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#1526 2010-08-24 18:09:20

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

rubiks_cube_guy238 wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

rubiks_cube_guy238 wrote:

It's called the 'Library'.

No, I don't think so  wink

Actually, I did a little researching, and according to the Scratch Reference Guide (http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Support/Reference_Guide_1.4), if you scroll down to Scratch Interfact, you can see it's called the Sprite List.

Yes, but the class is called ScratchLibraryMorph, not ScratchSpriteListMorph.

You can't always just go by what the technical name of it is in the source.

It's like saying that the Scratch Cat's name is "Sprite1" xD.


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#1527 2010-08-24 20:32:58

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

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fullmoon wrote:

I'll be in California until August 30th!

Where?  Can you come visit Berkeley?

San Diego, and no, I can't leave my family!  smile  But I'd love to go to school there someday. Maybe someday I'll come for a school visit.


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#1528 2010-08-24 21:19:57

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

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San Diego

Bummer!

and no, I can't leave my family!  smile

I meant with your family, of course, silly!  (Yes, I saw the smiley, but this is one of those bend-over-backward topics.)

Maybe someday I'll come for a school visit.

Well, have your visit before I retire in two years.  smile


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#1529 2010-08-24 21:24:45

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Now offense Berkeley, but I'm going for MIT (even before I started Scratch).

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#1530 2010-08-24 22:00:14

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

bharvey wrote:

fullmoon wrote:

San Diego

Bummer!

and no, I can't leave my family!  smile

I meant with your family, of course, silly!  (Yes, I saw the smiley, but this is one of those bend-over-backward topics.)

Maybe someday I'll come for a school visit.

Well, have your visit before I retire in two years.  smile

Aww, having you as a teacher would be so cool  tongue


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#1531 2010-08-24 23:19:10

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

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I'm going for MIT.

I can sympathize; I myself decided in third grade that I was going to MIT (based on a TV documentary).  (It never really crossed my mind that MIT might have something to say about it, but luckily college admission wasn't so competitive then.) On balance I'm glad I made that choice, but it's complicated -- ask me about it offline [EDIT: for example, on the wiki] if you want, lest I get scolded by Lucario for being too long-winded again.  smile

But you might still think about Berkeley as a potential second choice, just in case.  Or are you saying that you're 18 and about to start your freshman year there?

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#1532 2010-08-24 23:20:32

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

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Aww, having you as a teacher would be so cool  tongue

Thanks!  You can have me as a teacher remotely if you want: http://wla.berkeley.edu/cs61a


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#1533 2010-08-24 23:31:48

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

bharvey wrote:

Well, have your visit before I retire in two years.  smile

Yep, I'll be doing them next year!


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#1534 2010-08-25 02:53:15

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

fullmoon wrote:

Yep, I'll be doing them next year!

Cool, you can pick up your Alonzo pin.  smile


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#1535 2010-08-25 07:53:12

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

I have managed to hack BYOB quite easily to add turn fill screen off etc options to the menu. Now BYOB can be edited!


Have a look at some of my games. I made a cool physics game called "Physics Marble Cannon" which is really cool. I let anyone remix any of my projects without permission or credit necessary.

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#1536 2010-08-25 08:04:43

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

developdood wrote:

I have managed to hack BYOB quite easily to add turn fill screen off etc options to the menu. Now BYOB can be edited!

Billybob-Mario has already released a hacked BYOB on the Slash site.


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#1537 2010-08-25 08:07:08

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why is there "edit elements" in BYOB when you right click on a block that lets you edit all that?


Have a look at some of my games. I made a cool physics game called "Physics Marble Cannon" which is really cool. I let anyone remix any of my projects without permission or credit necessary.

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#1538 2010-08-25 08:10:13

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

developdood wrote:

why is there "edit elements" in BYOB when you right click on a block that lets you edit all that?

why not?


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#1539 2010-08-25 09:19:25

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I thought they wanted people to not edit BYOB images


Have a look at some of my games. I made a cool physics game called "Physics Marble Cannon" which is really cool. I let anyone remix any of my projects without permission or credit necessary.

