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#1 2010-03-15 10:23:21

Larry828
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Windows mouse-wheel works everywhere but Project pages?

It's very convenient to scroll down the Home page at Scratch using the wheel on my mouse.  It also works on the "Projects" page, the "Galleries" page, the "Forums" page....everywhere but on an individual project's page.

When I view an individual project I have to move the mouse pointer to 'grab' the actual scroll bar at the side of the page and "pull" the page down to view the comments.

Somehow I don't feel it was always this way.  That, until recently, the wheel worked on project pages too.

Is this typical for Windows users?

Is there a reason why only the Project pages respond (or don't) in this way?

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#2 2010-03-15 11:24:48

ddss
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Re: Windows mouse-wheel works everywhere but Project pages?

Maybe because the project is on?


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#3 2010-03-15 12:08:59

Wolfie1996
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Re: Windows mouse-wheel works everywhere but Project pages?

The way you can scroll down without using the side bar on a project page is by left-clicking in the web browser, outside of the stage, then using the mouse wheel. It works on Windows XP, but I'm not sure about other Windows systems.

I'm not sure what causes it - but I know that this method worked for me.

Hope this helps  big_smile


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#4 2010-03-15 12:11:45

Larry828
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Re: Windows mouse-wheel works everywhere but Project pages?

ddss wrote:

Maybe because the project is on?

Even when the project is off the wheel doesn't work on the project's page.

Maybe the Project pages have to be coded differently than all the others. All the others are mainly "indexes" of projects.

But the Forum pages, full of postings, scroll fine with the wheel.

Mystery.

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#5 2010-03-15 12:46:44

Larry828
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Re: Windows mouse-wheel works everywhere but Project pages?

Wolfie1996 wrote:

The way you can scroll down without using the side bar on a project page is by left-clicking in the web browser, outside of the stage, then using the mouse wheel. It works on Windows XP, but I'm not sure about other Windows systems.

I'm not sure what causes it - but I know that this method worked for me.

Hope this helps  big_smile

What's even more mysterious is that I too have Windows XP, and even when I click anywhere on the page it doesn't work!  :-(

I'd think there was something wrong on my machine but it's only on Project pages that the wheel doesn't function...

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#6 2010-03-15 12:52:28

Wolfie1996
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Re: Windows mouse-wheel works everywhere but Project pages?

What browser are you using? It could be something to do with that...


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#7 2010-03-15 13:24:13

JSO
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Re: Windows mouse-wheel works everywhere but Project pages?

And did you try clicking on the white space of the page?

I'm quite sure it's just the Java applet having focus, taking away the scrolling.


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#8 2010-03-15 18:36:33

ThePCKid
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Re: Windows mouse-wheel works everywhere but Project pages?

JSO wrote:

And did you try clicking on the white space of the page?

I'm quite sure it's just the Java applet having focus, taking away the scrolling.

Speaking of focus, the Java applet gets focus when I hover over it >:-(

It wont scroll in FireFox (Yes it's version 3.6)

I only get this bug on the Scratch project player.

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#9 2010-03-15 20:06:12

Larry828
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Re: Windows mouse-wheel works everywhere but Project pages?

JSO wrote:

And did you try clicking on the white space of the page?

I'm quite sure it's just the Java applet having focus, taking away the scrolling.

I clicked *everywhere*!  After stopping the project.

ThePCKid says that it doesn't scroll in Firefox 3.6...and that's my browser and version.

Maybe the latest version of Firefox did it because I don't recall this having been a problem before.

And I agree with ThePCKid that this problem occurs only with the project player, no place else on the Scratch website....or any other website for that matter.

Does one report this sort of thing to anybody in particular?

Thanks everybody!

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#10 2010-03-16 07:14:44

JSO
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Re: Windows mouse-wheel works everywhere but Project pages?

I'll see, I also just installed FF3.6 (I'm at a School PC using IE now, I can't test yet  smile  )


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#11 2010-03-16 09:05:03

Ace-of-Spades
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Re: Windows mouse-wheel works everywhere but Project pages?

If you click the Stop All button, and then click on the scroll bar or on the screen, you should be able to scroll down. It sometimes happens when you're on YouTube too. The java is the focus instead of the webpage.


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#12 2010-03-16 10:11:55

Larry828
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Re: Windows mouse-wheel works everywhere but Project pages?

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

If you click the Stop All button, and then click on the scroll bar or on the screen, you should be able to scroll down. It sometimes happens when you're on YouTube too. The java is the focus instead of the webpage.

I just tried your suggestion online and nothing worked.

I clicked the Stop All button (several times during the experiment).
Clicked on the scroll bar.
Clicked on the left and right margins of the page.
Manually dragged the page down and clicked near the bottom (!).

The scroll wheel is dead on Project pages.  (Using XP and Firefox 3.6)

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#13 2010-03-16 10:20:38

Larry828
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Re: Windows mouse-wheel works everywhere but Project pages?

JSO wrote:

I'll see, I also just installed FF3.6 (I'm at a School PC using IE now, I can't test yet  smile  )

Big news: I closed Firefox 3.6 and loaded IE.

Went to Scratch, loaded the same project used in earlier experiments:

>>the scroll wheel worked fine!!

So it seems to be Firefox 3.6.

Who would we notify in a case like this?

Are there a lot of Scratchers at Mozilla who'll want to fix things??  :-)
Or could it be coding at Scratch?

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#14 2010-03-16 10:22:30

Ace-of-Spades
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Re: Windows mouse-wheel works everywhere but Project pages?

Oh I'm using IE too. That's why it works for me.


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#15 2010-03-16 11:45:43

JSO
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Re: Windows mouse-wheel works everywhere but Project pages?

It indeed just stops working when you click the project once in FF3.6! And notice that you can't properly type in the address bar anymore right after you clicked the project...

I'm moving this to troubleshooting.


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