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This technically counts as a sort of religious topic, since you're discussing the beliefs of atheism, and you asked us not to bring any other religions in 

Also, science =\= technology

antimonyarsenide wrote:

This technically counts as a sort of religious topic, since you're discussing the beliefs of atheism, and you asked us not to bring any other religions in 

Also, science =\= technology

Big bang =\=atheism

I'm really interested; I am an atheist, so I spend my excess time looking at this. I truly enjoy learning more about this; it really makes you think sometimes. I am with the convergence theory, that after the big bang trillions of years into the future, universes will collide and/or converge to form bigger and bigger Solar Systems.

I also think that after a while, the sun may go supernova; should that happen, I think we would be well prepared.

Also, I am interested in the theory of living on Mars; we might be able to melt the polar ice caps, causing water to flood some areas of the planet. Once the environment is suitable, we will proceed to plant trees and other natural oxygen-producers to circulate the air and hopefully make the dry red planet able to support human life.

Another thing; Planet X. a dwarf planet, far away that may be able to support humans without alteration to it's atmosphere and environment.

Macinjosh wrote:

stick to one thing please but since we're just starting we'll talk about anything this week not just the bb

you mean our sun is going to super nova soon? that's like a few million years off, maybe way more. but if it does become a super nova, we won't really survive. the earth will be charred and fried completely. think of the ending of the movie knowing where the fireball wave thing whipes out the humans [sorry spoiler alert]. imagine that like 100+ times biger and you have a supernova going off. well with our distance from earth im now sure, it's like what 1.2million km to the sun?

That's more or less why I brought up inhabiting different planets, especially Planet X.

Macinjosh wrote:

if we can somehow created teleportation with quantum physics, we can transport water without it costing so much. teleporting humans is near to impossible at this point, but simple h2o can be done

My idea of teleportation is the extremely fast transfer of matter from solids, liquids, or gases into the fourth state of matter, plasma, then commanding them to go to a certain place and return to its original state.

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Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

The problem with that is that it's literally impossible to get the matter back into it's exact same state. Imagine if a human went in accidentally carrying an apple or a small robot or even clothes. It wouldn't really matter because he'd be bonded to the various gases in the air like hydrogen and oxygen.

Interesting; there are several theories that you could possibly be fused to whatever you are carrying. That would be kind of scary. The idea of converting to a separate state of matter may not be the best idea.

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

Also the electricity in the brain would probably be screwed up,

Explain, please.

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

not to mention they probably won't return to something resembling their former cells. Maybe a large chunk of matter composed of all the different compounds that went in. If it was just water, dihydrogen oxide, it could still reform as O3 or H3, but it would be safer than having a human in it.

So the result could possible be a mixture of all three states of matter in some cases? That would definitely be interesting...

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

There's also the photocopying method where they send a copy of you somewhere, made of the exact same materials (like on Star Trek) but there's be no real way to get your copy's brain working.

Maybe that could be figured out later, but that would more or less defeat the purpose of transportation seeing as all you're doing is sending your clone to wherever you may have tried to teleport to.

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

Have either of you taken biology yet? There's plasma in your blood, and I don't really think it can be called a 4th type of matter.

Technically it's a mixture of liquid and gas.

No, I am 13. 

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

If you haven't taken biology I don't really know how to explain it.. it wasn't really my best subject either. There's chemicals in your brain which make it work, right? They work through reactions. The brain connects to other parts of the body sending electrical currents, with nerves. If the waves are interrupted, basically the signal won't be sent. A different current can screw it up. Anyways, if a copy of you was created or your matter transported, I don't know how you would get these currents back. It's been 3 and a half years since I've taken biology, this is the most I know.

Ah. I understand. Thanks 

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

How did the first life on earth evolve?

Gradual changes, I think. It slowly adapted to the area it was in. For example:
There is a first life form. We will call it A.

A lives in the desert, lets say. Some A migrate to the arctic. They slowly adapt. Through generations, changes are made. They get smarter, and different. They become B. Some A, that are now in the jungle, are now C. And so on until we have tons of evolved creatures.

