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#1 2010-08-05 17:07:27

hdarken
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Weird block!

I download a project and found this. http://i33.tinypic.com/2zgsodw.jpg


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#2 2010-08-05 17:08:41

coolstuff
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Re: Weird block!

That means the block is obsolete, or from an older version of Scratch. The project will still run, though.

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#3 2010-08-05 17:11:01

hdarken
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Re: Weird block!

coolstuff wrote:

That means the block is obsolete, or from an older version of Scratch. The project will still run, though.

I still don't get how a stack block can fit in a boolean.


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#4 2010-08-05 17:12:05

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Re: Weird block!

hdarken wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

That means the block is obsolete, or from an older version of Scratch. The project will still run, though.

I still don't get how a stack block can fit in a boolean.

It doesn't, but all obsolete blocks turn out as stack blocks in the end. You won't be able to fit the block back in, you'll notice.

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#5 2010-08-06 16:39:34

hdarken
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Re: Weird block!

http://i36.tinypic.com/4s1928.png Obsolete square root block.


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#6 2010-08-06 19:14:02

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Re: Weird block!

coolstuff already explained... why did you bump?  hmm


"Human beings... must have action; and they will make it if they cannot find it.
-Charlotte Brontë

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#7 2010-08-06 19:30:42

hdarken
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Re: Weird block!

Jonathanpb wrote:

coolstuff already explained... why did you bump?  hmm

I wanted to know why the used these Stage Monitor square root display. http://i36.tinypic.com/4s1928.png


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#8 2010-08-06 22:21:54

mathematics
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Re: Weird block!

That's not really a bump... Look at the date...

EDIT: I've just found that they are the same person...

Last edited by mathematics (2010-08-06 22:23:35)

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#9 2010-08-06 22:30:19

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Re: Weird block!

coolstuff wrote:

That means the block is obsolete, or from an older version of Scratch.

No, actually. A block that looks like that is just to show that the block it corresponds to doesn't exist. In Scratch's programming, the definitions for older blocks still exist so you can open older Scratch projects. Old Scratch blocks still have all the normal inputs and text, they're just colored red.


http://imageshack.us/a/img694/3806/sigmad.png

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#10 2010-08-07 12:44:26

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Re: Weird block!

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

That means the block is obsolete, or from an older version of Scratch.

No, actually. A block that looks like that is just to show that the block it corresponds to doesn't exist. In Scratch's programming, the definitions for older blocks still exist so you can open older Scratch projects. Old Scratch blocks still have all the normal inputs and text, they're just colored red.

Really? So how would one get such a block into a Scratch Project?

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#11 2010-08-07 13:08:02

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Re: Weird block!

coolstuff wrote:

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

That means the block is obsolete, or from an older version of Scratch.

No, actually. A block that looks like that is just to show that the block it corresponds to doesn't exist. In Scratch's programming, the definitions for older blocks still exist so you can open older Scratch projects. Old Scratch blocks still have all the normal inputs and text, they're just colored red.

Really? So how would one get such a block into a Scratch Project?

By adding their own block to Scratch (after looking in the Advanced Topics forum  tongue ) and uploading it.


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#12 2010-08-07 13:17:47

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Re: Weird block!

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:


No, actually. A block that looks like that is just to show that the block it corresponds to doesn't exist. In Scratch's programming, the definitions for older blocks still exist so you can open older Scratch projects. Old Scratch blocks still have all the normal inputs and text, they're just colored red.

Really? So how would one get such a block into a Scratch Project?

By adding their own block to Scratch (after looking in the Advanced Topics forum  tongue ) and uploading it.

Oh! That's interesting... It wouldn't working online or offline, though, would it?

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#13 2010-08-07 13:45:01

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Re: Weird block!

coolstuff wrote:

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

Really? So how would one get such a block into a Scratch Project?

By adding their own block to Scratch (after looking in the Advanced Topics forum  tongue ) and uploading it.

Oh! That's interesting... It wouldn't working online or offline, though, would it?

No, it wouldn't work online or offline.

Do mods have to deal with the 60 second rule?


