Scratch

littletonkslover wrote:

I think that would be one of the best improvements for Scratch, more memory. That is the biggest problem many face. Whether a AMV, a game, or anything else.

I totally agree, more memory would be awesome. I remember on my last gigantic game i cut it short a few levels becuase it kept crashing.

If I'm ever going to try and make a 3D wireframe game, I'm gonna need this. I think this is gonna be moved to suggestions in 5...4.....3.....2.....1.....

RHY3756547, stop making those advanced projects and you won't have that problem.    No, just joking. It'd be nice if the limit could be improved... but then we'd probably get the same issue as with the 10 megabyte limit for uploading Scratch projects.

Last edited by Jonathanpb (2010-01-28 01:51:20)

Um why is the memory and the usage limit thier cant it be like flash use whatever the PC has i dunno u have seen or not but scratch runs quite slow unless the processor comes from a different generations.Nearly Same speed on older processors but quite faster (actually extra faster) on an i7

I don't know if it works or that's just a placebo efect but when | change the Scratch.ini file from

[Global]
DeferUpdate=1
ShowConsole=0
DynamicConsole=0
ReduceCPUUsage=0
ReduceCPUInBackground=0
3ButtonMouse=0
1ButtonMouse=0
UseDirectSound=1
PriorityBoost=1
B3DXUsesOpenGL=1
CaseSensitiveFileMode=0
EnableAltF4Quit=0

to

[Global]
DeferUpdate=1
ShowConsole=0
DynamicConsole=0
ReduceCPUUsage=1
ReduceCPUInBackground=1
3ButtonMouse=0
1ButtonMouse=0
UseDirectSound=1
PriorityBoost=1
B3DXUsesOpenGL=1
CaseSensitiveFileMode=0
EnableAltF4Quit=0

It seems to work faster.

RHY3756547 wrote:

archmage wrote:

Scratch has much more limiting issues than memory.

Memory is a very important issue. I experience problems with it all the time - EVERY GAME I make crashes scratch...

Hmmm.... is it possible that maybe something is wrong with the installation of Scratch on your machine? Scratch shouldn't crash, even if it runs out of memory. Try reinstalling, and see if that helps.

Lightnin wrote:

RHY3756547 wrote:

archmage wrote:

Scratch has much more limiting issues than memory.

Memory is a very important issue. I experience problems with it all the time - EVERY GAME I make crashes scratch...

Hmmm.... is it possible that maybe something is wrong with the installation of Scratch on your machine? Scratch shouldn't crash, even if it runs out of memory. Try reinstalling, and see if that helps.

It happens on all computers I use to run scratch and other peoples' when they download my projects. The scripts are so long that scratch simply halts and starts some kind of infinite recursion which uses the whole of Core 1 of my CPU.

Sometimes Squeak pops up a warning before, but most of the time it just freezes.

Scratch uses 512 MB when running my projects, which I think is a bit OTT.

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/RHY3756547/794740
Download this project and scroll down on the scripts real far. When you let go it freezes.

Basically every one sprite one script game I've made, and my bomberman game.

I am using 1.4 on Windows 7 with an Intel Core i7 2.8 GHz and 4 Gig memory.

RHY3756547 wrote:

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/RHY3756547/794740
Download this project and scroll down on the scripts real far. When you let go it freezes.

Basically every one sprite one script game I've made, and my bomberman game.

I am using 1.4 on Windows 7 with an Intel Core i7 2.8 GHz and 4 Gig memory.

Wow, I showed this to one of the Scratch programmers. Awesome!

When Scratch was created, the goal was to make it have a low floor, wide walls, and a high ceiling. What's that stand for, you might ask?

a low floor - (meaning it is easy for people new to programming to quickly get started)
wide walls - (meaning that you can make many different kinds of projects with Scratch)
and a high ceiling - (meaning that it's possible to make projects that are really complex)

I think you've found the ceiling!    Now we have to figure out how to move it up a little higher.

I'm curious - if Scratch crashes every time you scroll down towards the bottom of the script, how did you code it in the first place?

Lightnin wrote:

RHY3756547 wrote:

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/RHY3756547/794740
Download this project and scroll down on the scripts real far. When you let go it freezes.

Basically every one sprite one script game I've made, and my bomberman game.

I am using 1.4 on Windows 7 with an Intel Core i7 2.8 GHz and 4 Gig memory.

Wow, I showed this to one of the Scratch programmers. Awesome!

When Scratch was created, the goal was to make it have a low floor, wide walls, and a high ceiling. What's that stand for, you might ask?

a low floor - (meaning it is easy for people new to programming to quickly get started)
wide walls - (meaning that you can make many different kinds of projects with Scratch)
and a high ceiling - (meaning that it's possible to make projects that are really complex)

I think you've found the ceiling!    Now we have to figure out how to move it up a little higher.

I'm curious - if Scratch crashes every time you scroll down towards the bottom of the script, how did you code it in the first place?

Nice metaphor 

I think, or at least to me it feels like, when you're making a project, from scratch, its generally lag free. But whenever you download a similar project, or even re-load it the next day to work on it, its more laggy. But this is probably not very true. Obviously RHY3756547 has more experience with lag than I do, so this is just from what I remember.

...and the method works. In PenScript, there's a lot going on just by if c-blocks, which are easy to edit out-of-stream. But yeah, I think we're hitting the ceiling. And hurting our heads on it.

It's be nice to boost it high anough to make games that are really complex with High quality music. Maybe 20MB? I dunno, I don't get Scratch crashed a lot, but i don't want to start.