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#26 2010-07-06 02:32:14

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

You know those little games where people are falling from the sky and you're controlling a mattress type thing on the ground for them to land on? Ever played that? Well, if you miss then the little stick figure person splats on the ground in blood. I don't play those games because I think they're too violent. Many parents wouldn't let their young children play games like that. So, if you make a project that involves, let's be honest, more detailed people than stick people, getting blown up, I can easily understand why parents wouldn't want their young children playing it. And Scratch, in case you didn't know, is supposed to be for people of all ages. That includes young children. So you're allowed to keep your project on the website, but the Scratch team has decided it's not suitable for the front page.

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#27 2010-07-06 08:51:07

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

calebxy wrote:

You know those little games where people are falling from the sky and you're controlling a mattress type thing on the ground for them to land on? Ever played that? Well, if you miss then the little stick figure person splats on the ground in blood. I don't play those games because I think they're too violent. Many parents wouldn't let their young children play games like that. So, if you make a project that involves, let's be honest, more detailed people than stick people, getting blown up, I can easily understand why parents wouldn't want their young children playing it. And Scratch, in case you didn't know, is supposed to be for people of all ages. That includes young children. So you're allowed to keep your project on the website, but the Scratch team has decided it's not suitable for the front page.

You aren't a child, you don't know anything about modern children. End. Of.

I'm just simply going to stop developing projects if mine are constantly monitored as "developed by a person banned twice" and blocked from the front page to reduce visibility.

THE PROJECT IS NOT INAPPROPRIATE

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#28 2010-07-06 10:18:42

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

RHY3756547 wrote:

THE PROJECT IS NOT INAPPROPRIATE

QFT


I mean really, this is going too far. This is why we should all start developing flash games as most flash game sites welcome detailed blood particle effects  smile
Those people could pass for robots any day...
Besides, how come the scratch team only cares about human victims for saying not appropriate for everyone...


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#29 2010-07-06 13:27:47

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

RHY3756547 wrote:

You aren't a child,

Not a child? I'm not even a teenager! I'm less than 13!!

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#30 2010-07-06 13:50:36

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

calebxy wrote:

RHY3756547 wrote:

You aren't a child,

Not a child? I'm not even a teenager! I'm less than 13!!

Your point? Summer is definitely appropriate for people under the age of 8.


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#31 2010-07-06 13:54:30

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

I involves people getting killing by a laser.


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#32 2010-07-06 14:17:39

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

calebxy wrote:

I involves people getting killing by a laser.

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/calebxy/1133998
That involves a cat getting 'killing' by lava. What's your point?

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#33 2010-07-06 14:21:34

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

When you hit the lava the game stops. The cat never dies.


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#34 2010-07-06 14:43:54

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

calebxy wrote:

When you hit the lava the game stops. The cat never dies.

I think it's the implication that counts.

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#35 2010-07-06 14:47:17

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

coolstuff wrote:

calebxy wrote:

When you hit the lava the game stops. The cat never dies.

I think it's the implication that counts.

Actually, in that game, you can hit the lava three times before the game stops, so there isn't actually the implication of death. (Coolstuff, in case you haven't noticed, this is turning into a flame war.  hmm  )


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#36 2010-07-06 14:49:24

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

calebxy wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

calebxy wrote:

When you hit the lava the game stops. The cat never dies.

I think it's the implication that counts.

Actually, in that game, you can hit the lava three times before the game stops, so there isn't actually the implication of death. (Coolstuff, in case you haven't noticed, this is turning into a flame war.  hmm  )

I suppose that's true - I didn't actually view the project so I don't really have a valid argument here  big_smile

I think if this gets any more out of hand, we'll close this. Keep it respectful and non-flameful, guys.

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#37 2010-07-06 14:50:32

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

calebxy wrote:

coolstuff wrote:

calebxy wrote:

When you hit the lava the game stops. The cat never dies.

I think it's the implication that counts.

Actually, in that game, you can hit the lava three times before the game stops, so there isn't actually the implication of death. (Coolstuff, in case you haven't noticed, this is turning into a flame war.  hmm  )

Not actually. RHY has a question, and we are discussing it. You saying that this is a flame war is huge bait to start a flame war.


