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#1 2010-04-21 20:58:00

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Top Downloaded

Top Downloaded section on the front page.


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#2 2010-04-21 21:03:47

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Re: Top Downloaded

No. It's not needed.

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#3 2010-04-21 21:34:55

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Re: Top Downloaded

I say get rid of the top remixed section and put in the Top Dowloaded section.

I thought that section used to exist though.


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#4 2010-04-21 21:36:49

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Re: Top Downloaded

mkolpnji wrote:

I say get rid of the top remixed section and put in the Top Dowloaded section.

I thought that section used to exist though.

Yes, Top Downloaded did exist.

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#5 2010-04-22 02:21:30

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Re: Top Downloaded

BWOG wrote:

No. It's not needed.

Why? I remember that it displayed projects of complexity... they were downloaded so people could study the scripts and learn how to program better.

It would be helpful, in my opinion.  smile


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#6 2010-04-22 09:40:23

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Re: Top Downloaded

mkolpnji wrote:

I say get rid of the top remixed section and put in the Top Dowloaded section.

This.

Yes, it used to exist but I think they removed it because people would abuse it by saying the project runs better offline and similar stuff.


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#7 2010-04-22 11:02:30

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Re: Top Downloaded

technoguyx wrote:

Yes, it used to exist but I think they removed it because people would abuse it by saying the project runs better offline and similar stuff.

And remix chains are better?


Yeah, I say bring it back. I miss it. People would now fail to beat my script record, and it would be funny to own them.


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#8 2010-04-22 11:07:22

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Re: Top Downloaded

I like that idea.


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#9 2010-04-22 12:01:33

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Re: Top Downloaded

juststickman wrote:

technoguyx wrote:

Yes, it used to exist but I think they removed it because people would abuse it by saying the project runs better offline and similar stuff.

And remix chains are better?

Did I ever say they were better? Perhaps Top Remixed should be removed too, since it's not serving it's purpose of showing useful engines and stuff to base projects in anymore.


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#10 2010-04-23 06:15:16

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Re: Top Downloaded

Problem s, I can download a project 1000 times, and the little counter will go up 1000 times. Thats why they took it off.

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#11 2010-04-23 06:32:51

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Re: Top Downloaded

technoguyx wrote:

juststickman wrote:

technoguyx wrote:

Yes, it used to exist but I think they removed it because people would abuse it by saying the project runs better offline and similar stuff.

And remix chains are better?

Did I ever say they were better? Perhaps Top Remixed should be removed too, since it's not serving it's purpose of showing useful engines and stuff to base projects in anymore.

I agree... but there was a simple pong game a while ago.  smile
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Hmm... but would you really bother to download it that many times?  hmm  And people get banned for cheating the front page... it says when you make an account.


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#12 2010-04-23 09:00:57

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Re: Top Downloaded

Chrischb wrote:

technoguyx wrote:

juststickman wrote:


And remix chains are better?

Did I ever say they were better? Perhaps Top Remixed should be removed too, since it's not serving it's purpose of showing useful engines and stuff to base projects in anymore.

I agree... but there was a simple pong game a while ago.  smile
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Hmm... but would you really bother to download it that many times?  hmm  And people get banned for cheating the front page... it says when you make an account.

So you think someone will make 100 accounts to download a file 100 times? I doubt it.

Top remixed should be removed. The only thing I remember on there that was good was that mini-game project where you added a game to it.

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#13 2010-04-23 10:42:39

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Re: Top Downloaded

TheSaint wrote:

Problem s, I can download a project 1000 times, and the little counter will go up 1000 times. Thats why they took it off.

To do that, you'd need 1000 accounts since you can't get the counter up by downloading it in your own account.


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#14 2010-04-23 11:07:02

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Re: Top Downloaded

technoguyx wrote:

TheSaint wrote:

Problem s, I can download a project 1000 times, and the little counter will go up 1000 times. Thats why they took it off.

To do that, you'd need 1000 accounts since you can't get the counter up by downloading it in your own account.

An easy solution to that would be to detect who downloaded the project instead of simply counting how many times a project was downloaded (and IP addresses can be checked in cases where the multiple accounts issue is suspect).

While I don't like the prospect of Top Downloaded being abused, it certainly would be nice to have some access to it, even if it may not be on the front page. Top Downloaded had some interesting projects to look at, it would be nice to have some sort of way to get back to seeing what projects other Scratchers were downloading.  smile


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#15 2010-04-23 16:29:07

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Re: Top Downloaded

I really like it when it was there, the Top remixed area is just a waste of space now that it doesn't have any good projects on it anymore, and maybe the remix chains would die down if it was removed.


