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Nexstudent wrote:

Sunrise-Moon wrote:

Blade-Edge wrote:

I take it you're one of those people who think all Muslims are terrorists

I'm not. I think that Muslims can be good people.

...And I'll leave it at that so that we don't get this thread closed. Sorry for helping to kindle the religious discussion  .

Don't kick yourself for it ^^

Thanks  .

To add to the discussion, I was about three when it happened, and so I have virtually no recollection of the 9/11. Still, I acknowledge today as a day of great mourning.

The last 9/11 thread got closed because it would "Bring up bad memories" or something so I think this will get closed. I don't want ANYONE to quote or comment on this, but I think 9/11 was a hoax. I'm not at all biased against the government just because I'm Muslim, I know there are Muslim terrorists who claim to do things "in the name of God." But there is no way in the laws of physics that a plane crashes into a building from one side, and the building falls straight down just like in a planned explosion. And the metal frame in the building didn't melt and warp so the building fell down. If the metal really did warp, the building wouldn't NOT fall straight down.[/rant] Remember, no quoting/commenting/flaming or anything, just putting my opinion out. I truly feel sorry for everyone who lost their life that day.

steppenwulf wrote:

I think 9/11 was a hoax.

You know they have video of 9/11, right?

littletonkslover wrote:

Aidan wrote:

steppenwulf wrote:

I think 9/11 was a hoax.

You know they have video of 9/11, right?

And does that statement disprove anything he said?

Yes, that it was a hoax.

Pretty big hoax then, right?

You know, just kill some people, destroy two skyscrapers with a plane, have a blank lot of ashes in the middle of New York, fool a couple million people. Seems like the average hoax, no?

Must have been some extremists, eh, Steppenwulf?

Last edited by RobotKitty (2010-09-11 21:08:54)

steppenwulf wrote:

The last 9/11 thread got closed because it would "Bring up bad memories" or something so I think this will get closed. I don't want ANYONE to quote or comment on this, but I think 9/11 was a hoax. I'm not at all biased against the government just because I'm Muslim, I know there are Muslim terrorists who claim to do things "in the name of God." But there is no way in the laws of physics that a plane crashes into a building from one side, and the building falls straight down just like in a planned explosion. And the metal frame in the building didn't melt and warp so the building fell down. If the metal really did warp, the building wouldn't NOT fall straight down.[/rant] Remember, no quoting/commenting/flaming or anything, just putting my opinion out. I truly feel sorry for everyone who lost their life that day.

"Melted" Steel
Claim: "We have been lied to," announces the Web site AttackOnAmerica.net. "The first lie was that the load of fuel from the aircraft was the cause of structural failure. No kerosene fire can burn hot enough to melt steel." The posting is entitled "Proof Of Controlled Demolition At The WTC."

FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength—and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.

But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F.

"The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down."

Taken from:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol … ade-center

Paddle2See wrote:

It's fine to remember all the innocent people that died on this day years ago.  But please  leave the conspiracy theories and the political/religious opinions out of the discussion.  Thanks.

thank you

Blade-Edge wrote:

Paddle2See wrote:

It's fine to remember all the innocent people that died on this day years ago.  But please  leave the conspiracy theories and the political/religious opinions out of the discussion.  Thanks.

What about the other thing?

The other thing?

Blade-Edge wrote:

The people with the pictures of the twin towers burning in their sigs

That's not a religious discussion, and as long as the picture isn't too gruesome/realistic/creepy, I'd say it's probably fine.

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

PW132 wrote:

I feel depressed. Too depressed even to eat Robocop. ...This is 9/11, why am I cracking jokes? I'm a terrible person...

Also, I don't think anybody even gets the joke.

Fixed 

And I don't get it. 

JeanTheFox wrote:

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

PW132 wrote:

I feel depressed. Too depressed even to eat Robocop. ...This is 9/11, why am I cracking jokes? I'm a terrible person...

Also, I don't think anybody even gets the joke.

Fixed 

And I don't get it. 

Uh, what exactly did you fix?

RobotKitty wrote:

Ace-Of-Hearts wrote:

JeanTheFox wrote:

Fixed 

And I don't get it. 

Uh, what exactly did you fix?

It wasn't red.

What do you mean red? Anyways, stay on topic.