Thats my theory.

wiimaster wrote:

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

How did the first life on earth evolve?

Gradual changes, I think. It slowly adapted to the area it was in. For example:
There is a first life form. We will call it A.

A lives in the desert, lets say. Some A migrate to the arctic. They slowly adapt. Through generations, changes are made. They get smarter, and different. They become B. Some A, that are now in the jungle, are now C. And so on until we have tons of evolved creatures.

Thats my theory.

how did a get to earths

???
What is Planet-X?
You Scratchers keeping some unearthed secret away from me  !!!

JeanTheFox wrote:

Macinjosh wrote:

wiimaster wrote:

Gradual changes, I think. It slowly adapted to the area it was in. For example:
There is a first life form. We will call it A.

A lives in the desert, lets say. Some A migrate to the arctic. They slowly adapt. Through generations, changes are made. They get smarter, and different. They become B. Some A, that are now in the jungle, are now C. And so on until we have tons of evolved creatures.

Thats my theory.

how did a get to earths

It didn't really "get" to earth so much as it "came" with earth.

The human (homo sapiens) has evolved and become more intelligent through a series of evolutions that began with the smallest cell.

The cell continually multiplied to create full functioning bodies like a general fish. Eventually the general fish developed limbs and was able to travel from land to water, becoming the first amphibians. Finally the amphibians developed lungs due to the amount of time exploring on land. They became reptiles, and developed scales to protect them from the sun. As you can see, some species of fish, amphibians, and reptiles were left behind.

At this point, the reptiles were still cold-blooded. They needed to lie in the sun for a while to warm up. To become more practical, the reptiles developed warm blood. They became mammals. Some developed thumbs, and others went in their own direction. Eventually the monkey developed itself, and we came from it. We became early cavemen. We started to walk erect due to the shifting of our vertebrae. After a while, we lost the lots of bodily hair due to shelter during winter, and our teeth became smaller in both amount and size because of cooked food.

I'm not exactly an expert, sorry for the rough description 

no ur wrong, the earth was entirely a sea of lava then pummeled with very heavy rain and junk at the beginnin of it. not possible for life to survive no matter how small, so how did the first cells arrive on earths

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Macinjosh wrote:

JeanTheFox wrote:

Macinjosh wrote:

how did a get to earths

It didn't really "get" to earth so much as it "came" with earth.

The human (homo sapiens) has evolved and become more intelligent through a series of evolutions that began with the smallest cell.

The cell continually multiplied to create full functioning bodies like a general fish. Eventually the general fish developed limbs and was able to travel from land to water, becoming the first amphibians. Finally the amphibians developed lungs due to the amount of time exploring on land. They became reptiles, and developed scales to protect them from the sun. As you can see, some species of fish, amphibians, and reptiles were left behind.

At this point, the reptiles were still cold-blooded. They needed to lie in the sun for a while to warm up. To become more practical, the reptiles developed warm blood. They became mammals. Some developed thumbs, and others went in their own direction. Eventually the monkey developed itself, and we came from it. We became early cavemen. We started to walk erect due to the shifting of our vertebrae. After a while, we lost the lots of bodily hair due to shelter during winter, and our teeth became smaller in both amount and size because of cooked food.

I'm not exactly an expert, sorry for the rough description 

no ur wrong, the earth was entirely a sea of lava then pummeled with very heavy rain and junk at the beginnin of it. not possible for life to survive no matter how small, so how did the first cells arrive on earths

NO. You are not keeping this respectful! You can't say people are wrong. Honestly, Nobody has proven anything yet, and its JUST OPINIONS! O-P-I-N-I-O-N-S! Gawsh!

It is not proven it was a sea of lava, so you can't say that!

My theory:

I think it was all water at first. Just small cells 'came' with earth when it was made, in the water. They slowly grew, and adapted, and changed to be different. They evolved.

Meanwhile, underneath all that water, tectonic plates were shifting. Some collided, buckled and created underwater hills. Then, as more plates shifted, land was formed.

The cells (Who were probably fish now. This was thousands of years past already) adapted to be on land. And then, they split even more and advanced to make animals what they are today.

That is my opinion. Anyone agree?