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@marky:

yes, SDL is "better" than GLUT.

Newer, open-source, more expansive.

It's also more complex.

GLUT is much simpler to use than SDL. Erm, At the moment, that is the indication anyway.

Oh so we are just integrating libs?? And Headers??? i thought you wanted to start from a BLANK .CPP document?? Much easier. check out these.
Physics: http://bulletphysics.org/wordpress/
3d Models importation : http://www.opengl.org/
Audio: http://www.thefreecountry.com/sourcecode/audio.shtml
Online multiplayer (possible):http://gpo.zugaina.org/net-libs <or Sql server over a hamiichi>
Texture creation: gimp
Particle + Model creation: Blender
Example Of other engines: http://cubeengine.com   http://sourceforge.net/projects/openfury/
http://www.crystalspace3d.org/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=About+Crystal+Space

cds56 wrote:

markyparky56 wrote:

fanofcena wrote:

Um brother u actually jst need  Direct X SDK and that will be all (: or  XNA game development kit by microsoft

I have the XNA game dev kit, but id rather make it this way, much more customizble and re-usable.

Everything else marky has suggested is better, easier, and cross platform  .

SDL is probably a good way to simplify things, yes, a good idea.

Gotta love cross platform! All true though, that aside, if we had no other reason, developing a game and its engine from scratch = WAY MORE FUN!
Once upon a time, if you wanted to create a game you would create basic images in simple bitmap tool then use a command line compiler to write out how you want your game to behave/interact. It means we go back to basics only... well... we are not shooting 2d paint created bitmaps are we?
Anyway, In case of any doubt, I am in wherever I can help!

Sparkyasa wrote:

Lar-Rew wrote:

I know C but not C++... Is that close enough?

Me too, and I don't think so, C++ and C are two completely different languages.

But I think you can mix and match with C++, or C++ can atleast read it, I don't know if it can compile it though.

blackbird1676 wrote:

Oh so we are just integrating libs?? And Headers??? i thought you wanted to start from a BLANK .CPP document?? Much easier. check out these.
Physics: http://bulletphysics.org/wordpress/
3d Models importation : http://www.opengl.org/
Audio: http://www.thefreecountry.com/sourcecode/audio.shtml
Online multiplayer (possible):http://gpo.zugaina.org/net-libs <or Sql server over a hamiichi>
Texture creation: gimp
Particle + Model creation: Blender
Example Of other engines: http://cubeengine.com   http://sourceforge.net/projects/openfury/
http://www.crystalspace3d.org/tikiwiki/ … stal+Space

Yeah, but sometimes its easier to use libarys of headders and source files, writing every thing froms cratch would take far to long.

wildplayer wrote:

I understand that but will he use pictures and whatnot and put them in scratch

He has a name, and if you mean screen shots, then i don't know, im making an engine, not a game. The game will come afterwards.

markyparky56 wrote:

Sparkyasa wrote:

Lar-Rew wrote:

I know C but not C++... Is that close enough?

Me too, and I don't think so, C++ and C are two completely different languages.

But I think you can mix and match with C++, or C++ can atleast read it, I don't know if it can compile it though.

A C and C++ IDE: Dev-C++

cds56 wrote:

markyparky56 wrote:

Sparkyasa wrote:

Me too, and I don't think so, C++ and C are two completely different languages.

But I think you can mix and match with C++, or C++ can atleast read it, I don't know if it can compile it though.

blackbird1676 wrote:

Oh so we are just integrating libs?? And Headers??? i thought you wanted to start from a BLANK .CPP document?? Much easier. check out these.
Physics: http://bulletphysics.org/wordpress/
3d Models importation : http://www.opengl.org/
Audio: http://www.thefreecountry.com/sourcecode/audio.shtml
Online multiplayer (possible):http://gpo.zugaina.org/net-libs <or Sql server over a hamiichi>
Texture creation: gimp
Particle + Model creation: Blender
Example Of other engines: http://cubeengine.com   http://sourceforge.net/projects/openfury/
http://www.crystalspace3d.org/tikiwiki/ … stal+Space

Yeah, but sometimes its easier to use libarys of headders and source files, writing every thing froms cratch would take far to long.

wildplayer wrote:

I understand that but will he use pictures and whatnot and put them in scratch

He has a name, and if you mean screen shots, then i don't know, im making an engine, not a game. The game will come afterwards.

Marky, do you have flowcharting skillz?

Cause you'll need to make a flow chart of how the engine's mechanics will mesh, and a list of what to do, what needs to be done, and what has been done already(currently nothing?) , and order it in order of importance.

e.g.

1.

Yeah, i can do flow charts. but before i can do the flow chart, we need to know what we're going to include.

Heres a list of what I want:
3D in game rendering
Game pad compatibility
Quality sounds
Physics
Weapons
Landscapes
Lighting

Anything you want to add?

ah ahem all of u are really scratchers not programmer actually bullet physics etc are needed in HUGE games that can be sold i dunt think on this level of knowledge that is possilbe . No offence . but for a fun game u can simply programm the things 


BTW USE C# cause of Microsoft XNA toolkit its b8r then Dark GDK + UR GAme can be played on X box 360 *    and supporting directX means u can do anything even install videos in it also u guyz should read some source codes of regular softwares on net that helps a lot    .

I Hope u succed Marky And Group ,, BTW About DARK GDK wait for a month to see something thats Dark GDK at 100%

Last edited by fanofcena (2010-05-17 09:03:03)

xD marky wow what an answers LOL

btw jst 1 thing that u saw that DBZ thunderstorm teaser its MMO 

Sperry wrote:

Id help, but I only know the basics of C++. I dont know anything about SDL but I do have Dark GDK.

^Bumpy^

markyparky56 wrote:

Sperry wrote:

Sperry wrote:

Id help, but I only know the basics of C++. I dont know anything about SDL but I do have Dark GDK.

^Bumpy^

SDL is a libary of different files which might come in handy, so if you can read C++ then your ok.

Thankies! 

When do we start? I have VS2008 as well, just so you know

markyparky56 wrote:

Sperry wrote:

markyparky56 wrote:

SDL is a libary of different files which might come in handy, so if you can read C++ then your ok.

Thankies! 

When do we start? I have VS2008 as well, just so you know

Well, that depends on what we're putting in it. I posted a list, so if you want to add anything to that...

What list? 

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markyparky56 wrote:

Heres a list of what I want:
3D in game rendering
Game pad compatibility
Quality sounds
Physics
Weapons
Landscapes
Lighting

Anything you want to add?

A HUD
(and much later) proper destruction of objects, like walls, the ground.