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#1540 2010-08-25 09:39:59

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Hi developdood,

it's cool that you're interested in the BYOB source code (the Squeak system behind BYOB). Here's how you can easily access all of it:

if you download and install BYOB you'll find a batch file / shell script (for Macs) in your BYOB installation folder offering to start BYOB in development mode. If you do that and then shift-click on the EDIT menu you have all the development options from Scratch's developer's menu.

Enjoy!


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#1541 2010-08-25 10:54:04

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

In the costumes folder, there is the "gravity cat" sprite which is a picture of the Scratch cat but didn't the Scratch team not let you use that picture?


Have a look at some of my games. I made a cool physics game called "Physics Marble Cannon" which is really cool. I let anyone remix any of my projects without permission or credit necessary.

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#1542 2010-08-25 11:11:36

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

Must have been an accident.


Back in my day.... there were no laws that censored the internet... now, there are.... nah.

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#1543 2010-08-25 12:37:00

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

developdood wrote:

In the costumes folder, there is the "gravity cat" sprite which is a picture of the Scratch cat but didn't the Scratch team not let you use that picture?

Oops!  Thanks for pointing this out.  I looked  under "cat" but didn't think to look under "g" for gravity.  smile


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#1544 2010-08-25 17:28:32

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

bharvey wrote:

shadow_7283 wrote:

I'm going for MIT.

I can sympathize; I myself decided in third grade that I was going to MIT (based on a TV documentary).  (It never really crossed my mind that MIT might have something to say about it, but luckily college admission wasn't so competitive then.) On balance I'm glad I made that choice, but it's complicated -- ask me about it offline [EDIT: for example, on the wiki] if you want, lest I get scolded by Lucario for being too long-winded again.  smile
I'm trying really hard to keep my grades as high as possible. I'm also doing my best to learn as much as I can about math and programming before I get to high school.

I can't really think of any other college I'd want to go to. Berkeley sounds great, but it's hard to picture myself there instead of in Massachusetts...

bharvey wrote:

Or are you saying that you're 18 and about to start your freshman year there?

*Snorts* I'm a 13-year-old 8th grader! I'm only just starting algebra.

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#1545 2010-08-25 20:20:18

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

shadow_7283 wrote:

I'm trying really hard to keep my grades as high as possible. I'm also doing my best to learn as much as I can about math and programming before I get to high school.

I just wrote (on my talk page) a big thing about college, MIT, Berkeley, etc. but then I saw this and I'm about to reply (at some length probably) on your talk page.  smile


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#1546 2010-08-25 20:35:29

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I replied. Thank you very much for taking the time to write that!  smile

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#1547 2010-08-25 20:36:48

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shadow_7283 wrote:

I can't really think of any other college I'd want to go to.

I remember feeling that way...  But do you know about Caltech?  Just for example.

EDIT:  Or, for a different kind of example, if I'm remembering my geography correctly you're close enough to Colorado to be able to talk your parents into a trip to Boulder some time.  If people were listing all the famous computer science schools it'd take quite a while before they got down to the University of Colorado at Boulder.  But my friend Mike Eisenberg, who's on the faculty there, does just amazing work in all kinds of media, including computer programs to do Origami, and languages to control a "3-D printer" that lets you build any shape you want, and he's the kind of brilliant teacher who might turn your life around.  Go visit him -- tell him I sent you and he'll give you the grand tour.

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#1548 2010-08-25 20:54:52

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I'd love to...

but I live in Texas. XD

I replied again. Thank for your other speech!

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#1549 2010-08-25 21:44:57

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shadow_7283 wrote:

but I live in Texas.

I know!  Isn't Texas right below Colorado?


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#1550 2010-08-25 22:02:32

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Re: BYOB 3 - Discussion Thread

*spies on the discussion*

"All this learning has been of absolutely no benefit to me in later life, except that I know how to use a library, and I know how to find my way around a used book store, and I know how to think about reading conflicting stories from different sources, because of that interest."

Finding away around a library/used book store!??!? Gosh I wish I had that skill.... xD

But bharvey told me all about how much fun he had when he started algebra, and so did you Shadow... now I'm jealous!  tongue

@bharvey: Do you have any tips for doing good enough in classes like Spanish/French, Language Arts/English, or Social Studies so I don't have to put much effort in it so I can focus more on Math? And do u liek mah signature?  big_smile

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