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#1 2010-07-16 09:57:03

JSO
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Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

Hi,

Imagine what would be possible if people could share and download sprites, sounds, backgrounds etc. right away from the Scratch Program...

I am also working on Scratch Resources. Most of you probably know, but I'll explain shortly anyway. On Scratch Resources everyone will be able to share sprites, sounds, scripts and backgrounds but all through a web interface. It should be released very very soon (maybe a week). So I was wondering if it would be possible to integrate SR with scratch - sort of like Scratch.mit.edu is intergrated with the Scratch Application. It could theoretically work perfectly, all that has to be done is some API server side (I'm good server side  smile  ) and quite some squeak coding. Now that's the problem, I'm really really bad at squeak/smalltalk  sad  ...

So, I made some mockups of what it could look like:

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http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4888/importsounddialog.png
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/8168/spritecontextmenu.png
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/7849/spriteuploaddialog.png

You guys all rock at smalltalk, I've seen amazing mods being made. Could someone please, please, please help me making this? You would receive just tons and tons of credit, I'd be sooooo grateful if someone could help me  big_smile

Joren


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#2 2010-07-16 10:01:58

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

that's beautiful! I hope they do it! The scratch team knows you exist, after all, you have a .scratchr.org domain name


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#3 2010-07-16 10:23:18

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

Wow, JSO! That looks awesome! I love the idea!  big_smile  That would make things a lot more user friendly.

Sadly, I'm not much of a Scratch Modification expert either, so I don't know much squeak/smalltalk.


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#4 2010-07-16 10:42:57

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

Thanks both of you gor the positive reaction!  big_smile
I really hope someone could help me making it...


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#5 2010-07-16 10:58:55

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

This looks amazing - too bad it won't be integrated into the real Scratch application.

I'd help, but I know no, or next to no Smalltalk or Squeak. I look forward to seeing what you and anybody else who decides to help will come up with!

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#6 2010-07-16 12:27:49

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

A week? We sort of have a lot to do  tongue

And I'm not sure if this would be easier or not, but how about just an application which you can download that is meant for uploading resources. The application can retrieve resources from the Scratch program, but you don't have to program it in Squeak.  big_smile


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#7 2010-07-16 12:40:20

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

It's the integration with Scratch that makes it useful, otherwise, a web app (as it is now) is even way better.

And I assure you it won't take longer than a week because I'm really in a hurry. You'll see ;D (let's continue sr discussion somewhere else)

Please, someone, heeeeeeeeeelp ;D;D


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#8 2010-07-16 12:41:49

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

JSO wrote:

It's the integration with Scratch that makes it useful, otherwise, a web app (as it is now) is even way better.

And I assure you it won't take longer than a week because I'm really in a hurry. You'll see ;D (let's continue sr discussion somewhere else)

Please, someone, heeeeeeeeeelp ;D;D

Wave? I have some questions.

And now I realize that Scratch would be the easiest. The web uploader is just as good as an application, so I get your point.


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#9 2010-07-17 05:25:33

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

Is noone interested?  sad


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#10 2010-07-17 09:34:03

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

Well you would first have to work out how to turn a sprite into binary and back again.


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#11 2010-07-17 10:01:08

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

I could help you with the online searching, etc. but I'd do it in PHP if that's OK with you  smile
I'm afraid I don't know how to make a project-upload-like dialog for sharing resources, but I'll look into it if you'd like.

So all in all, just tell me if you want me to do something  big_smile


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#12 2010-07-17 10:56:28

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

I like this idea! (Very nice mockups by the way)

EDIT: Oh, and Scratch Resources has been down for months, and your deadline for fixing it was 3 months ago.

Last edited by ScratchReallyROCKS (2010-07-17 10:58:19)


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#13 2010-07-17 11:19:52

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

nXIII wrote:

I could help you with the online searching, etc. but I'd do it in PHP if that's OK with you  smile
I'm afraid I don't know how to make a project-upload-like dialog for sharing resources, but I'll look into it if you'd like.

So all in all, just tell me if you want me to do something  big_smile

Thank you soooo much!

I would be very, very happy if you could make an upload dialog like the one in the mockup. You'll receive all credit you want that I can give xD

My idea was to build a (general) SR API (application programming interface) in PHP.

The upload dialog is the easiest because there is only a one time, one way communication: Scratch sends a file through a POST request to the Scratch Resources API. I think the Project Upload dialog already works that way so I hope it won't be to hard to adapt it for Scratch Resources

The search dialogs (integrated with the existing import dialogs) seem way more difficult to make to me (but also way cooler xD). The integration could work like this:
• User enters "cat"  in the search field in Scratch (mod)
• Scratch does a get request to something like http://resources.scratchr.org/api/search?type=sprite&q=the_search_term
• Scratch Resources API replies with a list of found sprites, file links, titles etc.
• Scratch presents them in a list
• User chooses sprite
• Scratch Downloads .sprite file and imports it

I think I might release SR later today or tomorrow btw.


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#14 2010-07-17 11:20:36

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

I like this idea! (Very nice mockups by the way)

EDIT: Oh, and Scratch Resources has been down for months, and your deadline for fixing it was 3 months ago.

Hang on - we will release today or tomorrow ;D


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#15 2010-07-17 11:25:22

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

Ooh, I can't wait for the new Scratch Resources! Congrats on almost finishing it!

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#16 2010-07-17 11:59:13

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

JSO wrote:

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:

I like this idea! (Very nice mockups by the way)

EDIT: Oh, and Scratch Resources has been down for months, and your deadline for fixing it was 3 months ago.

Hang on - we will release today or tomorrow ;D

Cool! I'll have to bookmark it.


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#17 2010-07-17 19:45:07

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

Yay! Scratch Resources is up again!


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#18 2010-07-17 20:02:34

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

Wow! This seems amazing, and I think it'll help me alot. I often search for sounds, but don't always find some for Scratch. GREAT JOB!


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#19 2010-07-17 20:58:32

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

I support.


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#20 2010-07-18 11:03:47

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

help?  smile


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#21 2010-07-18 11:15:21

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

JSO wrote:

help?  smile

Okay....I guess I'll look into it...


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#22 2010-07-21 06:53:14

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

*bump*


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#23 2010-07-21 10:45:41

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

BRILLIANT!

Freakin. Epic. Win.  tongue

I really love the idea.  big_smile


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#24 2010-07-21 11:52:17

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

I like it! Awesome idea!


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#25 2010-07-21 15:19:02

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Re: Scratch / Scratch Resources integration help?

nXIII wrote:

I could help you with the online searching, etc. but I'd do it in PHP if that's OK with you  smile
I'm afraid I don't know how to make a project-upload-like dialog for sharing resources, but I'll look into it if you'd like.

So all in all, just tell me if you want me to do something  big_smile

SHOOT!!! You beat me to it!


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