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#1 2010-02-21 17:19:16

technoman
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Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

Me and my cousin are making an iPhone/iPod Touch application similar to Scratch. I was wondering what features do you want in it? Here are features that are going to be in it as of now:

Facebook integration
Twitter integration
OpenFeint integration
Multiple views with transitions
Transitions
Camera use
Menu Maker
Joypad
Accelerometer use
More types of variables
More powerful than scratch
New blocks
Possible text entry also
all blocks scratch has currently
and much much more.

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#2 2010-02-21 17:57:28

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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

Wow! That sounds really great, although I have no Iphone.  tongue
You should go looking around the suggestions section and research some good ideas there.  smile

Btw did you make your site wrensation with "webs.com?"

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#3 2010-02-21 18:38:49

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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

Okay, but will it be compatable with scratch? If not, that's the most important thing.

Really, all you need to do to make scratch for the iphone is to get the isqueak vm for the iphone and make a edited scratch morph that supports dropdown block menus instead of the scrolling square selector, an open and save menu, and  make it the res of the ipod's screen.(the ipad version will be easier when theres a squeak for it, because of the freedom with the screen size)

*EDIT* unless facebook and twitter integration are crucial and easy, make sure it works first, then add the cool stuff.

Tell me if you're using a squeak vm, or making a completely new program from scratch.(pun not intended)

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#4 2010-02-21 18:59:22

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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

cds56 wrote:

Okay, but will it be compatable with scratch? If not, that's the most important thing.

Really, all you need to do to make scratch for the iphone is to get the isqueak vm for the iphone and make a edited scratch morph that supports dropdown block menus instead of the scrolling square selector, an open and save menu, and  make it the res of the ipod's screen.(the ipad version will be easier when theres a squeak for it, because of the freedom with the screen size)

*EDIT* unless facebook and twitter integration are crucial and easy, make sure it works first, then add the cool stuff.

Tell me if you're using a squeak vm, or making a completely new program from scratch.(pun not intended)

We could make a new website, couldn't we?

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#5 2010-02-21 19:21:34

scmb1
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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

Sounds awesome! (even though I am iPhone-less)


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#6 2010-02-21 19:37:28

technoman
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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

Greenboi wrote:

Wow! That sounds really great, although I have no Iphone.  tongue
You should go looking around the suggestions section and research some good ideas there.  smile

Btw did you make your site wrensation with "webs.com?"

No I didn't use webs.com to make it.

@cds56:
I am not going to use squeak to make it. I am going to create my own engine and use objective-c to create it. The facebook and twitter integration are easy to do. The thing is that it won't be compatible from scratch because of the lack of a keyboard that isn't virtual. It will use touches and other gestures for gameplay along with maybe an on screen joypad that you could use or a HUD like other games. All options. Maybe a block could activate them for use.

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#7 2010-02-21 19:42:36

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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

technoman wrote:

Greenboi wrote:

Wow! That sounds really great, although I have no Iphone.  tongue
You should go looking around the suggestions section and research some good ideas there.  smile

Btw did you make your site wrensation with "webs.com?"

No I didn't use webs.com to make it.

@cds56:
I am not going to use squeak to make it. I am going to create my own engine and use objective-c to create it. The facebook and twitter integration are easy to do. The thing is that it won't be compatible from scratch because of the lack of a keyboard that isn't virtual. It will use touches and other gestures for gameplay along with maybe an on screen joypad that you could use or a HUD like other games. All options. Maybe a block could activate them for use.

The virtual keyboard works fine on my uh pda for emulators, and scratch 1.4 there, so there shouldn't be much of a problem, the only thing is that my pda has arrow keys like a built in physical buttons. uh, virtual arrow-keys are the only thing missing from the keyboard I think


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#8 2010-02-21 20:50:16

technoman
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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

cds56 wrote:

technoman wrote:

Greenboi wrote:

Wow! That sounds really great, although I have no Iphone.  tongue
You should go looking around the suggestions section and research some good ideas there.  smile

Btw did you make your site wrensation with "webs.com?"

No I didn't use webs.com to make it.

@cds56:
I am not going to use squeak to make it. I am going to create my own engine and use objective-c to create it. The facebook and twitter integration are easy to do. The thing is that it won't be compatible from scratch because of the lack of a keyboard that isn't virtual. It will use touches and other gestures for gameplay along with maybe an on screen joypad that you could use or a HUD like other games. All options. Maybe a block could activate them for use.

The virtual keyboard works fine on my uh pda for emulators, and scratch 1.4 there, so there shouldn't be much of a problem, the only thing is that my pda has arrow keys like a built in physical buttons. uh, virtual arrow-keys are the only thing missing from the keyboard I think

The keyboard takes up to much space in game. It would give you very little space to do anything else in the game.

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#9 2010-02-21 20:52:01

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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

It didn't on my pda( 240x320 resolution)


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#10 2010-02-21 21:03:56

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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

cds56 wrote:

It didn't on my pda( 240x320 resolution)

I am talking about the virtual keyboard of the iPhone/iPod Touch. It takes up half of the screen. It takes up too much room for it to display the whole time.

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#11 2010-02-21 21:28:28

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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

What I was about to say was ludicrous.

Some programs have the same issue that you're talking about, keyboard's too big, so they make the v-keyboard integrated, or custom designed for the program.

Which would work if your pda/iphone used a stylus, making it a simple matter of making buttons, or asking for someone else's code for one.

but since it doesn't use a stylus.......(lost train of thought)


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#12 2010-02-21 21:33:11

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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

The iphone keyboard will used very little only if someone needs to enter something. For other things, there will be options for showing a joypad or on screen controls to make it easier on the user programming it.

