to some parents to who want to help the kids do whatever they want (Which usually leads to spoiled brats, eh?), but it's not as common for the kid to be anything but a spoiled brat doing it this way. It's like you don't want discipline, but you need it. So ironic lol


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#12 2010-09-28 16:52:27

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

I would ban Toddlers and Tiaras for abuse if I could.

And use bad parents to model yourself better when you become one.


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#13 2010-09-28 18:04:34

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

Ludichris1 wrote:

1. Kids are just "Video Games for Parents". They get to build them, change them, fix them, and do whatever they want, just like with simulation video games. It's their own little toy that they can play with however they want to.

Unfortunately, as a parent, I can tell you that it's not nearly that simple.  There is no instruction manual, no cheat codes and the kids have this free-will thing that keeps getting in the way of what you (as a parent) may want.

Ludichris1 wrote:

2. Kids are what they're parents never were. Parents try to make their kids into whatever they (EDIT: They, as in the parents)never could be, or at least wanted to be. Their dreams and aspirations lie in all the things they have you do, mostly by force, rather than choice, even though they say, "it's for your own good", or "it's not healthy to be this way (as in not following what I say)".

I think there is truth to this...parents certainly want kids to benefit from the "wisdom of their elders".  So the parents try to guide their kids around the pitfalls they might have experienced and towards the rewarding areas.  Guidance only works up to a point, however.  Some things are not learned until they are personally experienced.


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#14 2010-09-28 18:19:46

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

Paddle2See wrote:

Ludichris1 wrote:

1. Kids are just "Video Games for Parents". They get to build them, change them, fix them, and do whatever they want, just like with simulation video games. It's their own little toy that they can play with however they want to.

Unfortunately, as a parent, I can tell you that it's not nearly that simple.  There is no instruction manual, no cheat codes and the kids have this free-will thing that keeps getting in the way of what you (as a parent) may want.

Ludichris1 wrote:

2. Kids are what they're parents never were. Parents try to make their kids into whatever they (EDIT: They, as in the parents)never could be, or at least wanted to be. Their dreams and aspirations lie in all the things they have you do, mostly by force, rather than choice, even though they say, "it's for your own good", or "it's not healthy to be this way (as in not following what I say)".

I think there is truth to this...parents certainly want kids to benefit from the "wisdom of their elders".  So the parents try to guide their kids around the pitfalls they might have experienced and towards the rewarding areas.  Guidance only works up to a point, however.  Some things are not learned until they are personally experienced.

Thankies for posting here! It's great to hear from an actual parent.  smile

I've learned in my fourteen years of being a child of a parent that they always have your best interests at heart, even when it doesn't seem like it.  smile

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#15 2010-09-28 22:27:12

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

rufflebee wrote:

helltank wrote:

My parents, for example, introduce me to a song that contains a word not suitable for Scratch.

My parents have introduced me to tons of songs with words that aren't appropriate for Scratch. My mom likes Eminem and Rage Against the Machine, and my dad likes Nirvana, Aerosmith, and Guns N' Roses. All of which I can name at least one song from that swears/is referenced to something not appropriate.

Whoa. MY parents are like that except my mom likes Nirvana and all that stuff and my dad likes Eminem and all that stuff o.o

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#16 2010-09-28 22:56:29

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

samurai768 wrote:

rufflebee wrote:

helltank wrote:

My parents, for example, introduce me to a song that contains a word not suitable for Scratch.

My parents have introduced me to tons of songs with words that aren't appropriate for Scratch. My mom likes Eminem and Rage Against the Machine, and my dad likes Nirvana, Aerosmith, and Guns N' Roses. All of which I can name at least one song from that swears/is referenced to something not appropriate.

Whoa. MY parents are like that except my mom likes Nirvana and all that stuff and my dad likes Eminem and all that stuff o.o

My dad's musical spectrum is limited to A) 70s-80s rock music B) The Beatles C) Classical and D) Jazz. All the music there came out at least a decade or two ago, and in some cases, hundreds of years ago

My mom's is a little more broad; she mostly listens to folksy music though.

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#17 2010-09-28 22:59:52

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

coolstuff wrote:

samurai768 wrote:

rufflebee wrote:


My parents have introduced me to tons of songs with words that aren't appropriate for Scratch. My mom likes Eminem and Rage Against the Machine, and my dad likes Nirvana, Aerosmith, and Guns N' Roses. All of which I can name at least one song from that swears/is referenced to something not appropriate.

Whoa. MY parents are like that except my mom likes Nirvana and all that stuff and my dad likes Eminem and all that stuff o.o

My dad's musical spectrum is limited to A) 70s-80s rock music B) The Beatles C) Classical and D) Jazz. All the music there came out at least a decade or two ago, and in some cases, hundreds of years ago

My mom's is a little more broad; she mostly listens to folksy music though.

Yeah, my mom and dad are pretty modern and up-to-date  tongue  I kinda wish we had more old-school stuff. I kinda feel overwhelmed with technology xD

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#18 2010-09-28 23:46:01

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

I agree that parents can be the way you described, but mostly that's not true. Parents mean the best and aren't just living vicariously through their children. (usually)

@coolstuff Your dad sounds like my dad. He's introduced me to almost everything I listen to, i.e. classic rock!  big_smile

@Helltank and steppenwulf, you guys are lucky. I'm 15, and still I'm stuck playing Halo 1 in secret because my mom's all paranoid about those games.  hmm

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#19 2010-09-29 01:37:54

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

Harakou wrote:

I agree that parents can be the way you described, but mostly that's not true. Parents mean the best and aren't just living vicariously through their children. (usually)

@coolstuff Your dad sounds like my dad. He's introduced me to almost everything I listen to, i.e. classic rock!  big_smile

@Helltank and steppenwulf, you guys are lucky. I'm 15, and still I'm stuck playing Halo 1 in secret because my mom's all paranoid about those games.  hmm

Bleh. Your mum sounds not very nice. Btw, new breakthrough:My dad recently downloaded California Gurls by Katy Pery into our car!(We like to open the windows and sing) And my uncle got me Left4Dead for my birthday.


