Scratch

midnightleopard · 2010-07-16 09:55:57

hey, could some one post a link to scratch.app? I need that file to make a mac compiler and I am on a PC

JSO · 2010-07-16 13:52:45

You can just download it from the Scratch Download page.

filo5 · 2010-07-16 14:27:36

But in DMG format. There's a workaround, though. DMG2ISO

midnightleopard · 2010-07-16 15:23:30

that won't help me. Also, BUMP

coolstuff · 2010-07-16 15:40:30

I can post a link tonight smile

midnightleopard · 2010-07-16 16:53:57

coolstuff wrote:
I can post a link tonight

thanks!

ScratchReallyROCKS · 2010-07-16 18:40:29

midnightleopard wrote:
hey, could some one post a link to scratch.app? I need that file to make a mac compiler and I am on a PC

Download the Squeak VM and run the image with that.

coolstuff · 2010-07-16 19:46:53

Here you go:

Click to download.

Apparently, Scratch.app is secretly a ZIP. Unzipping it led me to a series of folders that I didn't know about - though they don't seem all that useful. Downloading Scratch.app.zip just made it into an app, although I'm not sure if Mac OS X just tried to hide the fact that it was a .zip for me. Regardless, it should work fine.

midnightleopard · 2010-07-16 20:58:33

thanks man

songhead95 · 2010-07-16 21:57:35

coolstuff wrote:
Here you go:

Click to download.

Apparently, Scratch.app is secretly a ZIP. Unzipping it led me to a series of folders that I didn't know about - though they don't seem all that useful. Downloading Scratch.app.zip just made it into an app, although I'm not sure if Mac OS X just tried to hide the fact that it was a .zip for me. Regardless, it should work fine.

what are you talking about? Scratch.app is just a standard .app bundle. there are no secrets

Sunrise-Moon · 2010-07-16 21:59:18

coolstuff wrote:
Here you go:

Click to download.

Apparently, Scratch.app is secretly a ZIP. Unzipping it led me to a series of folders that I didn't know about - though they don't seem all that useful. Downloading Scratch.app.zip just made it into an app, although I'm not sure if Mac OS X just tried to hide the fact that it was a .zip for me. Regardless, it should work fine.

No, it's just that you can edit the contents of Mac applications yikes

songhead95 · 2010-07-16 22:44:12

Sunrise-Moon wrote:
coolstuff wrote:
Here you go:

Click to download.

Apparently, Scratch.app is secretly a ZIP. Unzipping it led me to a series of folders that I didn't know about - though they don't seem all that useful. Downloading Scratch.app.zip just made it into an app, although I'm not sure if Mac OS X just tried to hide the fact that it was a .zip for me. Regardless, it should work fine.
No, it's just that you can edit the contents of Mac applications

true is this- You can't edit actual compiled code, but you can change around .png files and such to mod them big_smile

ScratchReallyROCKS · 2010-07-16 22:47:47

songhead95 wrote:
Sunrise-Moon wrote:
coolstuff wrote:
Here you go:

Click to download.

Apparently, Scratch.app is secretly a ZIP. Unzipping it led me to a series of folders that I didn't know about - though they don't seem all that useful. Downloading Scratch.app.zip just made it into an app, although I'm not sure if Mac OS X just tried to hide the fact that it was a .zip for me. Regardless, it should work fine.
No, it's just that you can edit the contents of Mac applications
true is this- You can't edit actual compiled code, but you can change around .png files and such to mod them

false is this- You can edit the actual compiled code if you have XCode.

yeah, in the contents folder when you right click on an application, you can edit the icons, the property list, the plugins, and other stuff.

coolstuff · 2010-07-16 23:09:28

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:
songhead95 wrote:
Sunrise-Moon wrote:

No, it's just that you can edit the contents of Mac applications
true is this- You can't edit actual compiled code, but you can change around .png files and such to mod them
false is this- You can edit the actual compiled code if you have XCode.

yeah, in the contents folder when you right click on an application, you can edit the icons, the property list, the plugins, and other stuff.

I was not aware of this! I have XCode but I haven't used it much, so maybe this will be the debut.

songhead95 · 2010-07-16 23:44:04

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:
songhead95 wrote:
Sunrise-Moon wrote:

No, it's just that you can edit the contents of Mac applications
true is this- You can't edit actual compiled code, but you can change around .png files and such to mod them
false is this- You can edit the actual compiled code if you have XCode.

yeah, in the contents folder when you right click on an application, you can edit the icons, the property list, the plugins, and other stuff.