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#13 2010-02-22 15:43:16

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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

cds56 wrote:

Okay, but will it be compatable with scratch? If not, that's the most important thing.

Really, all you need to do to make scratch for the iphone is to get the isqueak vm for the iphone and make a edited scratch morph that supports dropdown block menus instead of the scrolling square selector, an open and save menu, and  make it the res of the ipod's screen.(the ipad version will be easier when theres a squeak for it, because of the freedom with the screen size)

*EDIT* unless facebook and twitter integration are crucial and easy, make sure it works first, then add the cool stuff.

Tell me if you're using a squeak vm, or making a completely new program from scratch.(pun not intended)

I have been looking around forever, I have a jailbroken iphone and was wondering how the heck to get the isqueak VM. Is there a cydia repo for it?

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#14 2010-02-22 18:06:02

technoman
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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

songhead95 wrote:

cds56 wrote:

Okay, but will it be compatable with scratch? If not, that's the most important thing.

Really, all you need to do to make scratch for the iphone is to get the isqueak vm for the iphone and make a edited scratch morph that supports dropdown block menus instead of the scrolling square selector, an open and save menu, and  make it the res of the ipod's screen.(the ipad version will be easier when theres a squeak for it, because of the freedom with the screen size)

*EDIT* unless facebook and twitter integration are crucial and easy, make sure it works first, then add the cool stuff.

Tell me if you're using a squeak vm, or making a completely new program from scratch.(pun not intended)

I have been looking around forever, I have a jailbroken iphone and was wondering how the heck to get the isqueak VM. Is there a cydia repo for it?

I am not sure if there is a cydia repo for it or not. But I do know is that Scratch for iPhone should never be programmed using such an outdated and weak programming language.

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#15 2010-02-22 19:22:08

Louis2018
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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

you need to let it upload a project to www.scratch.mit.edu

P.S. How much is this going to cost?


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#16 2010-02-22 20:50:20

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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

songhead95 wrote:

cds56 wrote:

Okay, but will it be compatable with scratch? If not, that's the most important thing.

Really, all you need to do to make scratch for the iphone is to get the isqueak vm for the iphone and make a edited scratch morph that supports dropdown block menus instead of the scrolling square selector, an open and save menu, and  make it the res of the ipod's screen.(the ipad version will be easier when theres a squeak for it, because of the freedom with the screen size)

*EDIT* unless facebook and twitter integration are crucial and easy, make sure it works first, then add the cool stuff.

Tell me if you're using a squeak vm, or making a completely new program from scratch.(pun not intended)

I have been looking around forever, I have a jailbroken iphone and was wondering how the heck to get the isqueak VM. Is there a cydia repo for it?

what's a cydia repo?

anyways, iSqueak is here:

http://isqueak.org/HomePage

TADA! although I don't know what it's potential is, It should work with a scratch image, or just plain squeak.


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#17 2010-02-22 22:36:56

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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

I don't want to use squeak or isqueak for the coding of it. Squeak is outdated and not very powerful and should have NEVER been used for the making of Scratch. By the time this app is done, it will be more powerful than scratch is and much much better. I probably won't call it iscratch because of the huge improvements I am going to have along with tons of new features.

@Louis2018:
I am not sure about price at this point, but it will be decently priced for what it is able to do. Look forward to it being 0.99 - 9.99. It will probably sit at about 2.99 when everything is said and done. Maybe more. Not sure.


@everyone:
Anyone have any ideas for names?

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#18 2010-02-22 22:41:14

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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

iScrode. Just an idea for a name.
IphoneSCRatchcODE


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#19 2010-02-22 22:52:20

technoman
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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

Greatdane wrote:

iScrode. Just an idea for a name.
IphoneSCRatchcODE

Not bad. Maybe iCode? Or AppMaker? Or something else?

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#20 2010-02-23 00:26:47

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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

technoman wrote:

Greatdane wrote:

iScrode. Just an idea for a name.
IphoneSCRatchcODE

Not bad. Maybe iCode? Or AppMaker? Or something else?

AppMaker? Most definetely taken.
iCode? Probably taken.  tongue


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#21 2010-02-23 17:08:21

technoman
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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

Greatdane wrote:

technoman wrote:

Greatdane wrote:

iScrode. Just an idea for a name.
IphoneSCRatchcODE

Not bad. Maybe iCode? Or AppMaker? Or something else?

AppMaker? Most definetely taken.

Yeah I thought that might be taken. So, I will call it iCode.

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#22 2010-02-23 21:32:20

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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

Is this going to be a free app?


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#23 2010-02-25 18:36:20

technoman
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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

Not sure. Probably not.

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#24 2010-02-25 18:45:49

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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

technoman wrote:

Not sure. Probably not.

Hopefully it will.....

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#25 2010-02-26 14:00:58

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Re: Scratch For iPhone. The Real Deal

technoman wrote:

Me and my cousin are making an iPhone/iPod Touch application similar to Scratch. I was wondering what features do you want in it? Here are features that are going to be in it as of now:

Facebook integration
Twitter integration
OpenFeint integration
Multiple views with transitions
Transitions
Menu Maker
Joypad
Accelerometer use
More types of variables
More powerful than scratch
New blocks
Possible text entry also
all blocks scratch has currently
and much much more.

It's so interesting that your idea was posted DIRECTLY after mine, and is almost a complete copy of mine too.  sad

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