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#16 2010-04-24 02:58:17

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Re: Top Downloaded

Top Downloaded had good projects - I'd like to see some good projects on the front page again.

Of course, nowadays we'd probably get the usual stuff on Top Downloaded anyway.


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#17 2010-05-10 22:55:33

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Re: Top Downloaded

markyparky56 wrote:

I really like it when it was there, the Top remixed area is just a waste of space now that it doesn't have any good projects on it anymore, and maybe the remix chains would die down if it was removed.

I agree, the top remixed are always "add yourself" projects, stuff like that. If there was a top downloaded you could see why a project was top downloaded, and could help you with scripting. Remix chains definitely aren't helpful, but top downloaded would be.


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#18 2010-05-11 01:59:22

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Re: Top Downloaded

cheddargirl wrote:

technoguyx wrote:

TheSaint wrote:

Problem s, I can download a project 1000 times, and the little counter will go up 1000 times. Thats why they took it off.

To do that, you'd need 1000 accounts since you can't get the counter up by downloading it in your own account.

An easy solution to that would be to detect who downloaded the project instead of simply counting how many times a project was downloaded (and IP addresses can be checked in cases where the multiple accounts issue is suspect).

While I don't like the prospect of Top Downloaded being abused, it certainly would be nice to have some access to it, even if it may not be on the front page. Top Downloaded had some interesting projects to look at, it would be nice to have some sort of way to get back to seeing what projects other Scratchers were downloading.  smile

Ooh, so it would work like views!  smile


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#19 2010-05-11 06:13:18

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Re: Top Downloaded

I want to see this.


LINE would be right up there. xD


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#20 2010-05-11 11:21:09

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Re: Top Downloaded

iCode-747 wrote:

I want to see this.


LINE would be right up there. xD

Not really, its too old to be.


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#21 2010-05-11 11:59:34

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Re: Top Downloaded

markyparky56, iCode-747, 
Why not have a "top downloaded" in the last 24 hours, week, month, all time?
So you can just see those times: to the see top downloaded of all time, like LINE perhaps, but still be able to see the more recently top downloaded ones.


"top downloaded" is a good thought, but I think we could do better.
I believe the goal of this "Top Downloaded" idea is to feature projects that have merit to the community. BUT, "Top Downloaded" is only good at showing projects that were successful at getting people to download.
The projects might be better, or they might be tricks.  ( intentional or unintentional, Like my "Less is More" 0 sprite 0 script project got plenty of downloads, but there is nothing to see.)

Please consider the FaveTag idea.  I believe PER-TAG-VOTING would make TAGS on projects more useful and accurate, so people could find projects they're interested in.  The "games" tag would be like a front page for games, and have a "top tagged "game"" section, (perhaps sorted by last 24 hours, week, month, all time...) that I believe would help more than a "top downloaded" section.

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#22 2010-05-11 12:01:03

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Re: Top Downloaded

AddZero wrote:

markyparky56, iCode-747, 
Why not have a "top downloaded" in the last 24 hours, week, month, all time?
So you can just see those times: to the see top downloaded of all time, like LINE perhaps, but still be able to see the more recently top downloaded ones.

I like that idea.


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#23 2010-05-11 12:05:09

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Re: Top Downloaded

markyparky56 wrote:

I like that idea.

Great! But I'm also saying we could do better than "top downloaded."  Lets aim high!   smile

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#24 2010-05-11 12:08:03

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Re: Top Downloaded

AddZero wrote:

markyparky56 wrote:

I like that idea.

Great! But I'm also saying we could do better than "top downloaded."  Lets aim high!   smile

What could be better? What about a poll of specialy selected projects?


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#25 2010-05-11 12:21:55

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Re: Top Downloaded

markyparky56 wrote:

AddZero wrote:

markyparky56 wrote:

I like that idea.

Great! But I'm also saying we could do better than "top downloaded."  Lets aim high!   smile

What could be better? What about a poll of specialy selected projects?

Right! Projects voted by the community.  That's closer to what I'm suggesting. (in the last half of my above comment.) We already have "Love its" but we could do better than that too.  Make tags into votes.  So the community can easily vote how much a project is a 'game', or 'awesome'... but I don't want to highjack this thread.  Let's discuss it here. Or suggest a new idea you think would help us better.


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