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This conversation originally started in Mayhem's 'God's not real' thread where Stephenwulf was trying to prove that 9/11 was faked by the government into looking like a terrorist act, because the buildings fell bizarrely. I disagree.
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1) My name is spelled "steppenwulf" not "stephenwulf"
2) They said the towers didn't fall because of the plane hitting them. Rather, the fuel melted the metal skeleton within the building. Okay, maybe it could've happened to one of the towers, but how on earth did BOTH towers fall the exact same way, while being hit at different angles, spots, and speeds. Near-impossible if you ask me and the minority who say it was a hoax.
But that's just my opinion, what do you guys think?
Btw, the only time I have ever seen large buildings fall straight down, as the towers did, is when they are fitted with carefully placed timed explosives that are set off one after another, to make the building perfectly implode on itself and fall straight down.
Someone tell me that the towers falling in that matter doesn't make you think about it...
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ScratchX wrote:
9/11-Twin Towers Tragedy
911-USA's Emergency Number.
Hmm i dunno bout you but i see something fishy here...
LOL
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steppenwulf wrote:
They said the towers didn't fall because of the plane hitting them. Rather, the fuel melted the metal skeleton within the building. Okay, maybe it could've happened to one of the towers, but how on earth did BOTH towers fall the exact same way, while being hit at different angles, spots, and speeds. Near-impossible if you ask me and the minority who say it was a hoax.
Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength — and that required exposure to much less heat. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks.
Source: Popular mechanics.com
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DavidTy wrote:
steppenwulf wrote:
They said the towers didn't fall because of the plane hitting them. Rather, the fuel melted the metal skeleton within the building. Okay, maybe it could've happened to one of the towers, but how on earth did BOTH towers fall the exact same way, while being hit at different angles, spots, and speeds. Near-impossible if you ask me and the minority who say it was a hoax.
Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength — and that required exposure to much less heat. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."
Source: Popular mechanics.com
But take this into mind, wouldn't the side of the towers that each plane hit, lose there strength first? In that event, which is more likely in my opinion, the side that the plane hit would collapse first. In any case, I just don't see how two earth-quake resistant, gigantic towers can fall the exact same way.
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The-Whiz wrote:
Yeah, and the government would kill thousands of people just to make it look like some terrorists flew into a building with a plane.
Exactly.
There are other coincidences too. Like that the font Wingdings, when you type in NYC it shows a skull and crossbones, the Jewish star, and a thumbs-up. And also in the font, if you type in Q33, one of the plane's designation code, it shows an airplane and the 3's turn into file things which look like towers. Also, if you fold the 20 dollar bill a certain way, it looks like the WTC on fire.
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...to pass the anti-terrorism law that allows the government to arrest you, interrogate you, and put you into jail with no explanations whatsoever through. And to give reasons to start 2nd Iraq War. Seriously, things are not as they seem to be.
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BWOG wrote:
The-Whiz wrote:
Yeah, and the government would kill thousands of people just to make it look like some terrorists flew into a building with a plane.
Exactly.
There are other coincidences too. Like that the font Wingdings, when you type in NYC it shows a skull and crossbones, the Jewish star, and a thumbs-up. And also in the font, if you type in Q33, one of the plane's designation code, it shows an airplane and the 3's turn into file things which look like towers. Also, if you fold the 20 dollar bill a certain way, it looks like the WTC on fire.


OOOOOH Subliminal messages.....
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The government is too paranoid......
Yay a Jewish star.
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A note too everyone: Remember that 9/11 happened while Dubya was the president. No telling what he might ave done to get sympathy and support.
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I think that it is the terrorists and that it is all Osama bin Laden's fault so we should find him and have a trial and then kill him in a humane way or not depending on if he apologizes
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bowling_maniac wrote:
I think that it is the terrorists and that it is all Osama bin Laden's fault so we should find him and have a trial and then kill him in a humane way or not depending on if he apologizes
You mean like Mussolini?
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bowling_maniac wrote:
I think that it is the terrorists and that it is all Osama bin Laden's fault so we should find him and have a trial and then kill him in a humane way or not depending on if he apologizes
Even if he was a bad person, don't blame it all on him.

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bowling_maniac wrote:
I think that it is the terrorists and that it is all Osama bin Laden's fault so we should find him and have a trial and then kill him in a humane way or not depending on if he apologizes
...says the boy/girl who doesn't know what the world's all about. No, seriously, any explanation is better than this. Humane way... It reminds me about these "humane" egg farms that cut off birds' beaks. That's nasty.
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filo5 wrote:
bowling_maniac wrote:
I think that it is the terrorists and that it is all Osama bin Laden's fault so we should find him and have a trial and then kill him in a humane way or not depending on if he apologizes
...says the boy/girl who doesn't know what the world's all about. No, seriously, any explanation is better than this. Humane way... It reminds me about these "humane" egg farms that cut off birds' beaks. That's nasty.
That's SAD. How could humans be so shockingly cruel?!

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You tell me, I sometimes wonder why are they still here - if any god/goddess existed out there, he/she/it would wipe those people out. I once saw a bunch of kids torturing a cat just for fun. I was about 5.
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filo5 wrote:
bowling_maniac wrote:
I think that it is the terrorists and that it is all Osama bin Laden's fault so we should find him and have a trial and then kill him in a humane way or not depending on if he apologizes
...says the boy/girl who doesn't know what the world's all about. No, seriously, any explanation is better than this. Humane way... It reminds me about these "humane" egg farms that cut off birds' beaks. That's nasty.
So if humane is cutting off their beaks.... Then what would be inhumane?
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Fake, a total government hide-up, makes no sense. According to the news, the suspects are being moved to a different court. According to Wikipedia and other references, there were no survivors of this attacking. What?
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littletonkslover wrote:
filo5 wrote:
bowling_maniac wrote:
I think that it is the terrorists and that it is all Osama bin Laden's fault so we should find him and have a trial and then kill him in a humane way or not depending on if he apologizes
...says the boy/girl who doesn't know what the world's all about. No, seriously, any explanation is better than this. Humane way... It reminds me about these "humane" egg farms that cut off birds' beaks. That's nasty.
That's SAD. How could humans be so shockingly cruel?!
I don't get why people are so crazy about this stuff. Clipping off their beaks makes perfect sense.
About 9/11, of course it was real. A huge jet flying into a building is obviously going to knock it down.
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martianshark wrote:
I don't get why people are so crazy about this stuff. Clipping off their beaks makes perfect sense.
You have a very bad definition of what perfect sense is
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martianshark wrote:
littletonkslover wrote:
filo5 wrote:
...says the boy/girl who doesn't know what the world's all about. No, seriously, any explanation is better than this. Humane way... It reminds me about these "humane" egg farms that cut off birds' beaks. That's nasty.That's SAD. How could humans be so shockingly cruel?!
I don't get why people are so crazy about this stuff. Clipping off their beaks makes perfect sense.
About 9/11, of course it was real. A huge jet flying into a building is obviously going to knock it down.
What do you mean? Were you there? No, I am pretty sure you weren't. How did 4 planes mysteriously get hijacked and the government never found one but say it flew into the United States and blew up. How did a plane go directly through a sky-scraper and not blow up?
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ScratchX wrote:
9/11-Twin Towers Tragedy
911-USA's Emergency Number.
Hmm i dunno bout you but i see something fishy here...
How can you say that its a government hoax? The date clearly had meaning and I'm sure the terrorists had that date for a reason. Many, many people whom I know have relatives who died in 9/11. Infact, my friend's father died. It's not a hoax and I am absolutly disgusted you would say that.
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