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Space War 4 is probably the hardest I have ever worked...

..but I think 1sprite 1script platformers are hardest. 

illusionist wrote:

Space War 4 is probably the hardest I have ever worked...

..but I think 1sprite 1script platformers are hardest. 

1 sprite 1 script platformers? I'll add that to the list...

Although I think they're pretty simple, the hard part is reducing lag.

All of them are very easy - except I haven't tried making some of them. FPS is always a limit - but doesn't make something harder to make.

I think a game with a working, rolling ball would be the hardest to make.

Last edited by Ace-of-Spades (2010-02-15 15:54:51)

technoguyx wrote:

A first person shooter. I think I know how to make some of it's features but I've never tried them... I will try now 

True first person shooters are impossible in scratch, only a rail-shooter is possible.

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

What's a rail shooter?

To my knowledge it's a fps without free camera rotation.

demosthenes wrote:

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

What's a rail shooter?

To my knowledge it's a fps without free camera rotation.

No, it's a FPS where you use a rail gun
No, it's a first person shooter where you don't get to move, all you do is shoot and hide

1S 1S Platformer is the most likely for the disappearing scripts...

Ace-of-Spades wrote:

The 3D Shooter I was making requires about 4 times 30 backgrounds. But I don't know which lags more, in terms of sprite vs. backgrounds.

Sprites lag a lot more than backgrounds.

Good. Can someone give the link to a 3D Shooter that lets you move?

demosthenes wrote:

technoguyx wrote:

A first person shooter. I think I know how to make some of it's features but I've never tried them... I will try now 

True first person shooters are impossible in scratch, only a rail-shooter is possible.

I think it's possible using pseudo-3D (like Wolfenstein 3D did) instead of real 3D rendering. I'm thinking about making a 2D map, and some kind of system to stamp anything in the player's line of sight. It might be really laggy though.

I am going to give my own views on the difficulty of each type of game. I will also assume that when making a game you intend for it to run quickly enough for people to play it.

Tower defense
-Very difficult because it is very resource intensive. You have tons of enemies and towers of towers searching for enemies to fire at. The general scripts to make it are also moderately difficult to write. The only way I can see this work in scratch is if it is scaled down.

RPG
-Not very resource intensive at all, which means that a full RPG game be made in scratch. However, due to the lack of saving RPGs in scratch must be scaled down in order for it to be beaten in one sitting (unlike most RPGs) or use some sort of cumbersome saving system. This kind of game can be moderately difficult or harder to script depending on how the battle engine works.

FIghting game (like SSBB)
-This is hard to say since they are many types of fighting games and SSB is not a standard fighting game. The difficulty in making these can range from very easy to extremely difficult. With a basic fighting game you have 2 character with 2 moves that can move and punch each other to reduce HP until one dies. With a complex fighting game (such as SSBB) you must consider many variables including, hit boxes, directional influence, frame specific timing, dynamic environments, teching off surfaces, combos, and more. Clearly, a perfect SSB clone is not possible in scratch but simpler fighters are doable.

Adventure (no real freedom kind of thing, like archknight's adventure)
-One of the easiest to make in scratch. Difficultly of making these games in scratch is generally easy but in many cases with more capable languages making these is moderately difficult because of all the features (like fancy pants adventure).

Shooter
-Shooter, is a very broad term. It can range from clicking the target games to full first person shooters. Making first person shooters are not possible, but making click to shoot games or adventure type games with shooting players is possible and not very difficult.

Text based
-Varies entirely on how the game is programmed. Since this type of game is not demanding on resources full text based games can be made.

One sprite one script platformer
-See above review for platformer but add in a gimmick. This works well when only the player is moving and gets more difficult as you try to have more things moving.

Last edited by archmage (2010-02-16 12:04:00)