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#20 2010-09-29 05:46:30

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

coolstuff wrote:

samurai768 wrote:

rufflebee wrote:


My parents have introduced me to tons of songs with words that aren't appropriate for Scratch. My mom likes Eminem and Rage Against the Machine, and my dad likes Nirvana, Aerosmith, and Guns N' Roses. All of which I can name at least one song from that swears/is referenced to something not appropriate.

Whoa. MY parents are like that except my mom likes Nirvana and all that stuff and my dad likes Eminem and all that stuff o.o

My dad's musical spectrum is limited to A) 70s-80s rock music B) The Beatles C) Classical and D) Jazz. All the music there came out at least a decade or two ago, and in some cases, hundreds of years ago

My mom's is a little more broad; she mostly listens to folksy music though.

My dad likes the Beatles, too, but he didn't really introduce them to me. Not that I remember, at least.
My dad likes Led Zeppelin, too. And Pink Floyd. And Metallica. And Van Halen. I could go on for quite some time  tongue 
Both of my parents love Elton John, too.


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#21 2010-09-29 07:32:54

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

rufflebee wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

samurai768 wrote:


Whoa. MY parents are like that except my mom likes Nirvana and all that stuff and my dad likes Eminem and all that stuff o.o

My dad's musical spectrum is limited to A) 70s-80s rock music B) The Beatles C) Classical and D) Jazz. All the music there came out at least a decade or two ago, and in some cases, hundreds of years ago

My mom's is a little more broad; she mostly listens to folksy music though.

My dad likes the Beatles, too, but he didn't really introduce them to me. Not that I remember, at least.
My dad likes Led Zeppelin, too. And Pink Floyd. And Metallica. And Van Halen. I could go on for quite some time  tongue 
Both of my parents love Elton John, too.

Ahaha, my dad used to make us clean the house every Saturday while listening through the Beatles. This was when I was like, four. I remember singing along to "Michelle"  tongue

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#22 2010-09-29 14:35:55

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

Hmmm... well at least that's my "opinion" on the subject, but thanks for the input-- and lol you guys really like talking about what music parent's listen too xD

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But I think my opinion is halfly based upon how I see my life right now. She takes me to piano lessons and coop (homeschoolers group) cuz so I can 1) Do good at what I have a talent for. "You have amazing talents! I'm trying to help you reach them and you deny", and for 2) "You really need to socialize more and get off your computer! It's unhealthy!"

I don't know about you, but I am the most uncommited person I know. Hence why I have had a drawing desk for 1 month my dad MADE me which I've only used twice, and taking me to piano lessons which I practice about 10 minutes a day for 4 days a week, sometimes less. Are you the type of person, who has so many ideas and dreams of things you could do, but you never do them? You don't feel like socializing with other people (at least in real life) because, well, you have nothing to relate with them and you don't find it as important? You feel like being alone, and don't do much of things? Sometimes I wish I was like 21 or something and I could leave my house. Go away from all this drama. But then on comes the jobs and taxes and what not. I think of becoming an escapist, but that doesn't really encourage me because I'm uncommitted! So all I do is play some games and watch sci-fi shows like star trek, fiddle around with trying, using and researching music, art, game development, etc. programs just as a slap in teh face about something I'll never reach, and something I can't do.

But maybe I can do it, if I just practice and go to college.
But right now, I'm not a happy camper D:
...especially since:
Ok my brother and I's Birthday is coming up, and it's next to Christmas too. He's getting a 400 dollar computer. Just a few days ago, I asked my Mom, "So mom, what's the 'list limit'? (as in money limit for what I can get for X-mas and B-day)" She says, "We and grandma and grandpa have already gotten you you're big present." "WHAT!? I never told you what my list was! Oh let me guess... it's that Yamaha keyboard for ONE HUNDRED THIRTY DOLLARS I showed you like, 6 months ago, that I was only interested in. But that's not even 200 dollars! Don't tell me you got me a grand piano or something." "I can't tell you what it is  wink " Then I mumble under my breath, "I never said I liked piano that much..."

Because what I wanted for my list was:
Guild Wars 2: Collector's Edition (not out yet, but money exchange works too)
ATI Radeon HD 5670 512MB
2GB DDR2 800 RAM
550 watt power supply

...totalling to 300 dollars, and I already have 105 dollars of my OWN MONEY I could use in there too. I also want some art/music/gamedesign programs too but, who am I kidding? Like I can fuel two things at a time... like I want to.

Bah, whatev. Discuss more stuff on your view of parents towards kids  smile

That's my two-cents on me.


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#23 2010-10-01 19:24:01

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

My dad let me try smoking.

(THIS IS TRUE. He said to try one puff so that when others want me to smoke, I won't be curious)


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#24 2010-10-01 19:37:24

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

Whilst my parents certainly aren't representative of the population as a whole, they've never tried to push me into a career path they wanted to do but didn't succeed in. Their main aspiration as far as I'm concerned is that I grow up to be equally as if not more happy and successful than them, in whatever walk of life I choose.


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#25 2010-10-01 19:38:26

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Re: My two-cents on parents.

helltank wrote:

My dad let me try smoking.

(THIS IS TRUE. He said to try one puff so that when others want me to smoke, I won't be curious)

I read the first line, and I was like "WWWHHHHAAAT"

and then you said why and I was liek...

That is genius!  yikes


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