Scratch

johnnydean1 wrote:

lets get the viewer done first

true but that would be working backwards. If the viewer is going to be viewing our text based scratch project made with our new scratch we need to make this new text based scratch and a facility to decode normal scratch projects into text based scratch projects. Then make a viewer for the text based scratch! 

Daffy22 wrote:

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

Hey guys, maybe after we finish the viewer, we could try to remake Scratch in HTML and JS. It'll take a while, but I bet we can do it.

Yeah, thats what I thought! 

  <- happyface

Again, do you guys actually have any idea of what the .sb format actually is? Or are any of you proficient enough in Squeak/Smalltalk to look through the source code and gather full documentation on the format?

I hate to be a party pooper but at the moment, this looks to be a very ambitious project without any solid backing. And projects like that always falter and never get complete, without exception.

Last edited by S65 (2010-09-25 12:49:45)

S65 wrote:

Again, do you guys actually have any idea of what the .sb format actually is? Or are any of you proficient enough in Squeak/Smalltalk to look through the source code and gather full documentation on the format?

I hate to be a party pooper but at the moment, this looks to be a very ambitious project without any solid backing. And projects like that always falter and never get complete, without exception.

I'm not actually decoding the .sb file first - I'm making a HTML5 scratch! 

S65 wrote:

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

There's definitely exceptions! Think of Panther!

Panther actually does have solid backing as far as I can see (a development team fairly experienced with Squeak, Smalltalk, and the Scratch source code).

Also, if you're making an HTML5 Scratch, you'd probably need to know how Scratch itself does things if you want compatibility.

Interestingly, you're both right; having known so many other languages when I began Panther, I had a pretty good backing for actually writing it; however, when I started, I barely knew any Smalltalk.

But, to be more on-topic, I think I agree with S65.

johnnydean1 wrote:

Oh please stop the argueing and put all that effort to good use!

I agree. Has anyone finished anything yet?

Only problem with this is that you'd have to use some Flash to play MIDI notes and sounds because JavaScript can't play sounds. (I don't think, anyways...)

jackrulez wrote:

Only problem with this is that you'd have to use some Flash to play MIDI notes and sounds because JavaScript can't play sounds. (I don't think, anyways...)

There are some hacks to do it with embedded media elements, I saw one on Dynamic Drive.

nXIII wrote:

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

johnnydean1 wrote:

Oh please stop the argueing and put all that effort to good use!

I agree. Has anyone finished anything yet?

...see what I mean...

I would be getting stuff done, but between school and small trips on the weekends, I don't have a lot of time.

Daffy22 wrote:

you can play sounds in the bg in HTML5 and I can use the PHP if statement to trigger it to play

Yeah, I've been to some websites that have background music.

nXIII wrote:

Daffy22 wrote:

you can play sounds in the bg in HTML5 and I can use the PHP if statement to trigger it to play

Yes, definitely PHP, then you'll reload the page and if something's true that wasn't last time, you might just get a sound to play! 

oops yeah, I was getting my self confused... I mean JavaScript!     

Last edited by Daffy22 (2010-09-26 10:40:39)

hello, I don't know to much JavaScript, but I am hoping to learn. I have some good connections and could learn it fast. Can I join? So I can learn and perhaps help? I am a great web designer. I am good at object oriented languages, and I understand smalltalk quite well. I know lots and lots of CSS, and a good lot of HTML. I know enough HTML 5 to make a video player / music player.