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#14 2010-08-07 13:53:59

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Re: Weird block!

good question  smile
i'll investigate if no-one replies withi 1 min  big_smile

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#15 2010-08-07 20:03:01

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Re: Weird block!

LS97 wrote:

good question  smile
i'll investigate if no-one replies withi 1 min  big_smile

What's a good question?


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#16 2010-08-07 20:04:36

hdarken
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Re: Weird block!

coolstuff wrote:

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

That means the block is obsolete, or from an older version of Scratch.

No, actually. A block that looks like that is just to show that the block it corresponds to doesn't exist. In Scratch's programming, the definitions for older blocks still exist so you can open older Scratch projects. Old Scratch blocks still have all the normal inputs and text, they're just colored red.

Really? So how would one get such a block into a Scratch Project?

I created A project with the square root see.


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#17 2010-08-07 20:16:22

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Re: Weird block!

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

That means the block is obsolete, or from an older version of Scratch.

No, actually. A block that looks like that is just to show that the block it corresponds to doesn't exist. In Scratch's programming, the definitions for older blocks still exist so you can open older Scratch projects. Old Scratch blocks still have all the normal inputs and text, they're just colored red.

ACTUALLY Theres a secret. See you can change the color and text in a block in a secret way.

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#18 2010-08-07 20:27:21

bbbeb
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Re: Weird block!

Lol.

Lol.

Lol.

Lol.

Lol.

Shift-Click-R and drag it out into white space, recolor, and place it in.

Lol.

Lol.


Back in my day.... there were no laws that censored the internet... now, there are.... nah.

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#19 2010-08-07 21:12:24

hdarken
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Re: Weird block!

Intermaster wrote:

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

That means the block is obsolete, or from an older version of Scratch.

No, actually. A block that looks like that is just to show that the block it corresponds to doesn't exist. In Scratch's programming, the definitions for older blocks still exist so you can open older Scratch projects. Old Scratch blocks still have all the normal inputs and text, they're just colored red.

ACTUALLY Theres a secret. See you can change the color and text in a block in a secret way.

That's not it it's just obselete. And when you color it it only colors the edge and when you upload it it goes back to the default color.

Last edited by hdarken (2010-08-07 21:13:58)


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#20 2010-08-07 21:29:51

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Re: Weird block!

Intermaster wrote:

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

That means the block is obsolete, or from an older version of Scratch.

No, actually. A block that looks like that is just to show that the block it corresponds to doesn't exist. In Scratch's programming, the definitions for older blocks still exist so you can open older Scratch projects. Old Scratch blocks still have all the normal inputs and text, they're just colored red.

ACTUALLY Theres a secret. See you can change the color and text in a block in a secret way.

Um, I know how to do that already. (and it's not the way that bbbeb said)


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#21 2010-08-07 23:43:54

hdarken
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Re: Weird block!

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

Intermaster wrote:

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:


No, actually. A block that looks like that is just to show that the block it corresponds to doesn't exist. In Scratch's programming, the definitions for older blocks still exist so you can open older Scratch projects. Old Scratch blocks still have all the normal inputs and text, they're just colored red.

ACTUALLY Theres a secret. See you can change the color and text in a block in a secret way.

Um, I know how to do that already. (and it's not the way that bbbeb said)

I did not change the color.


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#22 2010-08-07 23:49:58

hdarken
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Re: Weird block!

This is how you get it you click on the square root box see. http://i36.tinypic.com/99iaae.png


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#23 2010-08-17 14:58:42

hdarken
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Re: Weird block!

It's different on the Experimental Viewer.


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#24 2010-08-17 15:03:36

coolstuff
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Re: Weird block!

hdarken wrote:

It's different on the Experimental Viewer.

That's because the Experimental Viewer doesn't run off of Squeak, while Scratch 1.4 does. Because Scratch 1.4 is a virtual machine, it is possible to make new blocks in Squeak and upload a project which will work while downloaded in Scratch 1.4. However, that will no longer be possible with the next version of Scratch.

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#25 2010-08-21 17:01:41

hdarken
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Re: Weird block!

Alot. http://i37.tinypic.com/t7zsw0.png


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