No actually, you can't edit the compiled code. you can view a disassembled dump, but that won't get you far big_smile

ScratchReallyROCKS · 2010-07-17 09:42:15

songhead95 wrote:
ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:
songhead95 wrote:

true is this- You can't edit actual compiled code, but you can change around .png files and such to mod them
false is this- You can edit the actual compiled code if you have XCode.

yeah, in the contents folder when you right click on an application, you can edit the icons, the property list, the plugins, and other stuff.
No actually, you can't edit the compiled code. you can view a disassembled dump, but that won't get you far

Yes you can, you just have to be good enough at programming. How else would developers update things if there was no way to do this? (In fact, if you are a REALLY good programmer, you can change anything about your computer, because everything is an application, just built differently than applications that you can run. It's the same thing on Windows, if you open the task manager and click on the processes tab, you can see all the executables that aren't actually windows.)

songhead95 · 2010-07-17 14:08:55

Yes you can, you just have to be good enough at programming. How else would developers update things if there was no way to do this?

No, developers recompile programs to update them.

ScratchReallyROCKS · 2010-07-17 14:27:22

songhead95 wrote:
Yes you can, you just have to be good enough at programming. How else would developers update things if there was no way to do this?
No, developers recompile programs to update them.

You can do a bit of editing, open the info.plist file and click the checkbox after 'Application as background only'

songhead95 · 2010-07-17 14:47:46

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:
songhead95 wrote:
Yes you can, you just have to be good enough at programming. How else would developers update things if there was no way to do this?
No, developers recompile programs to update them.
You can do a bit of editing, open the info.plist file and click the checkbox after 'Application as background only'

that isn't editing compiled code...
I'm talking about the executable file that actually IS the process located in

Contents/MacOS/(whatever)

you don't have to be a good programmer to edit an xml plist

ScratchReallyROCKS · 2010-07-17 14:53:25

songhead95 wrote:
ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:
songhead95 wrote:
No, developers recompile programs to update them.
You can do a bit of editing, open the info.plist file and click the checkbox after 'Application as background only'
that isn't editing compiled code...
I'm talking about the executable file that actually IS the process located in

Contents/MacOS/(whatever)

you don't have to be a good programmer to edit an xml plist

Yeah I know. Technically, you can edit anything, you just have to be good enough.

EDIT: Oh and this seems a little off topic now.

Last edited by ScratchReallyROCKS (2010-07-17 14:53:46)

songhead95 · 2010-07-17 14:54:33

ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:
songhead95 wrote:
ScratchReallyROCKS wrote:
You can do a bit of editing, open the info.plist file and click the checkbox after 'Application as background only'
that isn't editing compiled code...
I'm talking about the executable file that actually IS the process located in

Contents/MacOS/(whatever)

you don't have to be a good programmer to edit an xml plist
Yeah I know. Technically, you can edit anything, you just have to be good enough.

EDIT: Oh and this seems a little off topic now.

Well YES you can randomly guess values and replace assembly bits but NO you can not view or edit source
and we can be as off topic as we want, OP got his vm

Last edited by songhead95 (2010-07-17 14:55:10)

PythonLibrary · 2011-03-30 18:53:07

coolstuff wrote:
Here you go:

*LINK*
Apparently, Scratch.app is secretly a ZIP. Unzipping it led me to a series of folders that I didn't know about - though they don't seem all that useful. Downloading Scratch.app.zip just made it into an app, although I'm not sure if Mac OS X just tried to hide the fact that it was a .zip for me. Regardless, it should work fine.

Hey, how can I get this out of .ZIP format? I need it in just plain .app!

midnightleopard · 2011-03-31 19:22:53

PythonLibrary wrote:
coolstuff wrote:
Here you go:

*LINK*
Apparently, Scratch.app is secretly a ZIP. Unzipping it led me to a series of folders that I didn't know about - though they don't seem all that useful. Downloading Scratch.app.zip just made it into an app, although I'm not sure if Mac OS X just tried to hide the fact that it was a .zip for me. Regardless, it should work fine.
Hey, how can I get this out of .ZIP format? I need it in just plain .app!

rename it to .app

P.S I love python!

PythonLibrary · 2011-03-31 20:11:05

midnightleopard wrote:
PythonLibrary wrote:
coolstuff wrote:
Here you go:

*LINK*
Apparently, Scratch.app is secretly a ZIP. Unzipping it led me to a series of folders that I didn't know about - though they don't seem all that useful. Downloading Scratch.app.zip just made it into an app, although I'm not sure if Mac OS X just tried to hide the fact that it was a .zip for me. Regardless, it should work fine.
Hey, how can I get this out of .ZIP format? I need it in just plain .app!
rename it to .app

P.S I love python!

So how do I see .zip??

midnightleopard · 2011-04-01 16:54:04

PythonLibrary wrote:
midnightleopard wrote:
PythonLibrary wrote:

Hey, how can I get this out of .ZIP format? I need it in just plain .app!
rename it to .app

P.S I love python!
So how do I see .zip??

rename it to .app use your head!

Scratch

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Re: mac vm

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Re: mac vm

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Re: mac vm

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Re: mac vm

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Re: mac vm

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Re: mac vm

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#23 2011-03-31 19:22:53

Re: mac vm

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