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#38 2010-07-06 14:53:11

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

But then he accused one of my projects as being violent.


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#39 2010-07-06 15:12:36

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

adriangl wrote:

Not actually. RHY has a question, and we are discussing it. You saying that this is a flame war is huge bait to start a flame war.

It's another half-baked attempt to get me in trouble.

calebxy wrote:

But then he accused one of my projects as being violent.

You accused one of my projects as being violent.

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#40 2010-07-06 15:15:07

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

And the Scratch team agrees.


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#41 2010-07-06 15:15:45

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

calebxy wrote:

And the Scratch team agrees.

Does that make it any better?

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#42 2010-07-06 15:18:58

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

RHY3756547 wrote:

calebxy wrote:

And the Scratch team agrees.

Does that make it any better?

Well, yes.


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#43 2010-07-06 17:00:45

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

You guys are going to have to let this one go, and agree to disagree.

Getting into an argument isn't going to improve the situation. We'd prefer to keep this thread open for respectful debate, but if it continues this way we will close it.


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#44 2010-07-06 18:51:12

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

I don't like the way that there are no guidelines for violence in projects. What is considered too violent for the frontpage? My project mario rpg_revised features a monster attacking a human so is that violent? What about if a human character falls in a pit or bumps into a monster, is the human suffering in those also too much? I think the rules need to be more detailed because I think that Rhy's summer project is pretty mild so that brings up the question of "how mild should projects be"?  Also, people should be given a chance to change the project to get rid of the "not safe for all" status.

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#45 2010-07-06 19:00:34

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

RHY3756547 wrote:

calebxy wrote:

But then he accused one of my projects as being violent.

You accused one of my projects as being violent.

Don't fight fire with fire, you'll just get burned.

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#46 2010-07-06 19:37:36

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

I agree with you. You should be able to give warnings for your projects sort of like how Addicting Games does it. In fact, I'll post a thread about that.

archmage wrote:

I don't like the way that there are no guidelines for violence in projects. What is considered too violent for the frontpage? My project mario rpg_revised features a monster attacking a human so is that violent? What about if a human character falls in a pit or bumps into a monster, is the human suffering in those also too much? I think the rules need to be more detailed because I think that Rhy's summer project is pretty mild so that brings up the question of "how mild should projects be"?  Also, people should be given a chance to change the project to get rid of the "not safe for all" status.


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#47 2010-07-06 21:07:25

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

RHY3756547 wrote:

In my opinion furries are more inappropriate than blocks of pixels.

This.


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#48 2010-07-07 02:46:38

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

samurai768 wrote:

RHY3756547 wrote:

calebxy wrote:

But then he accused one of my projects as being violent.

You accused one of my projects as being violent.

Don't fight fire with fire, you'll just get burned.

Fight fire with sun laser beams. That'll show them who's boss.

Anyway, from what I see, the rules were always like this, but much milder, but now the Scratch team has suddenly made it more strict, and Rhy was the first caught in the storm. I understand how this would make him think the Scratch team has it out for him, I'm sure others do too.

Ah, yes, I forgot to get to the point.
I've seen blood drenched cats and wrecking balls destroying buildings on the front page.
In Rhy's project, all that happens is a pixel turns dark and disappears, it's not like a super blood gore fest with blood vomiting and eyeball ripping out.

However, if you are looking at it, that the humans are burning, blood boiling, flesh melting, you don't see that in the game.
In the wreckingball game, you don't see the people in the building, breaking their arms and legs, being flung onto sharp pieces of window glass, arms breaking off from the sheer blow, entire families, babies, dogs, young adults all being cast into oblivion, just for the fun of it.

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#49 2010-07-07 03:05:34

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

RHY3756547 wrote:

THE PROJECT IS NOT INAPPROPRIATE

It was barred for violence, not being inappropriate - otherwise it would have been removed from the site.


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#50 2010-07-07 03:15:07

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Re: "Summer" barred from frontpage?

I just looked at the project and it's still running fine, what are you guys talking about?

Sidenote: There is no way Summer will be removed from the site. It has virtually no violence.


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