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blob8108 · 2013-04-29 08:37:36

@brian: Are we still going to do that panel session? tongue

bharvey · 2013-04-29 11:51:39

Hardmath123 wrote:
From my experience, it's always more fruitful to first get something actually working and then make it faster.

+1

my raytracer

Is that supposed to be a grape doughnut?

blob8108 wrote:
@brian: Are we still going to do that panel session?

You mean "@Jens"; he's the conference scheduling guy. I'm up for as big a presence as we can manage.

Hardmath123 · 2013-04-29 12:44:28

bharvey wrote:
Is that supposed to be a grape doughnut?

Chocolate with strawberry frosting with yellow sprinkles. big_smile

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blob8108 · 2013-04-29 12:45:57

Hardmath123 wrote:
bharvey wrote:
Is that supposed to be a grape doughnut?
Chocolate with strawberry frosting with yellow sprinkles.

tongue

bharvey · 2013-04-29 12:52:26

Hardmath123 wrote:
yellow sprinkles.

Oh, is that what those are! Sprinkles are opaque. I thought it was some peculiar kind of reflection from yellow party lights! tongue

blob8108 · 2013-04-29 14:06:40

bharvey wrote:
...I'm still happy that Google isn't finding out anything about me.

I think I lost that one a few years ago. tongue

technoboy10 · 2013-04-29 19:02:13

blob8108 wrote:
bharvey wrote:
...I'm still happy that Google isn't finding out anything about me.
I think I lost that one a few years ago.

Same here. tongue

bharvey · 2013-04-29 19:17:14

blob8108 wrote:
I think I lost that one a few years ago.

Oh, well, I'm sure Google knows quite a bit about me -- for one thing, some of my friends have the bad taste to have gmail accounts. But at least they don't know about my web searches, like the ones about "how to cook 14-year-olds." tongue

EDIT: I know, you (blob) are >14, but 18-and-ups are much less tender and juicy.

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nXIII · 2013-04-29 19:57:05

bharvey wrote:
for one thing, some of my friends have the bad taste to have gmail accounts.

But…Gmail is so wonderful!

EDIT: I forgot to use a verb.

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bharvey · 2013-04-30 01:45:41

nXIII wrote:
But…Gmail is so wonderful!

Eh, one IMAP server is a lot like another IMAP server -- except for the part about them reading your emails and remembering them forever even after you delete them.

shadow_7283 · 2013-04-30 08:45:22

I like Google. They can target me with advertisements all they want, I don't think I've clicked on one in 3+ months (and then I think it was a newegg one) tongue Google Apps for Business is awesome (it used to be free but still is for me) and I think the privacy settings are stricter for that than regular Gmail. Plus YouTube has unparalleled video hosting, and Google has a nice sense of humor.

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bharvey · 2013-04-30 11:00:23

shadow_7283 wrote:
I like Google. They can target me with advertisements all they want

The ads themselves aren't the problem -- I never see ads anyway. (Thank you, NoScript. Thank you, AdBlock Plus. Thank you, Privoxy.) The problem is that all that information is sitting on Google's servers just waiting to be subpoenaed by Homeland Security or my health insurance company or (if I had one) my ex-wife. And also that they tailor my search results based on what they think will interest me -- unless I get there via DuckDuckGo.

YouTube is great (except for the part about hours going by invisibly while I'm watching kids try to eat cinnamon or something), but I wish there were a DuckDuckWatch scraper for it.

I'd be perfectly fine with Google if they kept my search history for, say, five minutes for targeted-ad purposes and made darn sure that history never got onto a backup medium. I'd even look at the ads. And yes, they perform many incredibly valuable public services (like the flu predictor), and they have a sense of humor, and they feed you when you visit them, and I don't hate them. I'm just scared of them.

By the way, Berkeley is about to use their Google for Education services instead of running our own email any more, and yes, they promise not to read our mail, so that we can use them without violating FERPA. But they don't promise not to read the mail of my dumb friends who use regular old gmail, so I'm still out of luck.

EDIT: Wrt "dumb friends," present company excepted, of course. smile

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roijac · 2013-04-30 11:06:57

@blob, I'm too lazy to find the kurt topic so I'll ask here smile : what is the <#changeVar:by:> doing in my scripts? yikes

bharvey wrote:
Thank you, NoScript. Thank you, AdBlock Plus. Thank you, Privoxy.

Ghostery! smile

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blob8108 · 2013-04-30 12:17:22

roijac wrote:
what is the <#changeVar:by:> doing in my scripts?

It's how Scratch stores what the "changeVariable" command is doing.

set [bob v] to [0] => Block('changeVariable', u'bob', <#setVar:to:>, u'0')
change [bob v] by (1) => Block('changeVariable', u'bob', <#changeVar:by:>, 1)

They changed this in 2.0 to have separate command names (much more sensible). It'll be fixed in Kurt 2, too. tongue

blob8108 · 2013-04-30 12:19:08

bharvey wrote:
18-and-ups are much less tender and juicy.

I'm not sure whether to be offended, relieved, or to run away screaming. tongue Is it still safe to come to Barcelona...?

Hardmath123 · 2013-04-30 13:03:45

I looked up the whoami command on wp for something and they explicitly mentioned it's a concatenation of Who Am I?… it's almost offending to me. tongue

Though if you read it fast, it could say "Woah, me!" which is just really, really cool. big_smile

bharvey · 2013-05-01 00:22:15

Hardmath123 wrote:
they explicitly mentioned it's a concatenation of Who Am I

Does it make you feel better to think about it in the context that there was a "who am i" command in Unix (that is, who(1) with two arguments) long before "whoami" existed? So you can think of that mention as a(n) historical reference rather than an explanation of the obvious.

EDIT: Happy International Worker's Holiday, eastern hemisphere people! (And Canadians in the Eastern time zone, I guess. It's still April in the rest of the non-US western hemisphere. (The US, too, of course, but in the US only we communists celebrate the holiday.))

EDIT2: Happy International Worker's Holiday, western hemisphere people! smile

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roijac · 2013-05-02 11:55:48

@blob, how do I check if a block is a command block?

blob8108 · 2013-05-02 12:21:57

roijac wrote:
@blob, how do I check if a block is a command block?

What's a "command block"? tongue

dreamod · 2013-05-02 12:23:56

blob8108 wrote:
roijac wrote:
@blob, how do I check if a block is a command block?
What's a "command block"?

I think he means a normal stackblock. The class is called CommandBlockMorph.

roijac · 2013-05-02 12:40:38

blob8108 wrote:
roijac wrote:
@blob, how do I check if a block is a command block?
What's a "command block"?

Oops, I meant a hat block big_smile

blob8108 · 2013-05-02 12:49:48

Uh... Try block.type.flag? I can't remember if that information exists anywhere.

dreamod · 2013-05-02 12:53:33

dreamod wrote:
blob8108 wrote:
roijac wrote:
@blob, how do I check if a block is a command block?
What's a "command block"?
I think he means a normal stackblock. The class is called CommandBlockMorph.

I jut realised this is irrelevant since this i js not squeak hmm

roijac · 2013-05-02 13:17:59

dreamod wrote:
dreamod wrote:
blob8108 wrote:

What's a "command block"?
I think he means a normal stackblock. The class is called CommandBlockMorph.
I jut realised this is irrelevant since this i js not squeak

python wink

@blob, flag is different from block to block tongue
anyway, since it's only three cases I just hard-coded them inside.

blob8108 · 2013-05-02 13:48:41

roijac wrote:
@blob, flag is different from block to block

Use:
type.flag in "KMS"
See BlockType.

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